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The Jamaican Senate has determined that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel, while the opposition's leader can only appoint eight.

(A) that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(B) that the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(C) the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to it's panel

(D) thirteen members' appointment to its panel be tasked with the prime minister

(E) he is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel - the prime minister


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The Jamaican Senate has determined that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel, while the opposition's leader can only appoint eight.

(A) that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(B) that the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(C) the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to it's panel

(D) thirteen members' appointment to its panel be tasked with the prime minister

(E) he is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel - the prime minister


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Demand is a bossy word requiring a subjunctive usage, demand x that y be z, hence answer must be (A)
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The Jamaican Senate has determined that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel, while the opposition's leader can only appoint eight.

(A) that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(B) that the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(C) the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to it's panel

(D) thirteen members' appointment to its panel be tasked with the prime minister

(E) he is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel - the prime minister


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IMO A
Subjunctive sentence ; usage of verbs 'be' correct in sentence..
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I'm confused here. Isn't appointed to is used rather than with

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The Jamaican Senate has determined that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel, while the opposition's leader can only appoint eight.

(A) that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(B) that the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(C) the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to it's panel

(D) thirteen members' appointment to its panel be tasked with the prime minister

(E) he is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel - the prime minister

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I'm confused here. Isn't appointed to is used rather than with

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Shreshtha55 , yes, "appointed to" is correct.

I'm not sure how you're getting the idea that appoint in any form or in any of the options is followed by "with."

Take a look at Abhishek009 's post. I think that you may be focused on the wrong verb.

Hope that helps. :-)
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The Jamaican Senate has determined that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel, while the opposition's leader can only appoint eight.

(A) that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(B) that the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(C) the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to it's panel

(D) thirteen members' appointment to its panel be tasked with the prime minister

(E) he is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel - the prime minister


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we are differentiating 13 members to 8 members here. So, in non-underlined part, the arrangement of words should be "can appoint only 8" not "can only appoint 8". I may be wrong! Please correct me if i am wrong, expert.
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The Jamaican Senate has determined that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel, while the opposition's leader can only appoint eight.

(A) that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(B) that the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(C) the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to it's panel

(D) thirteen members' appointment to its panel be tasked with the prime minister

(E) he is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel - the prime minister


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we are differentiating 13 members to 8 members here. So, in non-underlined part, the arrangement of words should be "can appoint only 8" not "can only appoint 8". I may be wrong! Please correct me if i am wrong, expert.
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There's a fair amount of disagreement out there about how important the placement of "only" is. Many of us (myself included) allow a fair amount of flexibility. Others insist that "only" touch the exact word it is meant to apply to, or at least that it come as close as possible.

Since the question doesn't give us the option to put "only" next to "eight," clearly the author wasn't concerned about this. Would the GMAT use "only" in this way? I can't say for sure. If anyone wants to dig up some examples, we can go over them, but I'd suggest a little leeway here unless we see a clear split in the use of only. Certainly, if the only significant difference between two answers were "only appoint eight" or "appoint only eight," I'd go for the latter.
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I'm not sure if the word 'determined' used in this sentence falls under the category of "ask","suggest","insist", or "demand" that mandates the usage of base form of verb after the word "that", hence it is not subjective clause.Option A is ruled out.

Options C,D&E does not use the word ' that' after determined,hence incorrect.

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As the sentence uses perfect past participle, so the rest of the sentence must be in the same tence.

Option B incorrectly uses is tasked, so is option C.

Option D incorrectly uses noun action instead of Verb.
Option E is conveys incorrect meaning.

So option A is grammatically correct and meaningful.

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The Jamaican Senate has determined that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel, while the opposition's leader can only appoint eight.

(A) that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(B) that the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel

(C) the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to it's panel

(D) thirteen members' appointment to its panel be tasked with the prime minister

(E) he is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel - the prime minister


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Where is the verb, demand or demanded in any of the choices? There is only has determined in the non-underlined part, holding good for all the five choices.
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Official Explanation :

The original sentence may sound awkward, it is indeed correct as written. The sentence correctly uses the subjunctive tense for determined that...be tasked. The idiomatic construction here is tasked with.

Choice (B) replaces be with is, resulting in an incorrect subjunctive structure.

Choice (C) eliminates that, has is instead of be, and also fiddles with the possessive pronoun its.

Choice (D) and (E) eliminate that. The correct answer is (A).
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Where is the verb, demand or demanded in any of the choices? There is only has determined in the non-underlined part, holding good for all the five choices.


"DEMAND/DEMANDED" is not in any of choices.
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Where is the verb, demand or demanded in any of the choices? There is only has determined in the non-underlined part, holding good for all the five choices.


"DEMAND/DEMANDED" is not in any of choices.

ammuseeru , I think that daagh means to say that Abhishek wrote "demand" in his answer but "demand" is NOT in the question.

I could be mistaken about that comment.

Incidentally,
The question does not require that "demand" or a synonym be used.

The verb determine also often takes the subjunctive.

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Verbs that are often followed by "that" clauses with subjunctive verbs:
announce, ask, as if, as though, demand, determine, indicate,
insist, move, order, prefer, propose, recommend, request, require, and suggest.

From Grammar Handbook: Verb Mood , online at Center for Writing Studies, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champagne, HERE, accessed Feb 2, 2019.

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These are verbs typically followed by clauses that take the subjunctive:
ask, demand, determine, insist, move, order, pray, prefer, recommend, regret, request, require, suggest, and wish.


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I also fell for this and marked B. I thought the tone of the word determine is NOT SUBJUNCTIVE .
Hence I rejected A.

But you mentioned that it can be used as a bossy verb. Is that correct?? Is the OA A correct??
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I also fell for this and marked B. I thought the tone of the word determine is NOT SUBJUNCTIVE .
Hence I rejected A.

But you mentioned that it can be used as a bossy verb. Is that correct?? Is the OA A correct??

warrior1991 , yes, determine takes the subjunctive.

In my post above, if you look at the (inexhaustive) list of verbs that both grammar sites identify as often used in the subjunctive construction, you will see that not all of them are "bossy."

I included links.

Suggest, for example, is a bossy verb that does not, well, boss in the way that the word demand "bosses."

Regret, which is not bossy, also frequently takes the subjunctive.

Determine often takes the subjunctive, and the OA (Option A) is correct. :-)
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Thanks for the new info; I did not know that 'determine' is included in the list of the subjunctive verbs.

The second thing was the implication of the Word 'Senate'. I used to think that Prime Minister is usually the supreme authority and that nobody could bind him. On the contrary, it looks as though the Jamaican Senate can mandate the P.M. This is also new information to me.
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why the answer is A and not B?

surbhi1991 And why do you think the answer is B, and not A, please elaborate - this makes us understand where the clarity is needed.
Moreover, for why "A and not B" please check the thread from the top.


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why the answer is A and not B?

Hi surbhi1991.

Given that there is nothing clearly grammatically incorrect in (B), you ask a great question.

Here is the sentence created via the use of (B).

The Jamaican Senate has determined that the prime minister is tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel, while the opposition's leader can only appoint eight.

Because that sentence uses the indicative voice wording "is tasked," that sentence conveys that the Senate has figured out that the prime minister IS tasked with appointing thirteen members.

While that scenario is possible, it's not likely that the point of the sentence would be that the Senate has, say, investigated and figured out how the government works.

Here's the sentence created via the use of (A).

The Jamaican Senate has determined that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members to its panel, while the opposition's leader can only appoint eight.

Because that sentence uses the subjunctive voice wording "be tasked," that sentence conveys that the Senate has, basically, made a command, the command that the prime minister be tasked with appointing thirteen members.

This scenario is much more likely than the one described by the sentence created via the use of (B).

Having said all that, I would add that this is not an official question, and choice (B) in this question is not quite as incorrect as an incorrect answers to official GMAT Sentence Correction questions generally are, as what the version created via the use of (B) conveys is, while unlikely, certainly not impossible.
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