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If m is set of integers from 500<m<900. How many elements will m have, If m is multiple of 4 but not a multiple of 6.
1) 33
2) 34
3) 48
4) 66
5) 67
Number of terms = \(\frac{Last Term-First Term}{Increment}+1\)
First Term must be 504 not divisible by 6)
Last term is 896
Number of terms
\((\frac{896-504}{4}+1)=(\frac{392}{4}+1)=(98+1)=99\)
To exclude one of two integers as a factor
1) use LCM. LCM of 4 and 6 is 12
(4 * 3)=12
Every third term must be omitted. \(\frac{2}{3}\) of terms will remain.
\((\frac{2}{3}*99)=66\)
Total number of terms in m: (99 - 33) = 66
OR
2) Find the pattern: list the first few terms
504, 508, 512, 516, 520, 524
Which terms are divisible by 6?
Six terms are listed.
-- Not divisible by 6: 504 and 508
-- Divisible by 6: 512
-- Not divisible by 6: 516 and 520
-- Divisible by 6: 524
Six terms. Two are divisible by 6.
\(\frac{2}{6}=\frac{1}{3}\) of the terms must be excluded. \(\frac{2}{3}\) are kept.
That pattern will hold.
Number of terms: \((\frac{2}{3}* 99)=66\) terms
Answer D
dave13
hello
generis i will be rephrasing and/or commenting your explanation , that way i may understand the solution
To exclude one of two integers as a factor.
Got it. Very logical, to solve a major problem, one should get rid of second problem 1) use LCM. LCM of 4 and 6 is 12
got it in other words we need to find a common language between two numbers (4 * 3)=12 (
ok, here you multiply 4 by 3 to get 12 )
why 4*3 and not 6*2, or 12*1 4*3 is like main spoken lamguage, and 6*2, or 12*1 are dialects of 4*3 ? Every third term must be omitted.
(what do you mean every third term must be omitted? Why every third ? how did you see that ? if 4*3 = 12 and if every third term must be ommited to be divisible only by 4 then following this pattern i will have 4+4 =8, 4+4+4 = 12 = OMITTED (but its not third term) why ? , 4+4+4+4 = 16 , 4+4+4+4+4= 20, 4+4+4+4+4+4 = 24 (OMITTED), 4*7 = 28, 4*8= 32 4*9 = 36(OMITTED) 4*10 = 40, 4*11 =44, 4*12 = 48 (OMITTED) hmm looks like now i see a pattern\(\frac{2}{3}\) of terms will remain.
whats is the logic behind fraction without reading your second part of your explanation after '"OR" what does 2 as numerator mean and 3 as denominator how do you deduce that 2/3 is a number of terms divisible only by 4 and last question why cant i understand the solution ?
perhaps because its evening here, and i am like flashlight on solar battery ...
thank you
UPDATE: I GOT IT generis YAY dave13 Excellent! +1
And your timing could not be worse.
MOMENTS ago I finished writing the reply.
In case others are confused about issues that you raised, I am posting the reply.
[The sidebar self-talk is too funny:
"its evening here, and i am like a flashlight on solar battery" --
"hmm looks like now i see a pattern." It's like watching a Sherlock Holmes movie while Robert Downey Jr talks to himself.]
Quote:
if 4*3 = 12 and if every third term must be ommited to be divisible only by 4 then following this pattern i will have 4+4 =8, 4+4+4 = 12 = OMITTED (but its not third term) why ?
Whoops. You forgot to "count" 4 itself.
Quote:
\(\frac{2}{3}\) of terms will remain.
whats is the logic behind fraction without reading your second part of your explanation after '"OR" what does 2 as numerator mean and 3 as denominator how do you deduce that 2/3 is a number of terms divisible only by 4
I'll back up. The prompt says that \(m\)
-- is a set of numbers between 500 and 900
-- m's terms MUST be multiples of 4 but CANNOT be multiples of 6
-- problem: OVERLAP. SOME multiples of 4 will also be multiples of 6
Solution?
1) find all the multiples of 4, then
2) remove, from that set, terms (multiples of 4) that are also multiples of 6
Restated: If a term is divisible by 4 AND 6, it gets removed from my set.
HOW? Below is an approach that is more intuitive than LCM
1) list a certain number of multiples of 4
2) check each multiple of 4: is it divisible by 6? Omit it
BIG TIP (a method that I use often and one that you employed most of the way):
Find the pattern with smaller, easier numbers. Let's say we want all the multiples of 4 that are between 1 and 50, but they cannot be multiples of 6
=> we will OMIT multiples of 4 that are also multiples of 6
Start by listing 12 of those multiples of 4:
4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28, 32, 36, 40, 44, 48
Which ones are
also multiples of 6?
4, 8,
12, 16, 20,
24, 28, 32,
36, 40, 44,
48 What is the pattern?
{4, 8,
12}
{16, 20,
24}
{28, 32,
36}
{40, 44,
48}
In a string of three multiples of 4, every third multiple (every third "term") is also a multiple of 6
1 term omitted out of 3 terms listed = \(\frac{1}{3}\) of the 3 terms are also multiples of 6 [to omit]
So - however many multiples of 4 we find in this problem, \(\frac{1}{3}\) of them must be omitted.
"I omit one out of the three terms" = "every third term gets omitted."
OR (more efficient): KEEP \(\frac{2}{3}\) of however many multiples of 4 that we find
\(\frac{2}{3}\) or "2 out of 3," we will keep numbers NOT in bold type
{4, 8,
12}
-- keep 4 and 8, which aren't multiples of 6
-- we kept 2 of 3 terms
-- Omit 12. It's a multiple of both 4 and 6
-- we omitted 1 of the 3 terms
{16, 20,
24}
-- keep 16 and 20. (We kept 2 of 3 terms)
-- Omit 24. It's a multiple of both 4 and 6. (We omitted 1 of the 3 terms)
I therefore
keep 2 out of 3 of the terms in the set that I found.
We found 99 multiples of 4.
Keep \(\frac{2}{3}\) of them
\(99*\frac{2}{3}=66\)
\(m = 66\)