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i used the mgmat guides and did a lot of practice questions. in the practice questions, really try and understand why a answer is right, but also why each of the other answers are 100% wrong.

for RC, get a good sense of passage structure and main idea. this will help increase speed and comprehension.

for SC, understand idioms, i was able to eliminate many answers just based on incorrect idioms. also look at the splits, try to notice why are they are different.

feel free to ask me any questions.
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Sorry to hear that the verbal is giving you a rough time, rhtksingh! I wish that I could offer a magic bullet, but sometimes it just takes a lot of time, patience, and good practice materials to improve on verbal.

The key in a situation like yours is to continue to work on the fundamentals of verbal: your reading precision and approach to CR/RC, and your understanding of the rules and logic of SC. Doing tons of extra CATs won't necessarily help, unfortunately, if you need to improve your underlying skills. And especially for verbal, you'll ideally want to rely on official questions as much as you can.

For resources, you might want to check this link out as a starting point: https://gmatclub.com/forum/ultimate-ver ... 33279.html. You may or may not find the Wednesday chats useful at this stage, but we're always happy to field whatever questions you have if you can join us for those.

See you in the verbal forum, hopefully! :-D
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i used the mgmat guides and did a lot of practice questions. in the practice questions, really try and understand why a answer is right, but also why each of the other answers are 100% wrong.

for RC, get a good sense of passage structure and main idea. this will help increase speed and comprehension.

for SC, understand idioms, i was able to eliminate many answers just based on incorrect idioms. also look at the splits, try to notice why are they are different.

feel free to ask me any questions.

Thank you for your reply lebron23goat.

I have gone through MGMAT SC 6th edition. It is really a great book. After completing SC from Egmat and MGMAT SC book , i have seen my accuracy is almost 100% on 500 level question, 60 percent on 600 level question and 20 percent on 700 level question.

Idioms are really the key as you have mention. I have memorized some of the most used idiom on gmat and it helped me to evaluate the answers in SC.

I am going to write my MGMAT Test 2 on this weekend. Hoping for some improvement in verbal section.

Thank you.


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Sorry to hear that the verbal is giving you a rough time, rhtksingh! I wish that I could offer a magic bullet, but sometimes it just takes a lot of time, patience, and good practice materials to improve on verbal.

The key in a situation like yours is to continue to work on the fundamentals of verbal: your reading precision and approach to CR/RC, and your understanding of the rules and logic of SC. Doing tons of extra CATs won't necessarily help, unfortunately, if you need to improve your underlying skills. And especially for verbal, you'll ideally want to rely on official questions as much as you can.

For resources, you might want to check this link out as a starting point: https://gmatclub.com/forum/ultimate-ver ... 33279.html. You may or may not find the Wednesday chats useful at this stage, but we're always happy to field whatever questions you have if you can join us for those.

See you in the verbal forum, hopefully! :-D

Thank you GMATNinja for replying

I have exhausted my whole material. I have done egmat SC thrice . MGMAT SC 6th edition 2 times. Honestly i have not spent much time on RC and CR.Almost 70 percent time of my prepation was dedicated to SC.

In last GMATClub verbal test .

V 22= 23 correct, 18 incorrect.

SC= 9 Correct /6 Wrong
CR = 8Corrct / 5 wrong
RC = 5 Correct / 8 Wrong.

Accuracy : 500 level = 80 %, 600 level= 65%, 700 level = 17 percent.

I know i am not good at 700 level question but as per overall performance i do not understand how to proceed further. I am completely devastated.


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I wouldn't overanalyze your verbal results from ANY non-official test. If your SC results are poor when you work from the OG or the GMATPrep tests, then that's an indication of a real problem, but I'm not sure that your GMAT Club test results are, by themselves, all that alarming. Like all other non-official verbal tests, they're far from perfect. The GMAT spends $1500-$3000 on every official question, and even the very best test-prep companies will never be able to compete with that.

But it's definitely a problem if you aren't working on CR and RC! That's a huge chunk of your verbal score, and on an adaptive test, you can't possibly compensate with SC alone if you have major weaknesses on CR and RC. In theory, you could get all of your SC questions right, but if you're missing easy CR and RC questions, then you'll start seeing easier and easier questions -- and your score will be pretty darned low.

I'm not saying that SC isn't a problem. You might still have plenty of room to improve on SC! Actually, there's always more to learn about SC -- heck, I'm still learning bits and pieces, even after (gulp) more than a decade of working with the GMAT. So keep at it! But take a good, hard look at the CR and RC results from your official tests. If those percentiles on CR and RC look really low on your GMATPrep exams, then that's the biggest thing that will need attention.
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Hi rhtksingh,

Verbal Scaled Scores in the low-20s mean that you're missing significant points in all 3 major Verbal categories (SC, RC and CR). These 'misses' are likely due to a combination of factors, but almost certainly come down to you picking an answer that "sounds good" instead of working through the proper 'steps' and knowing that you're picking the correct answer. Thus, you really need to focus on learning/practicing the proper Verbal Tactics (along with some emphasis on making sure that you know the proper grammar/idiom rules). You still have enough time to improve though, but you're going to need to be efficient with your studies.

1) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

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Hi rhtksingh,

Verbal Scaled Scores in the low-20s mean that you're missing significant points in all 3 major Verbal categories (SC, RC and CR). These 'misses' are likely due to a combination of factors, but almost certainly come down to you picking an answer that "sounds good" instead of working through the proper 'steps' and knowing that you're picking the correct answer. Thus, you really need to focus on learning/practicing the proper Verbal Tactics (along with some emphasis on making sure that you know the proper grammar/idiom rules). You still have enough time to improve though, but you're going to need to be efficient with your studies.

1) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

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Hi EMPOWERgmatRichC and GMATNinja .

Today, I took another diagnostic test of MGMAT and scored 600.

MGMAT CAT 1: Q42 , V27 = 570
MGMAT CAT 2: Q44, V28 = 600.

I am bit haapy that i have improved in verbal from 22 to 28 in last 15 days.

Please feel free to advice or comment.


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i used the mgmat guides and did a lot of practice questions. in the practice questions, really try and understand why a answer is right, but also why each of the other answers are 100% wrong.

for RC, get a good sense of passage structure and main idea. this will help increase speed and comprehension.

for SC, understand idioms, i was able to eliminate many answers just based on incorrect idioms. also look at the splits, try to notice why are they are different.

feel free to ask me any questions.

Could you please recommend a good source for the idioms? It would really be helpful. I looked into the Manhattan SC guide for the idioms, but that is too much to be memorized. Also, Veritas recommends not to memorize idioms - what to do? I am puzzled. Please guide.


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