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I don't have clear if the modifier can be separated by a noun modifier between commas. For instance,

Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

This sentence is correct?
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MartyKaan No, we generally don't want to stack noun modifiers. In the sentence you provided, "which" seems to apply to "telephone" rather than "radio."
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egmat, Thanks a lot for this wonderful article. Another post on Gmatclub, which was on the same topic, gave me a hard time. Many thanks.

Also, in the above sentence the word "which" modifies the post even though "on Gmatclub" is present. This is possible as "on Gmatclub" modifies the post. Am I right? :think:
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Thanks a lot! Know I understand why: :thumbsup:
RIGHT: "I took the pictures of my dog, which are so adorable." --> "of dog" modifies a noun (dog)
WRONG: "I took the pictures in 1995, which are so adorable." --> "in 1995" modifies a verb (took)
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Below is another example of this! OG correct answer with a "which" phrase referring back to a noun that's not immediately before it [which].

Global warming is said to be responsible for extreme weather changes, such as the heavy rains that led to flooding throughout the state of California, causing more than $2 billion in damages, and the heat wave in the Northeastern and Midwestern United States, which was also the cause of a great amount of damage and destruction. - correct answer
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I have a question about this OG SC sentence

While Noble Sissle may be best known for his collaboration with Eubie Blake, as both a vaudeville performer and as a lyricist for songs and Broadway musicals, also enjoying an independent career as a singer with such groups as Hahn's Jubilee Singers.

(A) and as a lyricist for songs and Broadway musicals, also enjoying
(B) and writing lyrics for songs and Broadway musicals, also enjoying
(C) and a lyricist for songs and Broadway musicals, he also enjoyed
(D) as well as writing lyrics for songs and Broadway musicals, he also enjoyed
(E) as well as a lyricist for songs and Broadway musicals, he had also enjoyed

The correct choice is (C), so the correct sentence is
While Noble Sissle may be best known for his collaboration with Eubie Blake, as both a vaudeville performer and a lyricist for songs and Broadway musicals, he also enjoyed an independent career as a singer with such groups as Hahn's Jubilee Singers.

I am not clear about the role of "as both a vaudeville performer and a lyricist for songs and Broadway musicals". Does it modify the far-way noun " Noble Sissle" in the while clause or modify "he", the subject of the main clause?
It seems to be a dangling modifier, but it is in the correct choice.
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Hi E-gmat team,

Really great article. It has helped me to improve my understanding of this topic. Could you kindly help to clarify my understanding further in this question below:

The satellite Orbiter will spend some time hunting for brown dwarfs, masses of gas smaller than our Sun, which are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe's 'Invisible dark matter'

A.) brown dwarfs, masses of gas smaller than our Sun, which are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe's 'Invisible dark matter'

B.) brown dwarfs which are masses of gas smaller than our Sun, which are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe 'Invisible dark matter'

C.) brown dwarfs, masses of gas smaller than our Sun, that are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe's 'Invisible dark matter'

D.) brown dwarfs; masses of gas smaller than our Sun that are too cool to burn and that are making up the Universe's 'Invisible dark matter'

E.) brown dwarfs that are masses of gas smaller than our Sun, which are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe 'Invisible dark matter'

Here A is the right answer. I have minor confusion in this option alone

option a

brown dwarfs is modifed by "masses of gas smaller than our sun". Hence, which are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe's 'Invisible dark matter can jump across this modifier to modify brown dwarfs (is my understanding correct ?)

also is "which" usage correct or would "that" be a better use here ? reason if i remove the masses of gas smaller than our sun.. then the sentence reduces to

brown dwarfs which are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe's 'Invisible dark matter' .. but from my understanding which should have a comma before it...

hope i was able to articulate my doubt. Kindly help to clarify. thanks
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Hi E-gmat team,

Really great article. It has helped me to improve my understanding of this topic. Could you kindly help to clarify my understanding further in this question below:

The satellite Orbiter will spend some time hunting for brown dwarfs, masses of gas smaller than our Sun, which are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe's 'Invisible dark matter'

A.) brown dwarfs, masses of gas smaller than our Sun, which are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe's 'Invisible dark matter'

B.) brown dwarfs which are masses of gas smaller than our Sun, which are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe 'Invisible dark matter'

C.) brown dwarfs, masses of gas smaller than our Sun, that are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe's 'Invisible dark matter'

D.) brown dwarfs; masses of gas smaller than our Sun that are too cool to burn and that are making up the Universe's 'Invisible dark matter'

E.) brown dwarfs that are masses of gas smaller than our Sun, which are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe 'Invisible dark matter'

Here A is the right answer. I have minor confusion in this option alone

option a

brown dwarfs is modifed by "masses of gas smaller than our sun". Hence, which are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe's 'Invisible dark matter can jump across this modifier to modify brown dwarfs (is my understanding correct ?)

also is "which" usage correct or would "that" be a better use here ? reason if i remove the masses of gas smaller than our sun.. then the sentence reduces to

brown dwarfs which are too cool to burn and which may make up the Universe's 'Invisible dark matter' .. but from my understanding which should have a comma before it...

hope i was able to articulate my doubt. Kindly help to clarify. thanks



Hello vivekgmat29,

I am glad you liked the article. :)


Yes, your understanding is correct. The modifier "masses of gas... Sun" is the modifier for "brown dwarfs" and cannot be placed anywhere else in the sentence. So, the noun modifiers starting with "which" can very well jump over this modifier and modify the far-away noun "brown dwarfs".

In this sentence, the use of "which" is correct. The use of "that" will present the same modification. We at @e-GMAT.com NEVER encourage our students to remove any part from the sentence and then analyze it because we firmly believe that every single word used in the question has a reason. The modifiers add to the contextual information so that we better understand the logic of the sentence. So, there is no need to remove any part from the sentence for analysis.

Moreover. what is generally identified as "non-essential" information MUST be rectified if it contains any error. If this "non-essential" modifier is taken out of the sentence for analysis, then how the error will be rectified? Chances are high that a student will end up marking an incorrect answer choice. So, please be advised not to remove even a word from the sentence for analysis.


Hope this helps. :-)
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egmat can you please explain how this is correct?

This sentence is same as the sentence called as a mistake - "2. The committee chose Mr. Smith in the last meeting, who was the most experienced member, to lead all the management-related operations."
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https://gmatclub.com/forum/neuroscientists-having-amassed-a-wealth-of-knowledge-over-the-past-96386.html

egmat can you please explain how this is correct?

This sentence is same as the sentence called as a mistake - "2. The committee chose Mr. Smith in the last meeting, who was the most experienced member, to lead all the management-related operations."



Hello hanmanjeney,

Thank you for the query. :-)


You can find our detailed solution for this official question in this link: https://gmatclub.com/forum/neuroscientists-having-amassed-a-wealth-of-knowledge-over-the-past-96386.html#p1083520

After going through the solution, if your doubt still persists, then do let me know. I will be glad to answer any questions.

Hope this helps. :-)
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Never saw a comprehensive and elaborate article on noun modifiers.
Thanks, Shraddha for the wonderful article.
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there can be instances where such modification will not be possible.

In the above sentence, isn't "where" incorrect and "in which" is better suited ??

Reason: I thought that "where" usually used to refer a location or some kind of space....or is there any other usage of "where" that I am unaware of ??

PS: usage.....that (of "where" is modifying usage) :P [See, I am learning]
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