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GMAT Score – Growing in Importance?

I have been asked many times recently whether I have noticed a trend with regard to the importance of GMAT scores in the admissions outcomes of candidates who have applied to Top-10 schools. Some notable trends have been school-specific. At schools like Columbia and Harvard, the admissions committees seemed to become pickier in 2013-2015 about acceptable scores and it seemed harder to gain admission at those two schools if candidates scored below 660. In such cases, a candidate needed to work hard to demonstrate credentials that helped compensate for the less-than-ideal GMAT score performance.

Overall, the quant portion of the GMAT score seemed to come under more scrutiny at Top-15 schools. If you have not scored above the 70th percentile in quant, you should reassess well whether to re-test, and if not, you should be prepared to offer the admissions committee other evidence that you can handle the rigors of their program.

Many candidates mistakenly underestimate the importance of the GMAT score. Try to get a great score so that it is not functioning as a weakness in your application.

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Should I take the GRE, not the GMAT?

Many candidates who take the GMAT test several times and cannot score well on the exam begin to wonder if they should switch to the GRE.

Over the past few years, increasing numbers of top business schools have accepted the GRE score instead of the GMAT score. However, it is still the case that so few candidates apply with GRE scores that admissions committees sometimes waver over whether to admit a candidate with a good GRE score, because they don’t have enough other candidates to compare the score with, and also because they don’t have years’ worth of abundant data about how candidates with certain GRE scores performed within their programs.

If you completely ace the GRE, then submitting that score will likely be fine. For example, one of my clients currently has a high-90s percentile ranking on both the verbal and quant side of the GRE and because her academic record is also strong, I believe she will be in a good position for admission to the top business schools.

If you don’t completely ace the GRE, though, your calculation about whether to submit a GRE score rather than a GMAT score can be a bit more difficult. My general advice to candidates about the GRE is that there are some cases in which the choice to take the GRE is obvious. If you simply cannot get a strong GMAT score and your score is so low that it will mean an automatic rejection (a score in the 500s, for instance), you are likely better off offering a GRE score with a high percentile instead (about 85th percentile or higher, for example).

If you are an over-represented candidate, like an Indian foreign national male engineer or a tech candidate from East Asia (foreign national status), the admissions committees may not be as receptive to a GRE score (unless you completely ace it) because they may assume you simply could not do well on the GMAT and therefore may have challenges with the quantitative side of their program. Because there are so many other highly qualified candidates to choose from of your profile, this can put your application at risk. If you are of an over-represented profile and you absolutely must apply with a GRE score that is strong but not superior, it is imperative that you present a truly outstanding, first-rate application overall in order for the admissions committee to want to be accepting of the score.

Candidates who are under-represented profiles, such as Hispanic Americans or African Americans, often have more latitude in presenting strong GRE scores in lieu of GMAT scores.

Also bear in mind that if you do present a strong but not superior GRE score and you also have a degree that does not prove you can handle a highly quantitative curriculum, you may need to provide other evidence to the committee that you have strong quant skills, such as taking an online course in a business-related subject from a reputable university and presenting the admissions committee with an A grade.

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Anyone else working on their application for R1? I'm having trouble deciding how long my essay "should" be. Seems like a lot of the freely available advice from admissions consultants is encouraging 800-1000 words, but I wrote something that I really liked that came in around 400 words. I had a friend who recently graduated from HBS look it over and they really liked it as well, but I'm still wondering whether I need to toss more stuff in to lengthen it.
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For R1 applicants, if one gets an admit, by when does the student have to make the payments and how much? Couldn't find this information on the HBS website.
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Harvard Business School’s Round 1 deadline is on September 9th – are you ready to rock those applications?

The following resources will help you navigate the windy road to an HBS admit:
1.  Harvard 2016 MBA Essay Tips – Read up on expert advice on how to approach the Harvard essay question, as well as pointers on putting together your post-interview reflections.

2.  Harvard looks for three qualities in its applicants: Habit of Leadership, Analytical Aptitude and Appetite, and Engaged Community Citizenship. Do you possess these traits? Explore these attributes here and learn how to demonstrate them in your application.

3.  A Window into Life at Harvard Business School – In this interview, Tim, a current HBS student, shares stories and thoughts on Harvard’s recruiting season, the FIELD program, and what surprised him most about HBS.

4.  Life as an HBS MBA Student – Listen to this podcast episode with guest Philip Blackett, a member of the Harvard MBA class of 2016, who tells of his successful reapplication journey, as well as details about the ins and outs of life at Harvard.

5.  Get Accepted to Harvard – View this webinar for a full hour’s worth of Harvard-specific application advice with a focus on four key principles that will help you wow the HBS adcom. **Updated for 2015-2016 applicants!

For one-on-one assistance on your HBS application, be sure to check out our MBA Application Packages – A-Z assistance on your entire HBS application, at a flat rate.





Related Resources:
• Application Timing: When Should You Submit? [Podcast]
• MBA Maze: Application Timing
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Current HBS second-year student here. I haven't posted anything for quite a while, but I want to wish all of the class of 2018 applicants good luck. The b-school admissions process can be incredibly stressful, but it's absolutely worth it. Take advantage of this community; you're all going through this crazy ordeal together.

Also, there were some comments earlier in this thread about whether or not you should apply to HBS if you don't have a perfect GPA/ GMAT/ Ivy background/ MBB experience. The answer is yes. I am constantly amazed at the diversity of my classmates. Also, FYI, I took the GMAT three times. If you don't have the score you want, then work hard and try again.
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Hi everyone,

Tried searching and didn't see an answer for this somewhat trivial question. The HBS app asks for a telephone number for your employer. What are they looking for?

Both companies I worked for are fairly large with multiple offices so it seems useless to give them the company/office's number. Is the intention here just to verify that I actually work(ed) there? I'm guessing then I should put the directly line for a current/prior manager or HR?

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks!
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Hi everyone,

Tried searching and didn't see an answer for this somewhat trivial question. The HBS app asks for a telephone number for your employer. What are they looking for?

Both companies I worked for are fairly large with multiple offices so it seems useless to give them the company/office's number. Is the intention here just to verify that I actually work(ed) there? I'm guessing then I should put the directly line for a current/prior manager or HR?

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks!

I went with the HR phone number because I assumed it was an employment verification thing.
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Is there a consensus on whether visiting HBS "matters"? I was under the impression that HBS operated under the principle that if you are accepted you will go because they are HBS and, therefore, visiting didn't really matter. However, I spoke to a friend who is a current HBS student today and they implied that visiting was important and now I'm second guessing myself. What makes this especially tough for me is that I don't have the sort of job where I can afford to really take random days off and I was really hoping to save those for any potential interviews I might have this Fall.
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Is there a consensus on whether visiting HBS "matters"? I was under the impression that HBS operated under the principle that if you are accepted you will go because they are HBS and, therefore, visiting didn't really matter. However, I spoke to a friend who is a current HBS student today and they implied that visiting was important and now I'm second guessing myself. What makes this especially tough for me is that I don't have the sort of job where I can afford to really take random days off and I was really hoping to save those for any potential interviews I might have this Fall.


But what if you don't end up getting any interview call? What will you really do then with those balance leaves?
So I would suggest that you pick any day when class visits are on, and flunk your office by calling in sick or anything, but just go and visit.

Of course, bunk your work day when you feel you have fewer things to handle on that day. Work extra hours to finish other work leading up to your "planned" sick day! :)
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Is there a consensus on whether visiting HBS "matters"? I was under the impression that HBS operated under the principle that if you are accepted you will go because they are HBS and, therefore, visiting didn't really matter. However, I spoke to a friend who is a current HBS student today and they implied that visiting was important and now I'm second guessing myself. What makes this especially tough for me is that I don't have the sort of job where I can afford to really take random days off and I was really hoping to save those for any potential interviews I might have this Fall.


But what if you don't end up getting any interview call? What will you really do then with those balance leaves?

Excellent point.
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Is there a consensus on whether visiting HBS "matters"? I was under the impression that HBS operated under the principle that if you are accepted you will go because they are HBS and, therefore, visiting didn't really matter. However, I spoke to a friend who is a current HBS student today and they implied that visiting was important and now I'm second guessing myself. What makes this especially tough for me is that I don't have the sort of job where I can afford to really take random days off and I was really hoping to save those for any potential interviews I might have this Fall.

I've heard that as well, and for what it is worth, several of the current students I have talked to said their first time on campus was when they went to interview.
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Can a 4.0 masters degree in Electrical engineering make up for a low GMAT score?
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FROM HBS Admissions Blog: Round 1
We're thinking about Round 1...

And I bet many of you are, too!

With the deadline less than a month away, we promise to keep you updated on what's going on here in Dillon House and offer our best advice on how to get into countdown mode.

I wish you could visit classes before September 9. You can't because there aren't any. Our students will arrive back on campus in late August, but class visits won't get underway until after the September 9 deadline. You're always welcome to come to campus. We've got info sessions and tours to offer. Boston is certainly a great vacation destination spot and just walking around our campus can give you a pretty good sense of what life is like here. The weather has been fantastic - day after day of bright sunshine and low humidity.

Here's the info session/tour schedule (tours are at 1:15pm and information sessions are at 2pm - you do not have to register in advance to attend):

  • Monday, August 17
  • Friday, August 21
  • Monday, August 24
  • Friday, August 28
  • Monday, August 31
  • Friday, September 4

What are we doing? Traveling. You can see from the website that we have a lot of ground to cover before settling in to read applications. While you'll soon hear us say don't wait until 11:55am on September 9 to submit, we don't begin reading applications until the deadline passes so we haven't seen any Introduce Yourself responses yet!

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Hi,

I know this is probably not the best place to put things for profile evaluation but I will just do it as I am already on this HBS section:

My profile is as follows:

1. Reapplicant from last year round 2
2. GMAT 690 (Q50 V33)/GPA of 3.9. 3.9, and 3.3 (I transferred twice since I wanted to get better education and finally graduated at one of the top 10 undergraduate business school. The GPA was low at the school that I graduate from as I was doing internship at the same time of attending classes so I had less time dedicated to studying), I took the GMAT recently to get a better score but got a similar score and the best score is from last year at 690
3. Coming from Sales/Trading at one of the top investment banks in the Wall Street
4. Showed improvement from last year's application by joining a startup as a part-time role as a one of the senior executives. Took more projects at the current work place
5. Solid extracurriculars doing sports and community service
6. Retaining recommendation letters from people that I have worked with at previous workplaces
7. Writing the essays with more well-rounded story that sound coherent with my overall profile and short/long-term career goals

I know I am not a strong applicant and things that worry me are low GMAT as applicants in the financial industry have GMAT scores 700+ and since I am a re-applicant, the adcom is probably not going to look at it seriously and even if it does look at my application, it will read it with requiring much higher standard than reading first-time applicant's profile as it expects much improvement from last year's application. What do you guys think? Can anyone give me some good advice? Thanks for your time and inputs!
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Hi,
A petty question here. My recommender has moved from the organisation. What would you suggest should be the designation and company name to be mentioned in the application for the recommender - The current or erstwhile?
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Hi ideainside !

It will be perfect to have most updated info of referee. I dont think so adcoms are much stickler about designation just a specific organization name will suffice.
The info about referee has to be updated because, he/she will frame story when she worked with you rather working with you, so this has to align.


Hope this Helps!

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Hi,
A petty question here. My recommender has moved from the organisation. What would you suggest should be the designation and company name to be mentioned in the application for the recommender - The current or erstwhile?
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