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Learn what truly sets the UC Riverside MBA apart and how it helps in your professional growth
27 Jul 2018, 10:28
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Hi there - I'm an HBS alum (just went back for my 15(!!!)-year reunion) and an admissions consultant at Stacy Blackman Consulting.
Before school starts you will have START week, which is not based on your section and therefore you'll interact with a ton of new classmates. The year-long FIELD experience also will put you in small cross-section groups that change over the course of a year. You are with your section (I was Section A... aka The A-Team) for all case-based classes during your first year. But you will of course meet a ton of other people outside of your section through events, clubs, conferences, going to speakers, friends-of-friends, and many many many social activities.
Then in your second year you take electives, so you will be with whoever is in the classes you select, across all sections.
So in short, you are going to get to know and meet many many many people outside of your section. Guaranteed.
Did I get to know all 900 people in my graduating class? No. But do I think I got to know MORE people very well than I would've in a smaller graduating-class size? Yes. My BEST friends are from my section, but I didn't feel the section experience limiting in any way. And even to this day, if I come into contact or reach out to someone in my graduating class who I didn't necessarily know back at school, we still have many mutual friends and that overall shared experience that bonds us.
Hope that helps!
Before school starts you will have START week, which is not based on your section and therefore you'll interact with a ton of new classmates. The year-long FIELD experience also will put you in small cross-section groups that change over the course of a year. You are with your section (I was Section A... aka The A-Team) for all case-based classes during your first year. But you will of course meet a ton of other people outside of your section through events, clubs, conferences, going to speakers, friends-of-friends, and many many many social activities.
Then in your second year you take electives, so you will be with whoever is in the classes you select, across all sections.
So in short, you are going to get to know and meet many many many people outside of your section. Guaranteed.
Did I get to know all 900 people in my graduating class? No. But do I think I got to know MORE people very well than I would've in a smaller graduating-class size? Yes. My BEST friends are from my section, but I didn't feel the section experience limiting in any way. And even to this day, if I come into contact or reach out to someone in my graduating class who I didn't necessarily know back at school, we still have many mutual friends and that overall shared experience that bonds us.
Hope that helps!
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28 Jul 2018, 21:55
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I want to apply for PHD program of Accounting. Is the deadline same for me?
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29 Jul 2018, 17:27
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If you're planning to apply to the joint degree program between HBS and Harvard Kennedy School of Government, remember that after you submit your application to HBS (checking the box noting your interest in the joint program) on 5 September 2018, you need to separately apply on the HKS portal as well by 3 December 2018. There's only one admissions deadline for HKS to don't miss it! The HKS application is an entirely different beast than the MBA applications so make sure you use that extra time wisely! For those considering the joint degree program, check out this advice handed down from the graduating HBS/HKS class:
Commonly known as “Jointees,” the students in the joint degree programs at Harvard Kennedy School and Harvard Business school are united in their desire to affect change in both business and in government. Their experience moving between two Harvard schools presents a unique set of opportunities and challenges, and each year the third year jointees pass on their wisdom to the classes below them. Some of the piece of advice agree, others conflict, but they are all born out of three years of lived experience.
Work on improving your influence – The “core curriculum” at HKS and the “Required Curriculum” at HBS both help you understand and analyze problems on the firm, industry, and systemic level. However, you be successful, you still need to convince others how to change, the benefits of change, and the imperative to change. Use your time outside of class to grow in this area.
Speak to the unconverted – once you have learned how to solve global challenges and have developed the tools to be convincing, make sure to break out of the echo chamber and speak to those who do not agree with you. That’s the only way to make change.
Take "fierce control" over your education – You only have three years to explore two schools in which someone could spend a lifetime. Don’t count on the distribution requirements to show you everything worth exploring. If you find yourself over committed, talk to HKS professors about not submitting assignments. After all, grades here really don’t matter.
Invest in people – People are what will make your educational experience and people are what you’ll take away from the school after you graduate. Determine who you want to stay friends with in 10 years, and spend time with them!
Don’t be a bleeding heart – The rest of HBS will expect you, as a jointee, to be a bleeding heart, always reflexively advocating for government regulation and against business enterprise. Don’t fall into that trap. As soon as you do, people will anticipate your opinions, see your views as biased, and stop listening to them. By instead trusting that others will fill those roles early in the term, you can save your credibly (and that of all jointees) to advance social arguments later on when the lines are blurrier and the stakes are higher.
(or) Be a bleeding heart! – Someone has to do it.
Be proud of your story – Own it and learn to tell it well.
Make special time for other jointees – they will be your best partners, champions, friends, and resources.
Save your ammo for the last third of class – some of your peers at HKS will villainize the private sector and some at HBS believe that government is unnecessary. Jointees know that the public and private sectors need to work together (and with the non-profit sector) to tackle the “great challenges” in the world. You usually only get to make one comment per class session, so save your airtime for the end so you can correct your peers when they say otherwise.
Pick your PAE client carefully – As a Master in Public Policy (MPP)* candidate you’ll have to complete HKS’s thesis-like Policy Analysis Exercise (PAE) in which you will work with a client to deliver a policy deliverable. Pick someone who communicates clearly, understands your limitations, and will value your work. If the work is interesting, the client relates to your post-graduation goals, and the experience broadens your personal network, that’s a plus.
Pick your PAE partner carefully – You can only use this trick to do half the work if your partner is reliable.
*Note: joint degree candidates between HKS and Tuck, Wharton, Stanford GSB, and MIT Sloan can transfer to the MPP to the Master in Public Administration degree, which does not have a PAE requirement
Be open to random talks and new experiences – there are so many of them at Harvard. Say yes to a few of them each week – especially those at other schools you wouldn’t otherwise explore.
How to succeed in the HBS/HKS Joint Degree Program
Commonly known as “Jointees,” the students in the joint degree programs at Harvard Kennedy School and Harvard Business school are united in their desire to affect change in both business and in government. Their experience moving between two Harvard schools presents a unique set of opportunities and challenges, and each year the third year jointees pass on their wisdom to the classes below them. Some of the piece of advice agree, others conflict, but they are all born out of three years of lived experience.
Work on improving your influence – The “core curriculum” at HKS and the “Required Curriculum” at HBS both help you understand and analyze problems on the firm, industry, and systemic level. However, you be successful, you still need to convince others how to change, the benefits of change, and the imperative to change. Use your time outside of class to grow in this area.
Speak to the unconverted – once you have learned how to solve global challenges and have developed the tools to be convincing, make sure to break out of the echo chamber and speak to those who do not agree with you. That’s the only way to make change.
Take "fierce control" over your education – You only have three years to explore two schools in which someone could spend a lifetime. Don’t count on the distribution requirements to show you everything worth exploring. If you find yourself over committed, talk to HKS professors about not submitting assignments. After all, grades here really don’t matter.
Invest in people – People are what will make your educational experience and people are what you’ll take away from the school after you graduate. Determine who you want to stay friends with in 10 years, and spend time with them!
Don’t be a bleeding heart – The rest of HBS will expect you, as a jointee, to be a bleeding heart, always reflexively advocating for government regulation and against business enterprise. Don’t fall into that trap. As soon as you do, people will anticipate your opinions, see your views as biased, and stop listening to them. By instead trusting that others will fill those roles early in the term, you can save your credibly (and that of all jointees) to advance social arguments later on when the lines are blurrier and the stakes are higher.
(or) Be a bleeding heart! – Someone has to do it.
Be proud of your story – Own it and learn to tell it well.
Make special time for other jointees – they will be your best partners, champions, friends, and resources.
Save your ammo for the last third of class – some of your peers at HKS will villainize the private sector and some at HBS believe that government is unnecessary. Jointees know that the public and private sectors need to work together (and with the non-profit sector) to tackle the “great challenges” in the world. You usually only get to make one comment per class session, so save your airtime for the end so you can correct your peers when they say otherwise.
Pick your PAE client carefully – As a Master in Public Policy (MPP)* candidate you’ll have to complete HKS’s thesis-like Policy Analysis Exercise (PAE) in which you will work with a client to deliver a policy deliverable. Pick someone who communicates clearly, understands your limitations, and will value your work. If the work is interesting, the client relates to your post-graduation goals, and the experience broadens your personal network, that’s a plus.
Pick your PAE partner carefully – You can only use this trick to do half the work if your partner is reliable.
*Note: joint degree candidates between HKS and Tuck, Wharton, Stanford GSB, and MIT Sloan can transfer to the MPP to the Master in Public Administration degree, which does not have a PAE requirement
Be open to random talks and new experiences – there are so many of them at Harvard. Say yes to a few of them each week – especially those at other schools you wouldn’t otherwise explore.
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