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Hi , can someone please explain 74th question.

Why is the answer E , why not B?
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The question is "It can be inferred that the author of the passage believes which of the following about the study of Alessandra Strozzi done by the historian mentioned in the second paragraph?"

Relevant info from passage

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This historian assumes that Alessandra had goals and interests different from those of her sons, yet much of the historian’s own research reveals that Alessandra acted primarily as a champion of her sons’ interests, taking their goals as her own. Thus Alessandra conforms more closely to the anthropologist’s notion that personal motivation is embedded in a social context.

Take look at the last line "Thus Alessandra conforms more closely to the anthropologist’s notion" which implies Alessandra's actions doesn't align with most of the historian's research and hence option E.

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I don't see how option B can be inferred. Why do you think it is option B ?
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Hi , can someone please explain 74th question.

Why is the answer E , why not B?
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I am not an expert but will try to help you on this.


Read these lines.

"a historian who specializes in European women of the Renaissance attributes individual intention and authorship of actions to her subject. This historian assumes that Alessandra had goals and interests different from those of her sons, yet much of the historian’s own research reveals that Alessandra acted primarily as a champion of her sons’ interests, taking their goals as her own."



(B) In order to bolster her thesis, the historian adopted the anthropological perspective on personhood.

Read this line:-
"a historian who specializes in European women of the Renaissance attributes individual intention and authorship of actions to her subject"

It is nowhere mentioned that the historian adopted the anthropological perspective on personhood. She was trying to use the traditional measure (attributes individual intention and authorship of actions to her subject).

"yet much of the historian’s own research reveals that Alessandra acted primarily as a champion of her sons’ interests, taking their goals as her own"

This line says she ended up doing research on the topic which actually does not supports individuality theory.


(E) The interpretation of Alessandra's actions that the historian puts forward is not supported by much of the historian's research.

This is Bang on as per my explanation.
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75. The passage suggests that the historian mentioned in the second paragraph would be most likely to agree with which of the following assertions regarding Alessandra Strozzi?

In the above question, why is the answer D (Alessandra is an example of a Renaissance woman who expressed her individuality through independent action)?
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75. The passage suggests that the historian mentioned in the second paragraph would be most likely to agree with which of the following assertions regarding Alessandra Strozzi?

In the above question, why is the answer D (Alessandra is an example of a Renaissance woman who expressed her individuality through independent action)?
Such questions must be solved by POE only. I found D very easily so did not explained. Let me try to help you, while Charles Sir can back me up :P

(A) Alessandra was able to act more independently than most women of her time because she was a widow. ------ Such comparison is not given in Text. We dnt know much about other women of this time. also she was widow, this part is completly out of context.
(B) Alessandra was aware that her personal motivation was embedded in a social context. ------ her personal motivation is more on lines of her sons' motivation. Social context has a very broad meaning in this sense.
(C) Alessandra had goals and interests similar to those of many other widows in her society. ------ again out of context comparison. we dnt know about goals of other widows.
(E) Alessandra was exceptional because she was able to effect changes in the social constraints placed upon women in her society. ------ so basically she was exceptional cause she had social constraints. well most of the women had those type of constraints in this era. this one is very broad.

(D) Alessandra is an example of a Renaissance woman who expressed her individuality through independent action. ---- I could not eliminate this one straight. so i kept it. this answer is not extreme. yes she does expressed her individuality. P2 is all about that. those actions were individual ? yes they were. inspired by her sons'.
usually in such cases, breaking the sentence in adjectives make it more clear. Keep sentence as easy as possible.

Hope it will be helpful for you. Do let me know in case of any doubts.
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75. The passage suggests that the historian mentioned in the second paragraph would be most likely to agree with which of the following assertions regarding Alessandra Strozzi?

In the above question, why is the answer D (Alessandra is an example of a Renaissance woman who expressed her individuality through independent action)?
Such questions must be solved by POE only. I found D very easily so did not explained. Let me try to help you, while Charles Sir can back me up :P

(A) Alessandra was able to act more independently than most women of her time because she was a widow. ------ Such comparison is not given in Text. We dnt know much about other women of this time. also she was widow, this part is completly out of context.
(B) Alessandra was aware that her personal motivation was embedded in a social context. ------ her personal motivation is more on lines of her sons' motivation. Social context has a very broad meaning in this sense.
(C) Alessandra had goals and interests similar to those of many other widows in her society. ------ again out of context comparison. we dnt know about goals of other widows.
(E) Alessandra was exceptional because she was able to effect changes in the social constraints placed upon women in her society. ------ so basically she was exceptional cause she had social constraints. well most of the women had those type of constraints in this era. this one is very broad.

(D) Alessandra is an example of a Renaissance woman who expressed her individuality through independent action. ---- I could not eliminate this one straight. so i kept it. this answer is not extreme. yes she does expressed her individuality. P2 is all about that. those actions were individual ? yes they were. inspired by her sons'.
usually in such cases, breaking the sentence in adjectives make it more clear. Keep sentence as easy as possible.

Hope it will be helpful for you. Do let me know in case of any doubts.

Thanks, I too eliminated A,B, C and E easily. But I was not convinced with D either. Because I didn't find anywhere in the passage that mentioned her actions were independent or she expressed her individuality.
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5/5 in 9:47 Passage was not hard but questions required a good deal of searching and careful scrutiny. Let me know if you have any questions and I will gladly share my approach to each question.

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5/5 in 9:47 Passage was not hard but questions required a good deal of searching and careful scrutiny. Let me know if you have any questions and I will gladly share my approach to each question.

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Could you please help me with Q73 ?

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Could you please help me with Q73 ?

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73. The passage suggests that the historians referred to in line 1 make which of the following assumptions about Renaissance Europe?

(A) That anthropologists overestimate the importance of the individual in Renaissance European society
Passage does not support this. Historians did not assume that anthropologist overestimate the importance of the individual in Renaissance European society. Only author discussed the contentions of anthropologists.

(B) That in Renaissance Europe, women were typically allowed to express their individuality
No support from the passage. It is too much to assume as per historians point of view that women in Renaissance Europe were typically allowed to express their individuality. These historians were trying to measure the degree of freedom or suppression of Renaissance women.

(C) That European women of the Renaissance had the possibility of acting independently of the social context in which they lived
Historians who study European women of the Renaissance try to measure “independence,” “options,” and other indicators of the degree to which the expression of women’s individuality was either permitted or suppressed.
This text supports the answer choice that European women of the Renaissance had the possibility of acting independently.

(D) That studying an individual such as Alessandra is the best way to draw general conclusions about the lives of women in Renaissance Europe
These historians are different from the historian who studied Alessandra.

(E) That people in Renaissance Europe had greater personal autonomy than people do currently
Irrelevant : No such comparison made in any part of the passage



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How much time should one allocate for a passage like this on the real test, taking into consideration this short-passage has 5 questions?
I took 9 minutes....and usually finishing a short-passage in 5 minutes is considered optimal.

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Hi AkshdeepS,

How much time should one allocate for a passage like this on the real test, taking into consideration this short-passage has 5 questions?
I took 9 minutes....and usually finishing a short-passage in 5 minutes is considered optimal.

Dablu

Hi,

How many questions did you get correct is more important than how much time you took for the passage to solve, if you are in the initial stages of your prep. Timing comes with practice.

Usually, for short and medium passages, you should take 6 minutes, and for larger ones 8 minutes.
This is just an ideal time, and you can take +/-2 minutes according to the difficulty of the passage.
Your timing for 5 questions is good enough as this is a medium length passage.

The thing you must keep in mind is not get stick to only one question for too long.

All the best.
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5/5 in 9:47 Passage was not hard but questions required a good deal of searching and careful scrutiny. Let me know if you have any questions and I will gladly share my approach to each question.

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Could you please help me with Q73 ?

Thanks in Advance...!!

GMATNinja Can you help me with Q73? I am stuck between (B) & (C)
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Can you explain question 74?


And ques 75 can't we say that historian conform to the view of anthropologist(yet much of the historian's own research reveals that Alessandra acted primarily as a champion of her sons' interests, taking their goals as her own. Thus Alessandra conforms more closely to the anthropologist's notion that personal motivation is embedded in a social context)
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Can you explain question 74?


And ques 75 can't we say that historian conform to the view of anthropologist(yet much of the historian's own research reveals that Alessandra acted primarily as a champion of her sons' interests, taking their goals as her own. Thus Alessandra conforms more closely to the anthropologist's notion that personal motivation is embedded in a social context)


The passage gives the beliefs of multiple people. For question 74 and 75, we have 4 people of interest -

1. Anthropologist - who believes that person’s identity is not intrinsically unique and self-contained but instead is defined within a complex web of s social relationships

2. Historian - who believes European women of the Renaissance had individual intention and authorship of actions (their goals were different from their family's)

3. Alessandra Strozzi - a 15th century widow who was studied by the historian. We have no idea what her belief were.

4. Author


74. It can be inferred that the author of the passage believes which of the following about the study of Alessandra Strozzi done by the historian mentioned in the second paragraph?

(A) Alessandra was atypical of her time and was therefore an inappropriate choice for the subject of the historian's research.
(B) In order to bolster her thesis, the historian adopted the anthropological perspective on personhood.
(C) The historian argues that the boundaries of the conceptual self were not always firm and closed in Renaissance Europe.
(D) In her study, the historian reverts to a traditional approach that is out of step with the work of other historians of Renaissance Europe.
(E) The interpretation of Alessandra's actions that the historian puts forward is not supported by much of the historian's research.

Here we are questioning the author's beliefs. Look at what he writes:
This historian assumes that Alessandra had goals and interests different from those of her sons, yet much of the historian’s own research reveals that Alessandra acted primarily as a champion of her sons’ interests, taking their goals as her own. Thus Alessandra conforms more closely to the anthropologist’s notion that personal motivation is embedded in a social context

The author is saying that much of historian's work actually supports the anthropologist's view, not the historian's own view.

Hence (E) is correct.
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Can you explain question 74?


And ques 75 can't we say that historian conform to the view of anthropologist(yet much of the historian's own research reveals that Alessandra acted primarily as a champion of her sons' interests, taking their goals as her own. Thus Alessandra conforms more closely to the anthropologist's notion that personal motivation is embedded in a social context)


75. The passage suggests that the historian mentioned in the second paragraph would be most likely to agree with which of the following assertions regarding Alessandra Strozzi?

(A) Alessandra was able to act more independently than most women of her time because she was a widow.
(B) Alessandra was aware that her personal motivation was embedded in a social context.
(C) Alessandra had goals and interests similar to those of many other widows in her society.
(D) Alessandra is an example of a Renaissance woman who expressed her individuality through independent action.
(E) Alessandra was exceptional because she was able to effect changes in the social constraints placed upon women in her society.

Note what the historian's views are:
a historian who specializes in European women of the Renaissance attributes individual intention and authorship of actions to her subject. This historian assumes that Alessandra had goals and interests different from those of her sons
This view is different the anthropologist's view.

The historian thinks that the women had their own goals and interests different from those of their families.
So only option (D) is supported by the passage.

The passage does not suggest that Alessandra was exceptional or had more freedom in any way because of her circumstances.
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1-4 correct, 5th wrong.
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5/5 in 9:47 Passage was not hard but questions required a good deal of searching and careful scrutiny. Let me know if you have any questions and I will gladly share my approach to each question.

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Could you please help me with Q73 ?

Thanks in Advance...!!

GMATNinja Can you help me with Q73? I am stuck between (B) & (C)
Before we consider question 73, take a look at the relevant portion of the passage:

    Influenced by Western individualism, these historians define peculiar form of personhood: an innately bounded unit, autonomous and standing apart from both nature and society. An anthropologist, however, would contend that a person can be conceived in ways other than as an “individual.” In many societies a person’s identity is not intrinsically unique and self-contained but instead is defined within a complex web of social relationships.

So, the author notes that historians always study the expression of Renaissance women’s individuality within the context of a particular definition of personhood. That is to say, the historians assume Renaissance women’s identities are distinct from nature and society. But he/she also introduces alternative views that suggest other factors could be at play. For example, certain anthropologists contend that an individual’s identity may be influenced by social relationships.

With that in mind, the question asks us to identify an assumption that the author suggests the historians make about Renaissance Europe. Here’s (B):

Quote:
(B) That in Renaissance Europe, women were typically allowed to express their individuality
In the first sentence of the passage, the author states that the relevant historians try to measure “indicators of the degree to which the expression of women’s individuality was either permitted or suppressed.” If the historians are studying the degree to which women were able to express their individuality, then they DO NOT assume that women were allowed to express their individuality. In fact, it suggests not that the historians assume (B), but that the truth of (B) is exactly what the historians are trying to determine. With that, we eliminate (B).

And here’s (C):

Quote:
(C) That European women of the Renaissance had the possibility of acting independently of the social context in which they lived
In the portion of the passage we’ve already considered, the author indicates that the historians assume a person must be conceived as “an innately bounded unit, autonomous and standing apart from both nature and society.” In other words, the historians believe people are individual and autonomous units, and they then study the extent to which women were permitted to express their individuality. So, the historians, unlike the anthropologists mentioned, must assume it is POSSIBLE for women to act independently and that society either allows or suppresses that possibility. So, (C) is the best choice for question 73.

I hope that helps!
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Can you explain question 74?


And ques 75 can't we say that historian conform to the view of anthropologist(yet much of the historian's own research reveals that Alessandra acted primarily as a champion of her sons' interests, taking their goals as her own. Thus Alessandra conforms more closely to the anthropologist's notion that personal motivation is embedded in a social context)


The passage gives the beliefs of multiple people. For question 74 and 75, we have 4 people of interest -

1. Anthropologist - who believes that person’s identity is not intrinsically unique and self-contained but instead is defined within a complex web of s social relationships

2. Historian - who believes European women of the Renaissance had individual intention and authorship of actions (their goals were different from their family's)

3. Alessandra Strozzi - a 15th century widow who was studied by the historian. We have no idea what her belief were.

4. Author


74. It can be inferred that the author of the passage believes which of the following about the study of Alessandra Strozzi done by the historian mentioned in the second paragraph?

(A) Alessandra was atypical of her time and was therefore an inappropriate choice for the subject of the historian's research.
(B) In order to bolster her thesis, the historian adopted the anthropological perspective on personhood.
(C) The historian argues that the boundaries of the conceptual self were not always firm and closed in Renaissance Europe.
(D) In her study, the historian reverts to a traditional approach that is out of step with the work of other historians of Renaissance Europe.
(E) The interpretation of Alessandra's actions that the historian puts forward is not supported by much of the historian's research.

Here we are questioning the author's beliefs. Look at what he writes:
This historian assumes that Alessandra had goals and interests different from those of her sons, yet much of the historian’s own research reveals that Alessandra acted primarily as a champion of her sons’ interests, taking their goals as her own. Thus Alessandra conforms more closely to the anthropologist’s notion that personal motivation is embedded in a social context

The author is saying that much of historian's work actually supports the anthropologist's view, not the historian's own view.

Hence (E) is correct.

"This historian assumes that Alessandra had goals and interests different from those of her sons, yet much of the historian’s own research reveals that Alessandra acted primarily as a champion of her sons’ interests, taking their goals as her own."

Here it is told that at first historian assumes that alessandra had different goals but the historian after her own research came to know that alessandra acted on her son's interest.
So my doubt is
Is option C possible as historian also came to know that alessandra had acted as her conceptual self was not firm and closed ?

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