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20 Jul 2017, 14:19
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Was scoring Q49-Q50 on all mocks (official, gmat club, etc.), so was surprised to see a Q42 (45th percentile) on the actual test.
Wasn’t the test suppose to be adaptive? Of course it wouldn’t be adaptive for the extreme test taker. For example, a genius might get 8 of the last 9 correct, or even 9 of the last 9 correct and the test wouldn’t be considered adaptive for him because he knows all the answers. On the same hand a clown might get 0 or 1 of the last 9 questions correct, and the test wouldn’t be adaptive for him because he doesn’t know any of the questions.
But I scored around the 50th percentile, how can you say your test was adaptive, and you were adapting the questions to my level the entire test and have a test taker end up answering 8 of the last 9 questions correctly? (assuming 8 of 9 correct is considered good)
More importantly, the questions were between a medium to hard level, how can you have a test taker end up answering 8 of the last 9 correctly and end up with such a poor score in the 45th percentile?
I would consider almost all of the questions I had to be at a 600-700 level, very few at sub 600 level, and I don’t think I had a 700 level question. Even in the second question set, I also got 8 of 9 questions correctly, and the questions raised very little in difficulty. Are the 700 level questions reserved only for high scorers (Q49+) and even at that, those scorers only see 700+ level questions at the very end, and see very few of them (maybe the last 3, 5, or 7 questions)?
Why do you think I scored so poorly?
(1) I didn’t start off too well, maybe answered 6-7 of the first 9 questions correctly. So did missing 2-3 questions at the beginning considered not recoverable?
(2) I didn’t do well in the 3rd question set, maybe got 5 of 9 correct, so I missed 4. Hypothetically speaking, say I got 3 of those 4 right, at that point I would have got 8 of the 9 correct in the 3rd section also. At that point, I had 8 of 9 correct in the 2nd section, 8 of 9 correct in the 3rd section (hypothetically), and 8 of 9 correct in the 4th section. I would consider that doing exceptionally well, a score worthy in the 80th+ percentile. So did missing 3 questions in the 3rd problem set, completely tank my score to the 45th percentile?
Wasn’t the test suppose to be adaptive? Of course it wouldn’t be adaptive for the extreme test taker. For example, a genius might get 8 of the last 9 correct, or even 9 of the last 9 correct and the test wouldn’t be considered adaptive for him because he knows all the answers. On the same hand a clown might get 0 or 1 of the last 9 questions correct, and the test wouldn’t be adaptive for him because he doesn’t know any of the questions.
But I scored around the 50th percentile, how can you say your test was adaptive, and you were adapting the questions to my level the entire test and have a test taker end up answering 8 of the last 9 questions correctly? (assuming 8 of 9 correct is considered good)
More importantly, the questions were between a medium to hard level, how can you have a test taker end up answering 8 of the last 9 correctly and end up with such a poor score in the 45th percentile?
I would consider almost all of the questions I had to be at a 600-700 level, very few at sub 600 level, and I don’t think I had a 700 level question. Even in the second question set, I also got 8 of 9 questions correctly, and the questions raised very little in difficulty. Are the 700 level questions reserved only for high scorers (Q49+) and even at that, those scorers only see 700+ level questions at the very end, and see very few of them (maybe the last 3, 5, or 7 questions)?
Why do you think I scored so poorly?
(1) I didn’t start off too well, maybe answered 6-7 of the first 9 questions correctly. So did missing 2-3 questions at the beginning considered not recoverable?
(2) I didn’t do well in the 3rd question set, maybe got 5 of 9 correct, so I missed 4. Hypothetically speaking, say I got 3 of those 4 right, at that point I would have got 8 of the 9 correct in the 3rd section also. At that point, I had 8 of 9 correct in the 2nd section, 8 of 9 correct in the 3rd section (hypothetically), and 8 of 9 correct in the 4th section. I would consider that doing exceptionally well, a score worthy in the 80th+ percentile. So did missing 3 questions in the 3rd problem set, completely tank my score to the 45th percentile?
20 Jul 2017, 22:06
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jasonfodor
Was scoring Q49-Q50 on all mocks (official, gmat club, etc.), so was surprised to see a Q42 (45th percentile) on the actual test.
Wasn’t the test suppose to be adaptive? Of course it wouldn’t be adaptive for the extreme test taker. For example, a genius might get 8 of the last 9 correct, or even 9 of the last 9 correct and the test wouldn’t be considered adaptive for him because he knows all the answers. On the same hand a clown might get 0 or 1 of the last 9 questions correct, and the test wouldn’t be adaptive for him because he doesn’t know any of the questions.
But I scored around the 50th percentile, how can you say your test was adaptive, and you were adapting the questions to my level the entire test and have a test taker end up answering 8 of the last 9 questions correctly? (assuming 8 of 9 correct is considered good)
More importantly, the questions were between a medium to hard level, how can you have a test taker end up answering 8 of the last 9 correctly and end up with such a poor score in the 45th percentile?
I would consider almost all of the questions I had to be at a 600-700 level, very few at sub 600 level, and I don’t think I had a 700 level question. Even in the second question set, I also got 8 of 9 questions correctly, and the questions raised very little in difficulty. Are the 700 level questions reserved only for high scorers (Q49+) and even at that, those scorers only see 700+ level questions at the very end, and see very few of them (maybe the last 3, 5, or 7 questions)?
Why do you think I scored so poorly?
(1) I didn’t start off too well, maybe answered 6-7 of the first 9 questions correctly. So did missing 2-3 questions at the beginning considered not recoverable?
(2) I didn’t do well in the 3rd question set, maybe got 5 of 9 correct, so I missed 4. Hypothetically speaking, say I got 3 of those 4 right, at that point I would have got 8 of the 9 correct in the 3rd section also. At that point, I had 8 of 9 correct in the 2nd section, 8 of 9 correct in the 3rd section (hypothetically), and 8 of 9 correct in the 4th section. I would consider that doing exceptionally well, a score worthy in the 80th+ percentile. So did missing 3 questions in the 3rd problem set, completely tank my score to the 45th percentile?
Look at the line showing the average difficulty of the questions you got wrong. It's always above the blue line. That shows that the test was giving you one or more questions that were above the level you were maintaining. That's why your score actually went up consistently (you managed to recover, somewhat, from a pretty bad start).Wasn’t the test suppose to be adaptive? Of course it wouldn’t be adaptive for the extreme test taker. For example, a genius might get 8 of the last 9 correct, or even 9 of the last 9 correct and the test wouldn’t be considered adaptive for him because he knows all the answers. On the same hand a clown might get 0 or 1 of the last 9 questions correct, and the test wouldn’t be adaptive for him because he doesn’t know any of the questions.
But I scored around the 50th percentile, how can you say your test was adaptive, and you were adapting the questions to my level the entire test and have a test taker end up answering 8 of the last 9 questions correctly? (assuming 8 of 9 correct is considered good)
More importantly, the questions were between a medium to hard level, how can you have a test taker end up answering 8 of the last 9 correctly and end up with such a poor score in the 45th percentile?
I would consider almost all of the questions I had to be at a 600-700 level, very few at sub 600 level, and I don’t think I had a 700 level question. Even in the second question set, I also got 8 of 9 questions correctly, and the questions raised very little in difficulty. Are the 700 level questions reserved only for high scorers (Q49+) and even at that, those scorers only see 700+ level questions at the very end, and see very few of them (maybe the last 3, 5, or 7 questions)?
Why do you think I scored so poorly?
(1) I didn’t start off too well, maybe answered 6-7 of the first 9 questions correctly. So did missing 2-3 questions at the beginning considered not recoverable?
(2) I didn’t do well in the 3rd question set, maybe got 5 of 9 correct, so I missed 4. Hypothetically speaking, say I got 3 of those 4 right, at that point I would have got 8 of the 9 correct in the 3rd section also. At that point, I had 8 of 9 correct in the 2nd section, 8 of 9 correct in the 3rd section (hypothetically), and 8 of 9 correct in the 4th section. I would consider that doing exceptionally well, a score worthy in the 80th+ percentile. So did missing 3 questions in the 3rd problem set, completely tank my score to the 45th percentile?
This is not say that the test is adaptive and that you got the score that reflects your true capability. This is just to say that the test is adaptive, and that you probably just underperformed on test day.
21 Jul 2017, 01:14
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jasonfodor I haven't took any mocks or GMAT actual test as of now but I would like to throw some light on your score 45 in QA.
As per the graph provided by you, I can see that you did mistake in probably 3 out of 10 questions in the first section which was a pool of below 600 level questions. This gave you a lazy start. Then you did well in 2nd section and build the score but in the 3rd section you started doing mistake and did wrong in about 4 questions out of 9 . This was the chance to counter your lazy start but this mistake costed you so much that after 3rd section you never get any harder questions ans continued to give same level questions.
So what to depict from this, First 10 questions is very important and more important than last 10 questions.
Avoid silly mistakes in easy questions as much as possible and take time to recheck. A silly mistake in a simple question will cost you more than anything else.
I hope this was a bad day for you. So don't worry . keep studying and solving questions with a timer and you will get your actual score of around 50-51.
Don't forget to check this scientific analysis showing how the first 10 questions become very important in the GMAT test.
https://gmatclub.com/forum/un-scientifi ... 64970.html
As per the graph provided by you, I can see that you did mistake in probably 3 out of 10 questions in the first section which was a pool of below 600 level questions. This gave you a lazy start. Then you did well in 2nd section and build the score but in the 3rd section you started doing mistake and did wrong in about 4 questions out of 9 . This was the chance to counter your lazy start but this mistake costed you so much that after 3rd section you never get any harder questions ans continued to give same level questions.
So what to depict from this, First 10 questions is very important and more important than last 10 questions.
Avoid silly mistakes in easy questions as much as possible and take time to recheck. A silly mistake in a simple question will cost you more than anything else.
I hope this was a bad day for you. So don't worry . keep studying and solving questions with a timer and you will get your actual score of around 50-51.
Don't forget to check this scientific analysis showing how the first 10 questions become very important in the GMAT test.
https://gmatclub.com/forum/un-scientifi ... 64970.html
