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Diets including more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red, processed meat are linked to lower colorectal cancer risk.

A. Diets including more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red, processed meat are
B. A diet includes more fruits, vegetables, and fiber, and less red and processed meat is
C. Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, fiber, less red, and processed meat are
D. Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, and fiber and less red and processed meat are
E. A diet that includes more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red and processed meat is

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This Sentence Construction problem requires you to consider the proper way to link the items in the two series that describe "diets" or "a diet." The diet being described has more of some things and less of others.

More: fruits, vegetables, and fiber

Less: red and processed meat

Choices A, C, and E each fail to properly end the "more" list with an "and" before "fiber." By saying "more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red..." the sentence applies the modifier "more" to all of those items, meaning that the final term is "more less red and process meat" which is nonsensical. Therefore A, C, and E are incorrect.

Choice B is guilty of a different error. The other choices all use the lists of more/less to describe a particular type of diet (A diet THAT includes...). But choice B omits the word "that" and in doing so makes that initial portion about "more" an independent clause. The resulting sentence then says two completely separate and unrelated things: A diet includes more of these features, and (separately) less red and processed meat is linked to lower cancer risk. This pairing of separate ideas in one sentence forms an illogical thought (who would ever write that sentence?!) so choice B is incorrect.

Choice D, which properly separates and links the two lists (A diet that includes more of these things and less of those...), is correct.
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Diets including more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red, processed meat are linked to lower colorectal cancer risk.

A. Diets including more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red, processed meat are
B. A diet includes more fruits, vegetables, and fiber, and less red and processed meat is
C. Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, fiber, less red, and processed meat are
D. Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, and fiber and less red and processed meat are
E. A diet that includes more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red and processed meat is

Dear ziyuen,

This is a great question, and I am happy to respond. :-)

Unfortunately, the topic is very serious, but that doesn't impact solving the SC question.

First all, we could have either "a diet ... is" or "diets . . . are": all five answer choices get the SVA issues correct.

Also, there's not a huge difference between "diets that include" and "diets including"--both are fine.

After the "include" verb, we have one list of items with "more" and other list with items with "less." We need an "and" for the first list, another for the second list, and yet another between the two lists. In other words:
. . . include more fruits, vegetables, and(1) fiber and(2) less red and(3) processed meat . . .
and #1 is the "and" for the first list, the "more" list
and #2 is the "and" between the "more" list and the "less" list
and #3 is the "and" for the second list, the "less" list

Only choice (D) gets all this correct.

Does all this make sense?
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ziyuen wrote:
Diets including more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red, processed meat are linked to lower colorectal cancer risk.

A. Diets including more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red, processed meat are
B. A diet includes more fruits, vegetables, and fiber, and less red and processed meat is
C. Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, fiber, less red, and processed meat are
D. Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, and fiber and less red and processed meat are
E. A diet that includes more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red and processed meat is

Dear ziyuen,

This is a great question, and I am happy to respond. :-)

Unfortunately, the topic is very serious, but that doesn't impact solving the SC question.

First all, we could have either "a diet ... is" or "diets . . . are": all five answer choices get the SVA issues correct.

Also, there's not a huge difference between "diets that include" and "diets including"--both are fine.

After the "include" verb, we have one list of items with "more" and other list with items with "less." We need an "and" for the first list, another for the second list, and yet another between the two lists. In other words:
. . . include more fruits, vegetables, and(1) fiber and(2) less red and(3) processed meat . . .
and #1 is the "and" for the first list, the "more" list
and #2 is the "and" between the "more" list and the "less" list
and #3 is the "and" for the second list, the "less" list

Only choice (D) gets all this correct.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)


Hi Mike ... thanks for your help on this question ...
so as per your explanation "," is wrong in option B.
or is it because includes is in B is acting as verb.

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Hi,
Could anyone explain why is option E not a correct choice?

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Hi,
Could anyone explain why is option E not a correct choice?


As mikemcgarry has already said, we have 2 lists. And we have to put "and" in the end of each of them (that is the rule). And to put "and" between them.
In option E we do not have "and" in the end of the first list.

2jokschmer: Option D is the first one out :) because it has 2 predicates verbs: "includes" and "is linked" - it can't be.

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Hi Mike ... thanks for your help on this question ...
so as per your explanation "," is wrong in option B.
or is it because includes is in B is acting as verb.

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Dear jokschmer,

I'm happy to respond. Choice (B) train wreck incorrect. The grammar in (B) is purely atrocious.

Let's get rid of the long list to see the relationship of the verb:
A diet includes more fruits is linked to lower colorectal cancer risk.
There are two full verbs, each of which seems to want to use "a diet" as the subject. If these two are meant to be in parallel, they would need a conjunction between them, such as "and," but putting them in parallel would change the meaning of the sentence. It's unclear what their relationship should be.

Does this make sense?
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mikemcgarry wrote:
ziyuen wrote:
Diets including more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red, processed meat are linked to lower colorectal cancer risk.

A. Diets including more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red, processed meat are
B. A diet includes more fruits, vegetables, and fiber, and less red and processed meat is
C. Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, fiber, less red, and processed meat are
D. Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, and fiber and less red and processed meat are
E. A diet that includes more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red and processed meat is

Dear ziyuen,

This is a great question, and I am happy to respond. :-)

Unfortunately, the topic is very serious, but that doesn't impact solving the SC question.

First all, we could have either "a diet ... is" or "diets . . . are": all five answer choices get the SVA issues correct.

Also, there's not a huge difference between "diets that include" and "diets including"--both are fine.

After the "include" verb, we have one list of items with "more" and other list with items with "less." We need an "and" for the first list, another for the second list, and yet another between the two lists. In other words:
. . . include more fruits, vegetables, and(1) fiber and(2) less red and(3) processed meat . . .
and #1 is the "and" for the first list, the "more" list
and #2 is the "and" between the "more" list and the "less" list
and #3 is the "and" for the second list, the "less" list

Only choice (D) gets all this correct.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)


Dear Mike,

I have quick question about choice D. Should not be a 'comma' to separate the 2 lists as follows:

Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, and fiber[b], and less red and processed meat are

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mikemcgarry wrote:
Diets including more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red, processed meat are linked to lower colorectal cancer risk.

A. Diets including more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red, processed meat are
B. A diet includes more fruits, vegetables, and fiber, and less red and processed meat is
C. Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, fiber, less red, and processed meat are
D. Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, and fiber and less red and processed meat are
E. A diet that includes more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red and processed meat is

Dear Mike,

I have quick question about choice D. Should not be a 'comma' to separate the 2 lists as follows:

Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, and fiber[b], and less red and processed meat are

Thanks

Dear Mo2men,

I'm happy to respond. :-) How are you, my friend?

The short answer is no. No comma needed. This is tricky to understand.

You see, what we have here are nested parallelism, that is, parallelism within parallelism.

Here's the outer structure:
Diets that include more X and less Y are . . .
That's the outer parallelism, and clearly, with just two elements, we don't need a comma separating them.

Now, each element dropped into slots X and Y contain an element of parallelism.
X = fruits, vegetables, and fiber ==> contains correct parallelism
Y = red and processed meat ==> contains correct parallelism

Now, we will drop these expressions for X & Y, exactly as they are, with their correct parallelism, into the outer structure, which is also correct, and other than straight substitution, we won't change a thing:
Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, and fiber and less red and processed meat are . . .
That's (D).

Does this make sense?

Take care, my friend. Have a wonderful weekend.
Mike :-)
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mikemcgarry wrote:
ziyuen wrote:
Diets including more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red, processed meat are linked to lower colorectal cancer risk.

A. Diets including more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red, processed meat are
B. A diet includes more fruits, vegetables, and fiber, and less red and processed meat is
C. Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, fiber, less red, and processed meat are
D. Diets that include more fruits, vegetables, and fiber and less red and processed meat are
E. A diet that includes more fruits, vegetables, fiber, and less red and processed meat is

Dear ziyuen,

This is a great question, and I am happy to respond. :-)

Unfortunately, the topic is very serious, but that doesn't impact solving the SC question.

First all, we could have either "a diet ... is" or "diets . . . are": all five answer choices get the SVA issues correct.

Also, there's not a huge difference between "diets that include" and "diets including"--both are fine.

After the "include" verb, we have one list of items with "more" and other list with items with "less." We need an "and" for the first list, another for the second list, and yet another between the two lists. In other words:
. . . include more fruits, vegetables, and(1) fiber and(2) less red and(3) processed meat . . .
and #1 is the "and" for the first list, the "more" list
and #2 is the "and" between the "more" list and the "less" list
and #3 is the "and" for the second list, the "less" list

Only choice (D) gets all this correct.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)


Brill explanation Mike-

Basically we need another and in order to separate the implication of "more." For example the difference between

This house has less proximity and less neighboring houses.

This house has less proximity and fewer neighboring houses.

What you're basically saying is that we need another otherwise we are implying

"...[more] less red meat" - clearly illogical

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