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# In reference to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequent

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17 Sep 2019, 10:43
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unflinchingSubhs wrote:
There seems to be a lot of idiom play ...With Reference/In reference ...anxiety about /anxiety that etc.
How do I get to the correct answer based on meaning and grammar .
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In reference to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety that their prospects for being hired and promoted are being stunted by their habit.

(A) In reference to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety that
(B) Referring to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety about
(D) With reference to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety about

unflinchingSubhs I will try. The non underlined portion tells us that the tense is present tense. Simpler example: Referring to the current job trend, I express my concern for the potential candidates. Now in this case I won't say I "expressed" - Past Tense - So your tense has to remain simple present tense.
You get rid of A,B and D.

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(C) When referring to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently express anxiety about
(E) Referring to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently express anxiety that

You have to pick between "Smokers, when referring to the current..." and "Smokers, referring to the current ....". Obviously the later is a proper and better usage. Usage of when seems inappropriate here and not needed too.

Hence E
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28 Sep 2019, 08:05
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unflinchingSubhs wrote:
There seems to be a lot of idiom play ...With Reference/In reference ...anxiety about /anxiety that etc.
How do I get to the correct answer based on meaning and grammar .
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In reference to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety that their prospects for being hired and promoted are being stunted by their habit.

(A) In reference to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety that
(B) Referring to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety about
(D) With reference to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety about

unflinchingSubhs I will try. The non underlined portion tells us that the tense is present tense. Simpler example: Referring to the current job trend, I express my concern for the potential candidates. Now in this case I won't say I "expressed" - Past Tense - So your tense has to remain simple present tense.
You get rid of A,B and D.

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(C) When referring to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently express anxiety about
(E) Referring to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently express anxiety that

You have to pick between "Smokers, when referring to the current..." and "Smokers, referring to the current ....". Obviously the later is a proper and better usage. Usage of when seems inappropriate here and not needed too.

Hence E

Thanks to my avatar-buddy TheNightKing for the great explanation!

For more on choice (C) vs choice (E), check out this post by egmat.
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In reference to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety that their prospects for being hired and promoted are being stunted by their habit.

(A) In reference to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety that
Expl. Using past tense distorts the meaning. ...smokers expressed...that...prospects are being stunted.... We dont have to emphasize that they did finish expressing anxiety sometime in the past. Especially not if they are referring to the current hostility.

(B) Referring to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety about
Expl. Using about, the sentence becomes something like expressed...anxiety about...their prospects are being stunted.... This just does not make sense. You express anxiety about a thing, a noun. Not about a full clause. We need the keyword that to refer to a full clause/action/etc.

(C) When referring to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently express anxiety about
Expl. Same as in (B).

(D) With reference to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety about
Expl. Same as in (B).

(E) Referring to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently express anxiety that
Expl. This version corrects both errors from A and B.
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what is the difference between B & D?
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05 Jan 2020, 08:48
what is the difference between B & D?

Looking at (B) and (D), we have "referring to" vs "with reference to". Is one of those wrong? Maybe, but I certainly wouldn't eliminate either based on that difference alone.

And luckily, we don't have to! Both of these options (as well as choice C) boil down to, "smokers frequently expressed anxiety about their prospects {...} are being stunted by their habit." As described in this post by daagh, that doesn't work.

• "I'm nervous about my audition." - No problem here: "I'm nervous about X."
• "I'm nervous because I have an audition tomorrow." - All good here. We can have a clause (subject-verb pair) after "because".
• "I'm nervous about I have an audition tomorrow." - No good. We can't have a subject-verb pair ("I have") after the preposition ("about").
• "Smokers expressed anxiety about their prospects are being stunted." - This is wrong for the same reason.

I hope that helps!
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25 Jan 2020, 23:13
unflinchingSubhs wrote:
There seems to be a lot of idiom play ...With Reference/In reference ...anxiety about /anxiety that etc.
How do I get to the correct answer based on meaning and grammar .
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I agree with you unflinchingSubhs. Therefore I would like to present my 2-cents based on grammar and meaning and the experts can chime in as well!

In reference to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety that their prospects for being hired and promoted are being stunted by their habit.

(A) In reference to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety that
INCORRECT : If there is a current hostility towards smoking, how can smokers 'expressed their anxiety '? Should this expression not be in a simple present or present progressive to suggest the same?

(B) Referring to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety about
INCORRECT: Same error as in (A)

(C) When referring to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently express anxiety about
INCORRECT: Grammar and meaning wise this is correct but the about is not a great way to complete this for idiomatic reasons as well as the fact that about is a preposition and not a relative clause modifier.(daagh Sir has also explained this very well) Also using the 'that' from the original sentence preserves its original meaning.

(D) With reference to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently expressed anxiety about
INCORRECT: Usage of past tense and the word about

(E) Referring to the current hostility toward smoking, smokers frequently express anxiety that
CORRECT: The expression of the anxiety of the smokers is in present tense and logically refers to their expression towards the current hostility towards smoking. Moreover that completes the sentence as a relative clause modifier.

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