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Although she was considered among her contemporaries to be the better poet than her husband, later Elizabeth Barrett Browning was overshadowed by his success.

(A) Although she was considered among her contemporaries to be the better poet than her husband, later Elizabeth Barrett Browning was overshadowed by his success.



(B) Although Elizabeth Barrett Brwoning was considered among her contemporaries as a better poet than her husband, she was later overshadowed by his success.


(C) Later overshadowed by the success of her husband, Elizabeth Barrett Brwoning's poetry had been considered among her contemporaries to be better than that of her husband.


(D) Although Elizabeth Barrett Browning's success was later overshadowed by that of her husband, among her contemporaries she was considered the better poet.

(E) Elizabeth Barrett Browning's poetry was considered among her contemporaries as better than her husband, but her success was later overshadowed by his.



A)A BETTER THAN IS CORRCT WORD
EG SACHIN TENDULKAR IS A BETTER BATSMAN THAN RICKY PONTING
ITS NOT LIKE
SACHIN TENDULKAR IS THE BETTER BATSMAN THAN ---- OUT

B)HOW CAN ELIZABETH OVERSHADOWED BY HIS (HUSBANDS) SUCCESS


C)HOW CAN ELIZABETH'S POETRY BE OVERSHADOWED BY HUSBAND'S SUCCESS?
OUT

D)CORRECT ANSWER CHOICE NO ERRORS


E)POETRY ILLOGICALLY COMPARED WITH HUSBAND -OUT



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A: Incorrect comparison - Elizabeth Browning is being compared to her husband's success
Elizabeth Browning's success is comparable to her husband's success
Elizabeth Browning is comparable to her husband

B: Incorrect. Same reason as A

C: Incorrect. Similar to A; Success of her husband is being compared to Elizabeth's poetry

D: Correct

E: Incorrect: Considered .... to be is the correct idiom not consider...as
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Hi all,

I chose D after "consider X Y" split.

But I have question for choice D, what is the antecedent for pronoun "she", the possesive pronoun has antecendent "Elizabeth Barrett Browning's success"

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Hi all,

I chose D after "consider X Y" split.

But I have question for choice D, what is the antecedent for pronoun "she", the possesive pronoun has antecendent "Elizabeth Barrett Browning's success"

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'She' refers to Elizabeth Browning. While the antecedent is not explicitly stated, it unambiguously refers to Elizabeth Browning. Ultimately Sentence Correction is about picking the best answer among the choices. The best answer choice is not always perfect.
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Yeah, the GMAT seems to have abandoned the rather uptight "possessive poison" rule. As long as the meaning is clear, we can use a regular pronoun to refer back to a possessive noun.
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Yeah, the GMAT seems to have abandoned the rather uptight "possessive poison" rule. As long as the meaning is clear, we can use a regular pronoun to refer back to a possessive noun.


Here is another instance when the GMAT abandoned that rule from (EP1):

Although women's wages are improving, Department of Labor statistics show that the ratio of their earnings with that of men have been roughly static since 1960.

A. with that of men have been
B. to that of men are
C. to those of men have been
D. with those of men is
E. to those of men has been

Their has no antecedent.
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zvazviri Actually, the rule never would have applied here in the first place. It was always okay to use a possessive pronoun (e.g. "their") to refer to a possessive noun.
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Hi all,

I chose D after "consider X Y" split.

But I have question for choice D, what is the antecedent for pronoun "she", the possesive pronoun has antecendent "Elizabeth Barrett Browning's success"

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Hello hellosanthosh2k2,


Yes, you are correct in saying that she in the correct answer choice does not seem to have a grammatical antecedent because this non-possessive pronoun seems to refer to the possessive noun Elizabeth Barrett Browning's.

However, I would treat this one as an atypical usage of a non-possessive pronoun. I would take this usage as an exception rather than the rule. I would still look for a non-possessive noun as a grammatical antecedent of a non-possessive pronoun.


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But doesnt choice D have a pronoun problem? there's no noun for her/she to refer to , and also the noun that it intends to refer to appears in Apostrophe and pronoun cannot refer to a noun in an apostrophe?


Hi raj44,

when ('s + .. pronoun) is used then in order to be sure of no ambiguity, Replace the pronoun with previous 's and see if the meaning is clear.
Note - This rule is applicable only when the Noun is in it's possessive form (Noun+'s) in the given sentence.

Following three sentences should clear this rule and choice "D":

example - 1:
wrong sentence - Seena's book was so successful that she decided to write a sequel.
this sentence is wrong because, the pronoun "she" needs Seena not Seena's as its referant but in our sentence Seena's is present not Seena.

example - 2:
Correct sentence - Seena's parents were happy with the success of her novel.
this sentence is correct because, the pronoun "her" needs Seena's not Seena for the correct meaning which is present in the sentence.

example-3: ABOVE RULE will not work in this sentence because possessive form of noun is not used.
correct sentence - Seena was happy with the success of her novel.
in this sentence we cannot replace her with Seena to check the meaning because Seena is not in possessive form. Here, Seena is the referant for the pronoun 'her' with no ambiguity because there is no other person mentioned in the sentence. Ambiguity would be when there are two person Seena, Elizabeth and her is used in the sentence.

In the choice "D" - Lets use the above RULE:
"Browning's success was later overshadowed by that of her husband"
"Browning's success was later overshadowed by that of Browning's husband"

This is why choice "D" has no ambiguity.

+1 if this post helps :)


Wow this is so precise , succint and awesome.
Really cleared my confusion
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raj44 wrote:
But doesnt choice D have a pronoun problem? there's no noun for her/she to refer to , and also the noun that it intends to refer to appears in Apostrophe and pronoun cannot refer to a noun in an apostrophe?


Hi raj44,

when ('s + .. pronoun) is used then in order to be sure of no ambiguity, Replace the pronoun with previous 's and see if the meaning is clear.
Note - This rule is applicable only when the Noun is in it's possessive form (Noun+'s) in the given sentence.

Following three sentences should clear this rule and choice "D":

example - 1:
wrong sentence - Seena's book was so successful that she decided to write a sequel.
this sentence is wrong because, the pronoun "she" needs Seena not Seena's as its referant but in our sentence Seena's is present not Seena.

example - 2:
Correct sentence - Seena's parents were happy with the success of her novel.
this sentence is correct because, the pronoun "her" needs Seena's not Seena for the correct meaning which is present in the sentence.

example-3: ABOVE RULE will not work in this sentence because possessive form of noun is not used.
correct sentence - Seena was happy with the success of her novel.
in this sentence we cannot replace her with Seena to check the meaning because Seena is not in possessive form. Here, Seena is the referant for the pronoun 'her' with no ambiguity because there is no other person mentioned in the sentence. Ambiguity would be when there are two person Seena, Elizabeth and her is used in the sentence.

In the choice "D" - Lets use the above RULE:
"Browning's success was later overshadowed by that of her husband"
"Browning's success was later overshadowed by that of Browning's husband"

This is why choice "D" has no ambiguity.

+1 if this post helps :)



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Question No.: SC 805
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Although she was considered among her contemporaries to be the better poet than her husband, later Elizabeth Barrett Browning was overshadowed by his success.

(A) Although she was considered among her contemporaries to be the better poet than her husband, later Elizabeth Barrett Browning was overshadowed by his success.

(B) Although Elizabeth Barrett Brwoning was considered among her contemporaries as a better poet than her husband, she was later overshadowed by his success.

(C) Later overshadowed by the success of her husband, Elizabeth Barrett Brwoning's poetry had been considered among her contemporaries to be better than that of her husband.

(D) Although Elizabeth Barrett Browning's success was later overshadowed by that of her husband, among her contemporaries she was considered the better poet.

(E) Elizabeth Barrett Browning's poetry was considered among her contemporaries as better than her husband, but her success was later overshadowed by his.


I had excluded D because of #the better poet", is it wrong?
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The Official Guide for GMAT Review 2017

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Question No.: SC 805
Page: 710

Although she was considered among her contemporaries to be the better poet than her husband, later Elizabeth Barrett Browning was overshadowed by his success.

(A) Although she was considered among her contemporaries to be the better poet than her husband, later Elizabeth Barrett Browning was overshadowed by his success.

(B) Although Elizabeth Barrett Brwoning was considered among her contemporaries as a better poet than her husband, she was later overshadowed by his success.

(C) Later overshadowed by the success of her husband, Elizabeth Barrett Brwoning's poetry had been considered among her contemporaries to be better than that of her husband.

(D) Although Elizabeth Barrett Browning's success was later overshadowed by that of her husband, among her contemporaries she was considered the better poet.

(E) Elizabeth Barrett Browning's poetry was considered among her contemporaries as better than her husband, but her success was later overshadowed by his.


A)CONSIDER TO BE:WRONG
EBB WAS OVER SHOWED BY HIS SUCCESS:WRONG COMPARISON
B)CONSIDER AS:WRONG
CONSIDER X,Y :CORRECT
SHE WAS LATER OVERSHADOWED BY HIS SUCCESS

C)CONSIDER TO BE:WRONG
POETRY BETTER THAN HER HUSBAND:I HOPE IT IS NOT THE CASE
D)SUCCESS VS THAT(SUCCESS) OF HER HUSBAND:CORRECT
HER->EBB'S:ORRECT
X WAS CONSIDERED Y:CORRECT
E)CONSIDER AS:WRONG
POETRY WA BETTER THAN HER HUSBAND:WRONG
HER SUCCESS VS HIS:CORRECT
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I had excluded D because of #the better poet", is it wrong?




Hello giuliab3,

I will be glad to help you out with this one. :-)


The expression the better poet is correct in Choice D.

The correct expressions are: She was a better poet than her husband. OR Among her contemporaries, she was the better poet.

We cannot use the better poet with the structure than xyz.


Hope this helps. :-)
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Although she was considered among her contemporaries to be the better poet than her husband, later Elizabeth Barrett Browning was overshadowed by his success.

(A) Although she was considered among her contemporaries to be the better poet than her husband, later Elizabeth Barrett Browning was overshadowed by his success.

(B) Although Elizabeth Barrett Brwoning was considered among her contemporaries as a better poet than her husband, she was later overshadowed by his success.

(C) Later overshadowed by the success of her husband, Elizabeth Barrett Brwoning's poetry had been considered among her contemporaries to be better than that of her husband.

(D) Although Elizabeth Barrett Browning's success was later overshadowed by that of her husband, among her contemporaries she was considered the better poet.

(E) Elizabeth Barrett Browning's poetry was considered among her contemporaries as better than her husband, but her success was later overshadowed by his.\

I believe in this problem, we are comparing success to success, person to person, and poetry to poetry.
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