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This question is not specific to this question but SC/CR questions in general wherein I am so close to the correct answer but yet so far. I am down to two options like in this case : A and E and ended up marking E. How to overcome this hurdle? How much ever practicing I do, the result is the same.. Please advise.

Thanks.

There's no quick fix for this, but it's worth noting that many verbal questions have one very tempting INCORRECT answer choice and one not-so-tempting CORRECT answer choice. Getting rid of the other three choices is often relatively easy, but deciding between the last two is often pretty darned hard.

On one hand, it's good that you aren't eliminating the correct answer choice! But unfortunately, you could simply be struggling with the hardest part of the question.

Keep in mind that you don't need to be perfect on the verbal section to get a great score. If you find yourself in this situation largely on harder questions, then that might not be such a bad thing! You might just need to make your best guess and move on to make sure you have the time and energy to tackle the more doable questions. (For more on time management on the GMAT, check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAHCLO2zN0M.)

If your time management is already in great shape and you're simply missing a lot of easy and/or medium questions, then you likely have more work to do. If that's the case, check out our CR guide or our SC guide to see if your technique needs any tweaking.

I hope that helps a bit, and have fun studying!
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In 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics.


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(A) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

The biggest thing that jumps out at me here is the word "and." Something has to be parallel with the phrase that follows the word "and." And I think we're in good shape: "... one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics." Cool, "first made in 1845" and "now included in virtually every textbook" both modify "an observation about electric current" -- and that makes perfect sense.

So let's keep (A).

Hi GMATNinja,
I'm totally lost-I can't figure out the core of this correct choice (A)! Could you help me to find out the core of this sentence?
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In 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics.



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AsadAbu wrote:

I'm totally lost-I can't figure out the core of this correct choice (A)! Could you help me to find out the core of this sentence?
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The easiest way to examine the main clause is to temporarily ignore some of the longer non-essential modifiers. The writer does us the favor of setting off some of these modifiers with commas, so we can see exactly what's crucial to the core meaning of the sentence and what's merely providing additional information.

Here's the sentence again, with the longer modifiers in red:

"Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics."

So the main clause here is simply telling us that Richard Stallman testified in hearings that one of his colleagues won a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws.

Notice the logical placement of each modifier, each right next to what it describes: "a well-known critic of the patent system" describes Richard Stallman; "to test the system" describes why the colleague won a patent; and " an observation..." describes one of Kirchhoff's laws.

I hope that helps!

Hey GMATNinja,
I did the same thing like you to find the core, but the green part from the "quote" makes me confused. Why the the green part is not written by "one of his colleagues" or by "a colleague of Richard"?

I, normally, can't write "the pillar's house"; I must write "house of the pillar". But, i can write: 1/ Richard's colleague and 2/ Colleague of Richard, both. The use of "colleague of his" is absurd to me.
Doesn't "one of his colleagues" or "colleague of Richard' makes more sense than "colleague of his". Actually, the uses of "colleague of his" is somewhat awkward to me.
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I did the same thing like you to find the core, but the green part from the "quote" makes me confused. Why the the green part is not written by "one of his colleagues" or by "a colleague of Richard"?

I, normally, can't write "the pillar's house"; I must write "house of the pillar". But, i can write: 1/ Richard's colleague and 2/ Colleague of Richard, both. The use of "colleague of his" is absurd to me.
Doesn't "one of his colleagues" or "colleague of Richard' makes more sense than "colleague of his". Actually, the uses of "colleague of his" is somewhat awkward to me.

In this case, the usage above: NOUN + OF + POSSESSIVE, is fairly standard. Think of common expressions like "a friend of mine." Nothing wrong with that. "A colleague of his" is the same construction.

But here's the broader point: try not to eliminate answer choices simply because they seem awkward. I feel your pain here. The Official Guide is full of explanations in which incorrect answers are dismissed because they're deemed "awkward". The problem with this is that what feels awkward to you might not have felt awkward to the question writer -- or to the random person writing the explanations for the publisher, often a decade or more after the original question was written. Frankly, those OG explanations misuse the word "awkward", and it's incredibly unhelpful.

Instead, try to find more concrete mistakes, such as grammatical errors and illogical meanings when whittling down your options. This way, you'll avoid having to read the mind of the question-writer. More on that general approach to SC in this article and this video.

I hope that helps!
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Can someone tell me how 'first made in 1845' modifies 'an observation about electric current' rather than just 'electric current'?

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(A) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

The biggest thing that jumps out at me here is the word "and." Something has to be parallel with the phrase that follows the word "and." And I think we're in good shape: "... one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics." Cool, "first made in 1845" and "now included in virtually every textbook" both modify "an observation about electric current" -- and that makes perfect sense.

So let's keep (A).

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(B) laws, which was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and it is

The "which" jumps out at me first in (B): "which was an observation..." modifies "one of Kirchoff's laws." That's OK, though we probably don't really even need the phrase "which was." It's not a big deal, but (A) is more succinct because it skips those extra couple of words. That's not a definite error, but it's a mild reason to prefer (A) over (B).

The bigger problem is the parallelism. Following the "and", we have a brand-new clause: "it is now included in virtually every textbook..." But I don't think that the clause is logically parallel to anything. And more importantly: there's no good reason to start a brand-new clause here, partly because we're just trying to describe the observation, so a simple modifier would be cleaner than a brand-new clause.

So (B) isn't a complete disaster, but it's definitely not as good as (A).

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(C) laws, namely, it was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

This is a classic comma splice:

  • Independent clause #1: "In 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws..."
  • Independent clause #2: "...it was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics."

Those two independent clauses are separated by only a comma, and that's not cool. (Commas and comma splices are very briefly discussed in this YouTube video on GMAT punctuation if you're curious to learn more about that crap.) So we can eliminate (C).

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(D) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845, it is

(D) has basically the same comma splice problem as (C):

  • Independent clause #1: "In 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws..."
  • Independent clause #2: "...it is now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics."

So (D) is out, too.

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(E) laws that was an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, and is

(E) isn't a total disaster, but it's definitely not as good as (A).

For starters, I'm not sure why we would say something like "...one of Kirchoff's laws that was an observation about electric current..." First, there's no good reason to emphasize the past tense in this case: sure, the observation was first made in the past, but there's no good reason to suggest that the law itself somehow existed only in the past -- and that's exactly what seems to be happening in (A). Second, the phrase "one of Kirchoff's laws that was an observation about electric current" suggests that Kirchoff had other laws that were NOT about electric current, and we have no idea if that's actually the case.

The other problem is the placement of the modifier "first made in 1845." This is subtle and annoying, but because "first made in 1845" is surrounded by commas (an appositive phrase, if you like grammar jargon), it seems to modify ONLY the preceding noun, "electric current." So if we think about the sentence strictly and literally, it's saying that electric current was first made in 1845, and that's really not what the sentence is trying to say -- it's trying to say that the observation was first made in 1845, not the electric current itself.

So (E) can be eliminated, and (A) is the best we can do.


Hi GMATNinja

Referring to the part in the end of your explanation that I have highlighted in bold, I feel that the same modifier issue is also in option A so why are we considering it only in option E? Also, are we not sure that "first made in 1845" can't refer to "current", which is an eternal phenomenon, and thus sure about the fact that it unambiguously refers to "observation"?

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varotkorn Hmm, I wouldn't call that a rule at all--it's a tendency that one observer has noted. There are many cases in which I wouldn't expect to see this followed with "that." A simpler rule of thumb is that we should repeat "that" (or "which," or any other structuring word) when needed to clarify the meaning. So no, I wouldn't expect this to hold with B or even E. We could say "which was X and is Y" as long as our intended meaning is clear. However, we'd need a justification for the shift in tense (do I really need the "was"?) and we would of course have to ditch "it" to have parallel verbs.

Dear AnthonyRitz AjiteshArun GMATGuruNY DmitryFarber GMATNinja,

Considering the highlighted part, what's wrong with E.?
(E) laws THAT WAS an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, AND IS

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In 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics.


(A) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

(B) laws, which was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and it is

(C) laws, namely, it was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

(D) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845, it is

(E) laws that was an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, and is


I made an error again in my second attempt and chose E over A.
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I understood what you said here.

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(A) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

The biggest thing that jumps out at me here is the word "and." Something has to be parallel with the phrase that follows the word "and." And I think we're in good shape: "... one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics." Cool, "first made in 1845" and "now included in virtually every textbook" both modify "an observation about electric current" -- and that makes perfect sense.

So let's keep (A).

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(E) laws that was an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, and is

(E) isn't a total disaster, but it's definitely not as good as (A).

For starters, I'm not sure why we would say something like "...one of Kirchoff's laws that was an observation about electric current..." First, there's no good reason to emphasize the past tense in this case: sure, the observation was first made in the past, but there's no good reason to suggest that the law itself somehow existed only in the past -- and that's exactly what seems to be happening in (A). Second, the phrase "one of Kirchoff's laws that was an observation about electric current" suggests that Kirchoff had other laws that were NOT about electric current, and we have no idea if that's actually the case.

The other problem is the placement of the modifier "first made in 1845." This is subtle and annoying, but because "first made in 1845" is surrounded by commas (an appositive phrase, if you like grammar jargon), it seems to modify ONLY the preceding noun, "electric current." So if we think about the sentence strictly and literally, it's saying that electric current was first made in 1845, and that's really not what the sentence is trying to say -- it's trying to say that the observation was first made in 1845, not the electric current itself.

So (E) can be eliminated, and (A) is the best we can do.


In my pursuit to eliminate E can i say that the structure of E is as follows:
In 1995 Richard Stallman[prep. phrase], a well-known critic of the patent system[appositive phrase - without it the sentence is not impacted], testified[simple past tense verb] in Patent Office hearings[modifies verb 'testified'] that[modifier], to test the system[modifier], a colleague of his had[past perfect tense - signify another event that happened earlier than testifying] managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws that[essential modifier modifying laws] was[simple past] an observation about electric current, first made in 1845[appositive phrase modifying observation], and[does not signal parallelism but a part of modifier that started with previous 'that'] is now[together 'is now' does not create any problem and help further in elaborating the modifier] included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics.

If I think E this way, I have hard time eliminating E and this is what i thought so while solving under timed condition.

Another meaning could be:
Taking the last part of E '1845, and is now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics', the 'COMMA + and' signifies a list in which the first element is 'had managed ... 1845' and second element is 'is now ... physics'. Thus meaning-wise it tells that the colleague is now included in physics textbook.
If I think it this way it becomes easier to eliminate since in A 'an observation .... elementary physics' is a complex modifier modifying 'patent' which is better than E.

Am I right in 2nd my understanding??

Please correct me if I'm making mistakes in sentence structure/meaning.
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unraveled The trouble is that you are using grammar rules to demonstrate that the sentence can be read as a grammatical English sentence (it can!) without considering the author's intended meaning. We don't have to go to the second meaning you suggest to see that E doesn't give us what we want. Take a look at my post on the previous page to see my take on the meaning troubles that E produces. They are a bit subtle, and not so outrageous as saying that a person is in a book, but they are still problematic enough to make E invalid.
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unraveled The trouble is that you are using grammar rules to demonstrate that the sentence can be read as a grammatical English sentence (it can!) without considering the author's intended meaning. We don't have to go to the second meaning you suggest to see that E doesn't give us what we want. Take a look at my post on the previous page to see my take on the meaning troubles that E produces. They are a bit subtle, and not so outrageous as saying that a person is in a book, but they are still problematic enough to make E invalid.


Yes I had gone through those three posts before posting my query. I hope you are referring to the highlighted one.
*Noted your point about grammar rules. I made them just to make my query clear enough as I was trying to understand the meaning by understanding the sentence structure.

DmitryFarber wrote:
It's quite normal for a noun modifier to apply to an entire noun phrase, rather than just the last noun in the phrase, as long as the meaning is clear and unambiguous. This can include skipping over a prepositional modifier to apply to the preceding noun. In this case, we can be certain that electric current wasn't first made in 1845, so there's no danger of misunderstanding.

Hmm, I wouldn't call that a rule at all--it's a tendency that one observer has noted. There are many cases in which I wouldn't expect to see this followed with "that." A simpler rule of thumb is that we should repeat "that" (or "which," or any other structuring word) when needed to clarify the meaning. So no, I wouldn't expect this to hold with B or even E. We could say "which was X and is Y" as long as our intended meaning is clear. However, we'd need a justification for the shift in tense (do I really need the "was"?) and we would of course have to ditch "it" to have parallel verbs.

What stands out to me most about E is how badly it garbles the meaning. First, the restrictive modifier (that) makes it appear that we are trying to narrow down which SET of Kirchoff's laws we are dealing with: "one of K's laws THAT was an observation." Even if it turns out that K had many such observations among his laws, there's no reason to contrast these from any others right now. Then we have the odd use of commas to set off "first made in 1845" from the rest. This sounds like the "first" is going to be contrasted with some later action, but then all we get is "and is now included," which would have to be parallel with the earlier "was an observation." As we've gotten into above, this doesn't work here, even if there's no blanket rule about switching tenses, but even if it worked perfectly, it would leave that "first made" modifier hanging by itself to no purpose.

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Since the meaning of the sentence could be anything, I weighed A and E equally.
Okay, for cleanliness(sentence structure and projected meaning) I can vote A over E but meaning-wise I can't weigh one over the other - reference of 'observations..electric current' to specific K's laws using 'that' in E OVER reference of patent to K's laws in A OR vice-a-versa.
Also, I can't simply eliminate E for it's restrictive nature wherein I'm not sure whether the meaning using 'that' is superior/inferior to A. If it's about questioning why that meaning, I can do that to both A and E.

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Is it that since no reference to specific patent is made in the non-underlined part that we can't refer to specific K's laws.?? If that's so - its would be outrageous - it becomes easier to cross out E and select A, not to mention, the clumsiness, thus meaning, of E as you have pointed out.
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(A) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

The biggest thing that jumps out at me here is the word "and." Something has to be parallel with the phrase that follows the word "and." And I think we're in good shape: "... one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics." Cool, "first made in 1845" and "now included in virtually every textbook" both modify "an observation about electric current" -- and that makes perfect sense.

So let's keep (A).


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Couple of questions here
1. The phrase an observation about electric current first made in 1845, here is it the observation that was made in 1845 or the current that was made in 1845 ? Isn't there an ambiguity here ? May be current is not made but generated !! :dazed
2. Regarding the parallel phrases which are modifying one of Kirchoff's laws -> Isn't it the case that both the phrases independently modify the noun one of Kirchoff's laws? Rather both first made in 1845 and now included.... modifying an observation about electric current ?
One of Kirchoff's laws
->The law is an observation about electric current first made in 1845
->The law is is now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics.

Please correct me if I am totally screwing here
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B states that laws which was an observation; laws is plural and was is singular . Secondly, the pronoun it has no antecedent. Does it refer to the observation or one of the laws or the patent or what? Therefore B is ruled out

why which cannot refer to "one of kirchoff's laws"?
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GMATNinja wrote:
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(A) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

The biggest thing that jumps out at me here is the word "and." Something has to be parallel with the phrase that follows the word "and." And I think we're in good shape: "... one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics." Cool, "first made in 1845" and "now included in virtually every textbook" both modify "an observation about electric current" -- and that makes perfect sense.

So let's keep (A).


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Couple of questions here
1. The phrase an observation about electric current first made in 1845, here is it the observation that was made in 1845 or the current that was made in 1845 ? Isn't there an ambiguity here ? May be current is not made but generated !! :dazed
2. Regarding the parallel phrases which are modifying one of Kirchoff's laws -> Isn't it the case that both the phrases independently modify the noun one of Kirchoff's laws? Rather both first made in 1845 and now included.... modifying an observation about electric current ?
One of Kirchoff's laws
->The law is an observation about electric current first made in 1845
->The law is is now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics.

Please correct me if I am totally screwing here

Regarding your second question: after the "and" we have "included," an "-ed" modifier. So it should be parallel to another modifier (i.e. "made"), not a noun (i.e. "observation").

Regarding your first question: yes, technically "first made in 1845" could modify "electric current" or "observation." But notice that we run into this potential problem in ALL five answer choices! So we're stuck with it and don't actually have to worry about whether it's ambiguous.

Also, as explained above, "made" and "included" are parallel in choice (A). So if "first made" modified electric current, that would imply that the electric current is "now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics" -- and that wouldn't make any sense. And did scientists create some special electric current in 1845 and then continue to study that particular electric current for years to come?

All signs point to the more logical meaning, which is that the observation (about electric current) was first made in 1845.

I hope that helps!
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The other problem is the placement of the modifier "first made in 1845." This is subtle and annoying, but because "first made in 1845" is surrounded by commas (an appositive phrase, if you like grammar jargon), it seems to modify ONLY the preceding noun, "electric current." So if we think about the sentence strictly and literally, it's saying that electric current was first made in 1845, and that's really not what the sentence is trying to say -- it's trying to say that the observation was first made in 1845, not the electric current itself.


How do we know if in the given sentence the intended reference of "first made in 1845" is for "observation" or "electric current"?

The appositive in the given sentence (or the correct sentence): "an observation about electric current first made in 1845"

"first made in 1845" is immediately following the "electric current". Should "electric current" not be the correct referent for "first made in 1845" as per this?


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(A) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

The biggest thing that jumps out at me here is the word "and." Something has to be parallel with the phrase that follows the word "and." And I think we're in good shape: "... one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics." Cool, "first made in 1845" and "now included in virtually every textbook" both modify "an observation about electric current" -- and that makes perfect sense.

So let's keep (A).

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(B) laws, which was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and it is

The "which" jumps out at me first in (B): "which was an observation..." modifies "one of Kirchoff's laws." That's OK, though we probably don't really even need the phrase "which was." It's not a big deal, but (A) is more succinct because it skips those extra couple of words. That's not a definite error, but it's a mild reason to prefer (A) over (B).

The bigger problem is the parallelism. Following the "and", we have a brand-new clause: "it is now included in virtually every textbook..." But I don't think that the clause is logically parallel to anything. And more importantly: there's no good reason to start a brand-new clause here, partly because we're just trying to describe the observation, so a simple modifier would be cleaner than a brand-new clause.

So (B) isn't a complete disaster, but it's definitely not as good as (A).

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(C) laws, namely, it was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

This is a classic comma splice:

  • Independent clause #1: "In 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws..."
  • Independent clause #2: "...it was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics."

Those two independent clauses are separated by only a comma, and that's not cool. (Commas and comma splices are very briefly discussed in this YouTube video on GMAT punctuation if you're curious to learn more about that crap.) So we can eliminate (C).

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(D) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845, it is

(D) has basically the same comma splice problem as (C):

  • Independent clause #1: "In 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws..."
  • Independent clause #2: "...it is now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics."

So (D) is out, too.

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(E) laws that was an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, and is

(E) isn't a total disaster, but it's definitely not as good as (A).

For starters, I'm not sure why we would say something like "...one of Kirchoff's laws that was an observation about electric current..." First, there's no good reason to emphasize the past tense in this case: sure, the observation was first made in the past, but there's no good reason to suggest that the law itself somehow existed only in the past -- and that's exactly what seems to be happening in (A). Second, the phrase "one of Kirchoff's laws that was an observation about electric current" suggests that Kirchoff had other laws that were NOT about electric current, and we have no idea if that's actually the case.

The other problem is the placement of the modifier "first made in 1845." This is subtle and annoying, but because "first made in 1845" is surrounded by commas (an appositive phrase, if you like grammar jargon), it seems to modify ONLY the preceding noun, "electric current." So if we think about the sentence strictly and literally, it's saying that electric current was first made in 1845, and that's really not what the sentence is trying to say -- it's trying to say that the observation was first made in 1845, not the electric current itself.

So (E) can be eliminated, and (A) is the best we can do.
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Thank you Brian123. I think I got your point. But just to confirm:

(A) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and
Here, "first made in 1845" modifies "observation"
And, thus it is correct.

(E) laws that was an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, and is
Here, "first made in 1845" modifies "electric current".
And, thus it is incorrect.

My takeaway: When a modifier is separated by comma (as in Option E), the modifier always modifies the immediate preceding noun. Whereas, when there is no comma (as in Option A), it can modify a noun need not necessarily be immediately preceding to it. Hope my understanding is correct here?
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Thank you Brian123. I think I got your point. But just to confirm:

(A) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and
Here, "first made in 1845" modifies "observation"
And, thus it is correct.

(E) laws that was an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, and is
Here, "first made in 1845" modifies "electric current".
And, thus it is incorrect.

My takeaway: When a modifier is separated by comma (as in Option E), the modifier always modifies the immediate preceding noun. Whereas, when there is no comma (as in Option A), it can modify a noun need not necessarily be immediately preceding to it. Hope my understanding is correct here?


before Brian123 replies, Here is my view point:

You are going in dangerous territory. There is no absolute such rule. modifers can jump over prepositions.
I went to picks vegetables from Walmart, a place that is well know
I went to picks vegetables from Walmart in XYZ area, a famous supermarket chain

I went to picks vegetables from Walmart that is situated nearby my house
I went to pick vegetables from Walmart that I am going to cook today
you can see from above examples: modifier can jump over prepositions to make a sensical meaning



See below sentences:
I went to buy vegetables from area that I like
like what? area or vegetables? to understand the meaning I need to read the context or check other option that clears this ambiguity
I went to buy vegetables from area which I like--> ok means area--no ambiguity


Key Point is: look for strong reasons( core grammatically rules : SV pair etc. , clear meaning ) to reject or accept the option. The rule that you defined is in grey zone.

For this particular SC, the core is with what comes after laws: comma or which or another sentence.
After you shortlist , then you need to choose best .it maybe possible that 2 options are grammatically correct but one is better over other in meaning concise

I hope it is helpful.
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(E) laws that was an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, and is

(E) isn't a total disaster, but it's definitely not as good as (A).

For starters, I'm not sure why we would say something like "...one of Kirchoff's laws that was an observation about electric current..." First, there's no good reason to emphasize the past tense in this case: sure, the observation was first made in the past, but there's no good reason to suggest that the law itself somehow existed only in the past -- and that's exactly what seems to be happening in (A). Second, the phrase "one of Kirchoff's laws that was an observation about electric current" suggests that Kirchoff had other laws that were NOT about electric current, and we have no idea if that's actually the case.

The other problem is the placement of the modifier "first made in 1845." This is subtle and annoying, but because "first made in 1845" is surrounded by commas (an appositive phrase, if you like grammar jargon), it seems to modify ONLY the preceding noun, "electric current." So if we think about the sentence strictly and literally, it's saying that electric current was first made in 1845, and that's really not what the sentence is trying to say -- it's trying to say that the observation was first made in 1845, not the electric current itself.

So (E) can be eliminated, and (A) is the best we can do.



Hello GMATNinja, EXPERTS

Thanks for the explanation.

Question - Can we eliminate options B and C just because of their emphasis on the past tense -was- similar to what you have mentioned for option E?
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