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I just took my second of the two GMAT Official Prep practice CATs, and if it is accurate, I'm very happy with my score. Not to say I'm going to stop studying, but that I'm on the right track.
However, I'm wondering if the practice exams have any real relation score-wise with what I should expect on the GMAT itself. Does anyone know?

Thanks!
They are excellent in terms of the algorithm and in terms of question quality. They can't, however, simulate exam pressure (no practice test can).
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Welcome to GMAT Club bcl

Lst week one user got a 760 on the Practice test only to get a 660 on the real GMAT and someone else had a somewhat of an opposite experience. I think it is fair to say they are the best estimation tool that works very well for about 80% of the test-takers. There are cases when it clearly does not or when results are skewed/inflated due to users having seen the questions before (I believe that even 1 question can skew the results on a practice test, despite GMAC saying otherwise many years ago during a cheating scandal). Anyway, read this post: https://gmatclub.com/forum/760-official ... 01757.html

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Hi all,
I just took my second of the two GMAT Official Prep practice CATs, and if it is accurate, I'm very happy with my score. Not to say I'm going to stop studying, but that I'm on the right track.
However, I'm wondering if the practice exams have any real relation score-wise with what I should expect on the GMAT itself. Does anyone know?

Thanks!

Hi BCl,

I totally agree that official CATs are the real predictors but just in case if you have seen those questions before then the result is not the best indicator of your performance.

All the best for your prep.
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bb oof. My 2nd CAT was also 760 :o - definitely will try to avoid that. I'm hoping that since my two scores two weeks apart are only 20 points apart, instead of 80, my scores are slightly more indicative. I'll be content (but not thrilled) if I get 20 points fewer than my first exam score, which that poster did.

Time to get back to the inequalities made easy guide!
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Hi EMPOWERgmatRichC, thanks for the reply!

I tried to make this CAT as realistic as possible. It was my first time taking this one, I did it all in one sitting (except for the two allotted 8-minute breaks), etc. I did Quant, Verbal, IR, AWA, which I think is the best format for me, and which I plan on doing during test day. I did take it at home but I have a small desk that's probably pretty similar to a testing center, and I took it in the late morning instead of early afternoon like my real test would be - nothing that I would consider confounding though. No phone, no Google, no music, nothing.

Study duration: 3 weeks total, 2 weeks in. 15-20 hrs/week. Using primarily Kaplan 2017/2018 (couldn't get 2019 from the library) and lots of gmatclub problem sets (the ones around DS and combinatorics have made a pretty big difference, though it doesn't yet show in the score).

First CAT (two weeks ago; 0 days study - also, not realistic, I took a long break between the Q and V sections):
Q: 49, V: 42, IR: 7

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Q: 49, V: 46, IR: 8

I think I can get a Q50/V46. I have one week until the test and I'm planning on working on inequality and abs. value quant problems (I just need to be much faster) and sentence correction problems. I've already made big improvements around sentence correction as you evidenced by the verbal score.

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Hi bcl.

The official practice tests are fairly accurate predictors of performance on the actual GMAT. At the same time, there are some factors to be aware of.

One is that many practice questions provided by test prep companies are based on questions that appear in the GMAT Prep practice tests. So, sometimes people's official practice test scores are inflated, because the people have picked up on patterns in the practice questions they have seen and then answered the questions on practice tests by using those patterns rather than via using skills and methods that would be effective in answering any questions.

This issue comes up more in verbal, with many people scoring significantly lower in verbal on the actual test than they have on practice tests. For instance, a person who has been scoring V44 on practice tests may be surprised to find that he or she scores V37 on the actual GMAT.

So, to hit your score goal, you have to be sure to learn to use foundational, logical methods, rather than application of patterns, for answering verbal questions, so that, if you see verbal questions that are somewhat different from the ones you have seen in practice, you will be ready to handle them.

Another thing to be aware of, one that is related to the above, is that GMAT verbal questions have been evolving over the years, probably partly in response to the verbal study materials that are available. So, you have to be ready to handle new twists in verbal. For instance, while, in many practice Critical Reasoning questions, the conclusions are found at the ends of arguments, in newer questions, the conclusions to arguments may be buried somewhere in the middle of passages. In Sentence Correction questions, the writers put patterns that everyone knows to look for in incorrect choices, making the incorrect choices seem to be correct. So, to score as well in verbal as you have been on practice tests, you have to be ready for some new twists.
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Thanks for your reply Marty, as well as for the information particularly around the Verbal section. I'm not particularly worried about CR, and am much more concerned about SC, so I am hoping these won't affect me too much. I'll keep an eye out though!
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Another thing to be aware of, one that is related to the above, is that GMAT verbal questions have been evolving over the years, probably partly in response to the verbal study materials that are available. So, you have to be ready to handle new twists in verbal. For instance, while, in many practice Critical Reasoning questions, the conclusions are found at the ends of arguments, in newer questions, the conclusions to arguments may be buried somewhere in the middle of passages. In Sentence Correction questions, the writers put patterns that everyone knows to look for in incorrect choices, making the incorrect choices seem to be correct. So, to score as well in verbal as you have been on practice tests, you have to be ready for some new twists.

Really good insight!  
The verbal questions, especially SC, have changed a lot in the last couple of years. 
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I just took my second of the two GMAT Official Prep practice CATs, and if it is accurate, I'm very happy with my score. Not to say I'm going to stop studying, but that I'm on the right track.
However, I'm wondering if the practice exams have any real relation score-wise with what I should expect on the GMAT itself. Does anyone know?

Thanks!
Not very, but they do have the same algorithm. The pool of questions makes all the difference
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Hi bcl,

Since you're so close to Test Day, there isn't much time to make any big changes to how you handle the Exam. Assuming that this recent CAT is an accurate reflection of your current skills, then you appear to be in position to hit your Score Goal. If you've truly been studying for just 2 weeks, then you're likely a really strong critical-thinker overall - which is great. Many Test Takers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent study time before they hit their 'peak' scores, so if you can score at this level in such a short period of time, then that is impressive.

In these last few days, while you might be tempted to do a lot of studying, you should ultimately limit your studies to general practice and light review (NO CATs and NO 'cramming') - you would be better served by getting some extra rest so that you can go into Test Day calm, clear-headed and ready to work.

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Hi all,
I just took my second of the two GMAT Official Prep practice CATs, and if it is accurate, I'm very happy with my score. Not to say I'm going to stop studying, but that I'm on the right track.
However, I'm wondering if the practice exams have any real relation score-wise with what I should expect on the GMAT itself. Does anyone know?

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The GMATPREP practice exams are very accurate at measuring your official score, given that you have replicated the exam center settings or take any unsanctioned breaks. Glad to hear that you are happy with your score!
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bb, all,

I'm happy to report I tentatively earned a 750 (49Q, 44V, 7IR) today, and a big thanks goes to GMAT Club! I'll admit I'm momentarily disappointed by my verbal and IR 'slips', but seems I held on with quant (wow that was much harder than GMAC CAT!). I'll certainly not fret nor lose any sleep over this though, and am excited to move on to the other parts of my applications. I really could not have done it without this forum - I used it as my primary resource. Big shoutout to all of you who participate regularly to make it such a wonderful resource!

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I have to bump this thread to ask something regarding this. Recently, I posted another thread about having a lot of time left over at the end of the test in the official GMAT Prep test (Link for reference: https://gmatclub.com/forum/finishing-with-a-lot-of-time-to-spare-good-or-bad-416318.html ) and bb mentioned that there are a finite number of difficult questions in GMAT Prep tests and that if you get those early then the questions start getting easier because that's all that is left in the pool.

Given this is the case, how can we say that these tests are accurate? If the actual GMAT test ends up giving more time consuming questions towards the end, wouldn't a user's experience be different in the GMAT Prep and the actual GMAT?

Let me also mention the trigger that made me ask this question: I was pretty pleased with the scores that I got in the GMAT Prep tests but then I decided to take a few adaptive GMAT Club tests. I notice that my scores in them are extremely low and like predicted, I am not finishing with time to spare anymore. In fact, I end up having to guess a few questions due to lack of time and this is affecting my score.
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Hi bcl,

The official practice test scores are quite accurate, so it seems as though you are on the right track!
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Hi Ashwin_Krishnan,

Ashwin_Krishnan
Given this is the case, how can we say that these tests are accurate?
Accuracy will be reduced, but the algorithm will attempt to compensate: If you get a bunch of easy questions, the test will penalise incorrect answers much more heavily. And if you get every one of those easy questions correct, the test can still cut your score ("equating").

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If the actual GMAT test ends up giving more time consuming questions towards the end, wouldn't a user's experience be different in the GMAT Prep and the actual GMAT?
The GMAT algorithm takes expected completion time into account. To be clear, the time you take to solve a question doesn't affect your score in any way.

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Let me also mention the trigger that made me ask this question: I was pretty pleased with the scores that I got in the GMAT Prep tests but then I decided to take a few adaptive GMAT Club tests. I notice that my scores in them are extremely low and like predicted, I am not finishing with time to spare anymore. In fact, I end up having to guess a few questions due to lack of time and this is affecting my score.
The official practice tests are, by far, the best practice tests available. I do think that nonofficial tests can be useful, but the data/analysis and overall experience can be off, sometimes by a lot.
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Ultimately, the Official-Mocks are the best mocks out there in terms of representing the actual exam. The product info even mentions, for example, how an Official-Mock "Leverages the same scoring algorithm as the real GMAT™ exam" (MBA website - GMAT™ Official Starter Kit + Practice Exams 1 & 2).

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