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I'm sorry but I don't see any reference to forest preservation in the stem.
Why are we even considering it?
What if after every mining session, the company was obligated to restore it to perfect condition and to plant new trees?
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The removal of hillsides and mountaintops, necessary for mining companies to extract coal quickly from deeply-buried seams, destroys forests. Experts therefore recommend that coal be extracted using time-consuming deep bore techniques.

Because public opinion opposes coal mining, some states now allow mining companies to extract coal from any particular site for only a short period of time.

The statements above, if true, best support which of the following conclusions?




Premise 1 : quickly Extracting coal destroys forest.Experts suggest some time consuming technique which will prevent forests.
Premise 2: Because of public opinion poll, some State allow to extract for short period of time

Clearly, There is a deadlock situation and both the parties cannot be happy at the same time.

Mining companies will continue to be able to extract coal using deep bore techniques but not by removing hillsides or mountaintops.
Incorrect.The question stem just provided the fact and didn't gave any opinion/result of the debate so this information cant be inferred.
The only way to preserve forests on hillsides and mountaintops is to stop coal mining.
Incorrect. Stopping coal mining could be a way but definitely not the ONLY way.
New mining techniques will be developed to make it possible to extract coal quickly without removing hillsides or mountaintops.
Incorrect.There is no hint about new tech in the argument so rejected.
Public opinion regarding coal mining works against forest preservation efforts.
Correct. Experts oppose technique which destroy forests so they are putting effort for forest preservation.However, Public opinion poll opposes experts technique.
Allowing mining companies to extract coal from any particular site for only a short period of time is unlikely to be a successful response to public opinion.
Incorrect.The ques stem only suggests that Public opinion poll opposes but the above statement is too strong that it suggests that Public wants to completely ban coal mining to be successful.
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I'm sorry but I don't see any reference to forest preservation in the stem.

As per the question stem, Coal mining companies do X....which destroys forests. Experts therefore recommend
Clearly, Experts oppose technique which destroy forests in other words they are putting effort for forest preservation.
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Why are we even considering it?

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What if after every mining session, the company was obligated to restore it to perfect condition and to plant new trees?

You are a very positive person who consider coal companies envro friendly :) You are assuming too much.There is nothing in the question stem that says/hints about this.
Please let me know if i am not able to explain.
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I'm sorry but I don't see any reference to forest preservation in the stem.
Why are we even considering it?
What if after every mining session, the company was obligated to restore it to perfect condition and to plant new trees?


Hello ron34.

Premise 1: To protect forests, experts recommend that coal be extracted using time-consuming deep bore techniques. --> It means techniques extracting coal in short period of time are not favorable in protecting forests.

Premise 2: Because public opinion opposes coal mining, some states now allow mining companies to extract coal from any particular site for only a short period of time. --> It means if companies can use techniques that can extract coal in a short period of time, public opinion will agree.

Clearly, the public opinion works against the forest preservation efforts. (time-consuming >< short period of time).

Hope it helps.
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ronr34 wrote:
I'm sorry but I don't see any reference to forest preservation in the stem.
Why are we even considering it?
What if after every mining session, the company was obligated to restore it to perfect condition and to plant new trees?


Hello ron34.

Premise 1: To protect forests, experts recommend that coal be extracted using time-consuming deep bore techniques. --> It means techniques extracting coal in short period of time are not favorable in protecting forests.

Premise 2: Because public opinion opposes coal mining, some states now allow mining companies to extract coal from any particular site for only a short period of time. --> It means if companies can use techniques that can extract coal in a short period of time, public opinion will agree.

Clearly, the public opinion works against the forest preservation efforts. (time-consuming >< short period of time).

Hope it helps.

So why not choose option (e)?
"Allowing mining companies to extract coal from any particular site for only a short period of time is unlikely to be a successful response to public opinion."
Since only allowed to mine for a short period of time, there will be much more damage, and this will have a negative effect on public opinion... No?
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I feel that the OA is incorrect or the argument is not well formed

public opinion opposes coal mining (i.e. in favor of forest preservation). But states took the decision to allow coal mining for a short period only..

so if public opinion opposes coal mining then there is no risk against forest preservation hence the official answer is incorrect and hard to digest for me.
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ronr34 wrote:
I'm sorry but I don't see any reference to forest preservation in the stem.
Why are we even considering it?
What if after every mining session, the company was obligated to restore it to perfect condition and to plant new trees?


Hello ron34.

Premise 1: To protect forests, experts recommend that coal be extracted using time-consuming deep bore techniques. --> It means techniques extracting coal in short period of time are not favorable in protecting forests.

Premise 2: Because public opinion opposes coal mining, some states now allow mining companies to extract coal from any particular site for only a short period of time. --> It means if companies can use techniques that can extract coal in a short period of time, public opinion will agree.

Clearly, the public opinion works against the forest preservation efforts. (time-consuming >< short period of time).

Hope it helps.



this is where i am confused, if public opinion is against coal mining, but government allows companies to mine for a short period of time, then that should have been explicitly mentioned in option D.

option D says that pubic opinion is against forest conservation, this makes it applicable for both short term as well as long term. But the stem talks only about short term.
isnt option D to general to comment about the public opinion ??
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I feel that the OA is incorrect or the argument is not well formed

public opinion opposes coal mining (i.e. in favor of forest preservation). But states took the decision to allow coal mining for a short period only..

so if public opinion opposes coal mining then there is no risk against forest preservation hence the official answer is incorrect and hard to digest for me.


Be careful. It's not stated that the public is in favor of forest preservation.
The public does not favor mining. It does not mean that forest preservation is the reason behind the public's disapproval of mining.
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Ignore the first part and concentrate on the second

Public does not like coal mining at all. So, Government compromises by allowing the company's to mine only for a short period of time and not more than that

But, if the mining companies are allowed to extract only for a short period of time, they cannot implement the deep bore technique as it is time consuming. So, they have to use the faster techniques which cause deforestation

This is what option D restates

As for option E, there are a couple of questionable facts

For one, public is opposed to all kinds of mining right? And even in amidst of it, Government is allowing the mining. Here, why are they not giving permission to deep bore techniques which is not as damaging to environment?

The answer is that public is discriminant against all kinds of mining. That is, public already has a negative opinion of mining. The only way to keep the public happy is not to implement the mining at all. If Government implements mining, no matter what they do, public will not be happy with it
So, its not that that the public might be unhappy, the public will be unhappy. There is no unambiguity there.

Hence by comparison, D is clearer than E
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Quickly and short time period are both relative terms and can be or cannot be equal.

Quickly in terms of mining companies can be 3 months and for public short time period could be 3 yrs compared to other coal mines which run for 25 to 40 yrs.

So Option D cannot be concluded just based on relative terms.

Option A clearly says, mining companies can take coal using other longer method that could take longer but lesser than short period mentioned by public.


Am I missing some thing? Please help.
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I would consider option D via PoE.

However, the formatting on this question seem to be a little off.

Maybe one of the mods is able to adjust this accordingly.
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jagdeepsingh1983 wrote:
The removal of hillsides and mountaintops, necessary for mining companies to extract coal quickly from deeply-buried seams, destroys forests. Experts therefore recommend that coal be extracted using time-consuming deep bore techniques.

Because public opinion opposes coal mining, some states now allow mining companies to extract coal from any particular site for only a short period of time.

The statements above, if true, best support which of the following conclusions?


Mining companies will continue to be able to extract coal using deep bore techniques but not by removing hillsides or mountaintops.

The only way to preserve forests on hillsides and mountaintops is to stop coal mining.

New mining techniques will be developed to make it possible to extract coal quickly without removing hillsides or mountaintops.

Public opinion regarding coal mining works against forest preservation efforts.

Allowing mining companies to extract coal from any particular site for only a short period of time is unlikely to be a successful response to public opinion.

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I would rather pick E.

Public in just against mining, and it is the state's decision to allow coal quickly.

Option D states Public opinion is against forest preservation efforts, and in correctly compares the two things. It would have been the correct answer if it were 'State Govt. action works against forest preservation efforts'.

Let me know if my understanding is incorrect.
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