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ari.banerjee
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Location: Canada
Concentration: Strategy, Finance
Schools: Mendoza '22 (WA$)
GMAT 1: 560 Q44 V24
GMAT 2: 540 Q31 V34
GMAT 3: 590 Q36 V34
GMAT 4: 600 Q42 V30
GRE 1: Q159 V152
GPA: 4
26 Dec 2019, 11:48
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Hello guys,
Happy holidays to every one.
I have been studying quite diligently for over 4 months now and I feel like I have covered all the topics conceptually. With that feeling in mind I started giving mocks. I purchased the veritas Prep mocks and gave the second and third mock. I had taken the 1st free Veritas mock a year back and score a 560. The following are my scores:
Veritas Prep 2: 610 (Q40, V 34) In that order.
I only got 3 Qs in the RC section wrong. I found the verbal section extraordinarily hard. Most of the SC qs were noun+noun modifier type qs and some I dont even know how to categorize them. When I searched the qs I got wrong on GMATclub forums they were listed as 65 - 95% hard.
Veritas Prep 3: 620 (V31, Q44) In that order.
On both Veritas Prep exam verbal sections I got three 4 paragraph passages and one 2 paragraph passage. I am a slow reader (a reason that helps me score very high on RCs). But I found myself constantly short of y mile stone chart during the exam. Those long RCs took up most of my time even though I was solving CRs in 1.5 mins on average. I thought I did well on Quant and most of my mistakes were on "gotcha" type of questions where I missed a little twist on the question (fatigue induced).
Anyway after reviewing the qs and going through the answer choices on gmat club and reading the experts explanations on these qs, I decided to give another mock. This time I bought the exam pack 5-6 as I didnt trust the quality of Veritas prep qs very much. They are nonetheless very good for exam practice and consists of some very tough qs. I had appeared on the GMAT exam pack 1-4 during the preparations for my previous GMAT attempts and didn't want to reattempt them and get an inflated score.
I attempted the Verbal section first as I figured that I must go with my strong section first as fatigue seems to be a contributing factor in all my mocks. I am gassed by the end of the first section and I wanted to capitalize on my verbal section with a strong performance.
Official GMAT exam pack 5: 650 (V39, Q41)
Verbal: 9 Incorrect.
I ran out of time towards the end so I had to guess the last three qs which turned out to be incorrect.
I am happy with my Verbal score. I got 2/14 qs wrong on RCs. This time I only got one 5 paragraph Rc passage, one 3 paragraph, one 2 paragraph and one 1 paragraph passage. The qs I got wrong are listed as very hard on gmatclub (90% hard).
Quant section: 13 incorrect.
This really perplexed me as I dont think I have ever seen anyone score a Q 41 with only 13 qs wrong. I got a Q 44 on Vertas with 17 wrong answers. I also got 11/13 of the last qs in the quant section correct with many correct in a row. I dont understand my Quant score on the Gmat 4 exam.
While I was giving the Quant section, the exam timed me out and I had to login again and resume the test. I am wondering if there is a way that because it logged me out during the test it somehow screwed by score over? Is that possible? I didnt find the qs very difficult and my Q44 attempt on Veritas was def harder.
I looked around the forum a bit and there have been posts which suggest that 10-14 wrong can land you a score from 48-46. I am just very confused. Does anyone think that the momentary logging off had any impact on my score?
I want to book my real exam the moment I start scoring near the 700s and a Q47 and V39 will get me there. But I am not sure if I should believe my last GMAT prep 5 score. Can someone share any similar experiences?
Is my V39 even representative of my current verbal level?
I plan on giving another mock tomorrow Gmat prep 6. How reliable are the GMAT prep 5-6 exam pack qs?
I look forward to your suggestions.
Thank you!
Happy holidays to every one.
I have been studying quite diligently for over 4 months now and I feel like I have covered all the topics conceptually. With that feeling in mind I started giving mocks. I purchased the veritas Prep mocks and gave the second and third mock. I had taken the 1st free Veritas mock a year back and score a 560. The following are my scores:
Veritas Prep 2: 610 (Q40, V 34) In that order.
I only got 3 Qs in the RC section wrong. I found the verbal section extraordinarily hard. Most of the SC qs were noun+noun modifier type qs and some I dont even know how to categorize them. When I searched the qs I got wrong on GMATclub forums they were listed as 65 - 95% hard.
Veritas Prep 3: 620 (V31, Q44) In that order.
On both Veritas Prep exam verbal sections I got three 4 paragraph passages and one 2 paragraph passage. I am a slow reader (a reason that helps me score very high on RCs). But I found myself constantly short of y mile stone chart during the exam. Those long RCs took up most of my time even though I was solving CRs in 1.5 mins on average. I thought I did well on Quant and most of my mistakes were on "gotcha" type of questions where I missed a little twist on the question (fatigue induced).
Anyway after reviewing the qs and going through the answer choices on gmat club and reading the experts explanations on these qs, I decided to give another mock. This time I bought the exam pack 5-6 as I didnt trust the quality of Veritas prep qs very much. They are nonetheless very good for exam practice and consists of some very tough qs. I had appeared on the GMAT exam pack 1-4 during the preparations for my previous GMAT attempts and didn't want to reattempt them and get an inflated score.
I attempted the Verbal section first as I figured that I must go with my strong section first as fatigue seems to be a contributing factor in all my mocks. I am gassed by the end of the first section and I wanted to capitalize on my verbal section with a strong performance.
Official GMAT exam pack 5: 650 (V39, Q41)
Verbal: 9 Incorrect.
I ran out of time towards the end so I had to guess the last three qs which turned out to be incorrect.
I am happy with my Verbal score. I got 2/14 qs wrong on RCs. This time I only got one 5 paragraph Rc passage, one 3 paragraph, one 2 paragraph and one 1 paragraph passage. The qs I got wrong are listed as very hard on gmatclub (90% hard).
Quant section: 13 incorrect.
This really perplexed me as I dont think I have ever seen anyone score a Q 41 with only 13 qs wrong. I got a Q 44 on Vertas with 17 wrong answers. I also got 11/13 of the last qs in the quant section correct with many correct in a row. I dont understand my Quant score on the Gmat 4 exam.
While I was giving the Quant section, the exam timed me out and I had to login again and resume the test. I am wondering if there is a way that because it logged me out during the test it somehow screwed by score over? Is that possible? I didnt find the qs very difficult and my Q44 attempt on Veritas was def harder.
I looked around the forum a bit and there have been posts which suggest that 10-14 wrong can land you a score from 48-46. I am just very confused. Does anyone think that the momentary logging off had any impact on my score?
I want to book my real exam the moment I start scoring near the 700s and a Q47 and V39 will get me there. But I am not sure if I should believe my last GMAT prep 5 score. Can someone share any similar experiences?
Is my V39 even representative of my current verbal level?
I plan on giving another mock tomorrow Gmat prep 6. How reliable are the GMAT prep 5-6 exam pack qs?
I look forward to your suggestions.
Thank you!
27 Dec 2019, 12:26
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Hi ari.banerjee,
While I’m sure getting logged out in the middle of your exam had an effect on your concentration, it’s difficult to know whether it had any sort of effect on the algorithm and thus your score. In any case, I see you plan to take another GMAC practice exam. Once complete, feel free to report back here with your score breakdown.
While I’m sure getting logged out in the middle of your exam had an effect on your concentration, it’s difficult to know whether it had any sort of effect on the algorithm and thus your score. In any case, I see you plan to take another GMAC practice exam. Once complete, feel free to report back here with your score breakdown.
02 Jan 2020, 15:54
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Hi ari.banerjee,
To start, the scoring algorithm on the Official GMAT is far more complicated than most people realize. Since that algorithm is proprietary, no GMAT company has an exact match for it, thus CAT scores can vary a bit based on the 'biases' involved in their respective designs. The most realistic CATs available are the 6 from GMAC, but the CATs from Kaplan, MGMAT and Veritas are all 'close enough' to the real thing that they will provide you with a relatively realistic score assessment (assuming that you correctly take the CAT in a realistic fashion). There are a variety of factors that can influence YOUR performance on a Test (including the time that you start the Exam, how well-rested you are, the order in which you take the sections, how realistic the testing environment is, etc.), so you have to consider how well you are accounting for those variables. Getting logged-out of a test while you are in the middle of a section is clearly disruptive in-and-of itself, but there's no way to know how that may have impacted the Algorithm.
Going forward, it's important to note that each CAT is really a 'measuring device' - when used correctly, it will give you a realistic score and help define your strengths and weaknesses, but it will NOT help you to fix any of those weaknesses. To raise your scores, you have to learn the necessary Tactics and put in the proper practice and repetitions. The CAT will show you whether your studies are helping you to improve or not. As such, you really shouldn't take more than 1 FULL CAT per week.
Before I can offer you any additional advice for your studies, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:
1) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
2) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
3) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
To start, the scoring algorithm on the Official GMAT is far more complicated than most people realize. Since that algorithm is proprietary, no GMAT company has an exact match for it, thus CAT scores can vary a bit based on the 'biases' involved in their respective designs. The most realistic CATs available are the 6 from GMAC, but the CATs from Kaplan, MGMAT and Veritas are all 'close enough' to the real thing that they will provide you with a relatively realistic score assessment (assuming that you correctly take the CAT in a realistic fashion). There are a variety of factors that can influence YOUR performance on a Test (including the time that you start the Exam, how well-rested you are, the order in which you take the sections, how realistic the testing environment is, etc.), so you have to consider how well you are accounting for those variables. Getting logged-out of a test while you are in the middle of a section is clearly disruptive in-and-of itself, but there's no way to know how that may have impacted the Algorithm.
Going forward, it's important to note that each CAT is really a 'measuring device' - when used correctly, it will give you a realistic score and help define your strengths and weaknesses, but it will NOT help you to fix any of those weaknesses. To raise your scores, you have to learn the necessary Tactics and put in the proper practice and repetitions. The CAT will show you whether your studies are helping you to improve or not. As such, you really shouldn't take more than 1 FULL CAT per week.
Before I can offer you any additional advice for your studies, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:
1) On what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
2) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
3) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
