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Should I keep score: 680 (Q49, V34, IR5) after 710 (Q48, V38, IR 8) Updated on: 21 Oct 2019, 05:30
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Hi

I recently gave my 4th GMAT attempt. Honestly I haven't invested as much time studying as one would generally for GMAT by the 4th attempt. I guess I could attribute it to a mix of stupid overconfidence, self-belief and pure time constraints. My GMAT experience for the last 2 attempts as below.

3rd Attempt (mid Sep'19) - took more GMAC prep tests, e-gmat and 800gmat subscriptions but some additional international travel took away most of my prep time. Prepared diligently for 3-4 weeks starting Aug (practicing 2 hours daily). I was consistently scoring between 720-760 on all GMAC tests I took (took 4 only once). Scored 710 (Q:48, V: 38, IR: 8, AWA: 4.5). Adamant that I a can stretch to 730-750 I registered one more time. Also, since my timing was out of whack in the verbal - I finished last 60% of the verbal in 40% time.

4th Attempt (mid Oct'19) - (without additional prep). Just practiced some more questions to stay in touch with the material - no GMAC tests: Dropped to 680 (Q49, V:34, IR: 5) - Score cancelled

Thanks for any inputs!
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You can keep it or not but Schools always state that they choose the best score that is reported. Based on that theory your Q48 will be counted.
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I really don't think that there is much of a difference between Q49 and Q48 to warrant keeping the 680 score just because it has Q49. A Q48 is a very good quant score - don't let the quant percentile make you think otherwise. A 710 (especially with V38) is way better than a 680. Thus, it makes no good sense to reinstate the 680 because of a Q49.
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Hi,
You should not keep the 30 dropped GMAT score even if you scored more in Quant separately. Some schools can interpret that you crossed 710 by chance. If I would have been in place of you, I would have not kept it. Consider all the things - the quant percentile goes up from Q48 to Q49 but GMAT dropped from 710 to 680, Verbal dropped from V38 to V34 and IR dropped from 8 to 5. I strongly suggest you to leave 680. Think about overall performance.
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I recently gave my 4th GMAT attempt. Honestly I haven't invested as much time studying as one would generally for GMAT by the 4th attempt. I guess I could attribute it to a mix of stupid overconfidence, self-belief and pure time constraints. I am currently in an account management + gen. man. role in an IT company in Malaysia but am an Indian by nationality. I have 9 years' of experience. I also already hold a PGDM from a top 10 MBA program in India and have worked in strategy in one Mining and one IT services company before moving into my current role. My GMAT experience till now has been as below.

1st Attempt (mid Feb'19) without much prep except 2 GMAC Prep exams: 630 (Q:47, V: 30, IR: 3, AWA: 5) - Couldn't believe I scored so low so registered for next attempt as soon as I was back home. For reference, I had scored 1460 on GRE in 2010 so I carried the perception that I should be around 720-730 on GMAT. Also a 99+ percentiler in CAT.

2nd Attempt (early Mar'19)- no change in prep: 650 (Q:48, V: 31, IR: 7, AWA: 5) - The realisation begins to dawn that I am not prepared nor in test mode after all these years so I decide to give another attempt in a few months with more preparation

3rd Attempt (mid Sep'19) - took more GMAC prep tests, e-gmat and 800gmat subscriptions but some additional international travel took away most of my prep time. Prepared diligently for 3-4 weeks starting Aug (practicing 2 hours daily). I was consistently scoring between 720-760 on all GMAC tests I took (took 4 only once). Scored 710 (Q:48, V: 38, IR: 8, AWA: 4.5). Adamant that I a can stretch to 730-750 I registered one more time. Also, since my timing was out of whack in the verbal - I finished last 60% of the verbal in 40% time.

4th Attempt (mid Oct'19) - (without additional prep). Just practiced some more questions to stay in touch with the material - no GMAC tests: Dropped to 680 (Q49, V:34, IR: 5) - Score cancelled

Given my score, I am targeting top 10-20 MBA programs in US excl. M-7 (as I don't think I have a shot with this score). I am also only interested in mostly one year programs. Given my background & scoring pattern, does it make sense to reinstate the most recent score since that is the only one in which my Quant touched 49. Essentially, is a 30 point drop in overall score (and IR drop from 7 to 5) worth the rise in Quant? Honestly, the computer started throwing really easy ones mid-way in verbal and I ended up finishing the section with time to spare! I knew I was screwed. This impacted both IR and AWA performance too.

Thanks for any inputs!
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RoWin - Congratulations on improving to 710!! Keep the 710 score to maximize your chances of securing an admit. With median scores at many schools exceeding beyond 720, top schools these days require higher scores. Take a look at this article below to learn more about those stats:

https://e-gmat.com/blogs/a-gmat-score-o ... 0k-in-roi/

Improving beyond 710
Improving beyond 710 required focused effort (30 to 50 hours). You need to identify 2-3 areas you need to work on. In your case, it would likely be two areas in Quant and one in Verbal. Once isolated, do the following:

1. Define metrics that would indicate improvement.
2. Work on those areas.
3. Track metrics.

Take a look at the article below to learn more about those metrics.
https://gmatclub.com/forum/what-causes- ... 08108.html
One more thing - improving from Q48 to Q50 is about quality and not quantity. Don't go solving hundreds of questions.

Watch how Jim did the same
Jim improved from 700 to 770 by following the process outlined above. Take a look at his success story.

https://gmatclub.com/forum/trust-the-pr ... 07942.html

Read how he analyzes a sentence, not only when he makes a mistake, but also when he gets it right. This same process applies to quant as well.

I hope the above gives you more food for thought and a more definite direction as to how to move forward.
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Should I keep score: 680 (Q49, V34, IR5) after 710 (Q48, V38, IR 8) 21 Oct 2019, 09:40
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Cancelling 680 is absolutely wise decision. Schools won't see that 680 in your score report if cancelled.

Btw if don't cancel that 680, it will appear in the score report sent to schools and the schools may unfavourably interpret that your performance is fluctuative (30 point reduction is meaningful).

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Should I keep score: 680 (Q49, V34, IR5) after 710 (Q48, V38, IR 8) 21 Oct 2019, 20:44
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Hi RoWin,

First off, your prior 710/Q48 is an outstanding Score, so you can comfortably apply to any Business Schools that interest you. As such, another retest might not be necessary. Depending on the Schools that you plan to apply to, you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/ask-admissio ... tants-124/

There's no harm in continuing to study though - and you're actually closer to a 730+ than you probably realize - so if you do choose to retest, then we have to examine your prior studies in more detail first. Once you've decided on whether to retest or not, you should post back here (or you can PM me directly) and we can talk through your study options going forward.

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Hi RoWin,

I don’t see any reason to keep the 680. I think that all you need to show is the 710.

Good luck with things moving forward.
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