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While some propose to combat widespread illegal copying of computer programs by attempting to change people's attitudes toward pirating, others by suggesting reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others by calling for the prosecution of those who copy software illegally.

(A) by suggesting reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others by calling
(B) by suggesting the reduction of software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others call
(C) suggest the reduction of software prices for decreasing the incentive for pirating, and still others call
(D) suggest the reduction of software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others by calling
(E) suggest reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others are calling



1. Between C and E, We need to use "To" to express intention. Is there any other differences that might make the option C
wrong?
2. What is the differences between "suggest the reduction of" and "suggest reducing software prices"?

3. "Some propose..., other suggest, and other are calling" Is it absolutely alright in terms of parallelism?


I am also having same doubt you mentioned at bullet 3..
I dont know who the following structure is acceptable specially in GMAT.. :shock: :shock: :shock:
simple present, simple present and present continuous?

Can someone help?


There is no problem with different tenses in parallel. The sentence has 3 clauses in parallel - the individual tenses of the verbs need NOT be same - theoretically it is alright.

I generally go to school, but now I am going to a pub... this is absolutely correct.
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Thank you. Please explain this one too...

What is the differences between "suggest the reduction of" and "suggest reducing software prices"?


The suggestion is for taking up an action - a gerund is closer to a verb (i.e. an action) than a concrete noun is. Hence "suggest reducing prices " should be preferable to "suggest the reduction".
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Thank you. Please explain this one too...

What is the differences between "suggest the reduction of" and "suggest reducing software prices"?


The suggestion is for taking up an action - a gerund is closer to a verb (i.e. an action) than a concrete noun is. Hence "suggest reducing prices " should be preferable to "suggest the reduction".



So here we are applying V-A-N diagram; Verb is preferable to adjective, and adjective is preferable to Noun. As (V+ing) form is closer to verb, it is also preferable to Adjective and noun.
I think now it is clear to me. Thank you :)
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Thank you. Please explain this one too...

What is the differences between "suggest the reduction of" and "suggest reducing software prices"?


The suggestion is for taking up an action - a gerund is closer to a verb (i.e. an action) than a concrete noun is. Hence "suggest reducing prices " should be preferable to "suggest the reduction".



So here we are applying V-A-N diagram; Verb is preferable to adjective, and adjective is preferable to Noun. As (V+ing) form is closer to verb, it is also preferable to Adjective and noun.
I think now it is clear to me. Thank you :)


Not exactly, both are nouns - the VAN rule is applicable when the parts of speech are different. There are cases where a concrete noun is preferable to a gerund, and when you apply this rule (this is not though), you will be wrong.

An action is closer to gerund - since an action is meant, a gerund is preferred: this is my reasoning, not the VAN rule.
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does "others are calling " in E seem bit awkward as compared to the rest of the sentence?
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does "others are calling " in E seem bit awkward as compared to the rest of the sentence?



Simple present would probably be better, but using present continuous is grammatically not wrong, and meaning is also alright.
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suggest can be used only in two forms: "suggest that..." OR suggest+gerund. So, A and E remains

E more parallel


No, this is not correct. The verb "suggest" CAN take a noun as object.

My professor suggested the topic... correct.

(Moreover suggest can also take an infinitive: I suggest you not to leave)
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While some propose to combat widespread illegal copying of computer programs by attempting to change people's attitudes toward pirating, others by suggesting reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others by calling for the prosecution of those who copy software illegally.

(A) by suggesting reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others by calling
(B) by suggesting the reduction of software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others call
(C) suggest the reduction of software prices for decreasing the incentive for pirating, and still others call
(D) suggest the reduction of software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others by calling
(E) suggest reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others are calling

GMATNinjaTwo Could you help to explain "the reduction of" vs "reducing" & "call" vs "are calling" in answers (C) and (E)?
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While some propose to combat widespread illegal copying of computer programs by attempting to change people's attitudes toward pirating, others by suggesting reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others by calling for the prosecution of those who copy software illegally.

(A) by suggesting reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others by calling
(B) by suggesting the reduction of software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others call
(C) suggest the reduction of software prices for decreasing the incentive for pirating, and still others call
(D) suggest the reduction of software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others by calling
(E) suggest reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others are calling

GMATNinjaTwo Could you help to explain "the reduction of" vs "reducing" & "call" vs "are calling" in answers (C) and (E)?


"Reducing" and "Reduction":
For depicting a sense of taking some action, gerund suits better (though a concrete noun is gramatically not incorrect). Moroever "the" in option C is incorrect. The article should be "a".

"Call" and "are calling":
Both are gramatically alright in my opinion.
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While some propose to combat widespread illegal copying of computer programs by attempting to change people's attitudes toward pirating, others by suggesting reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others by calling for the prosecution of those who copy software illegally.

(A) by suggesting reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others by calling

(B) by suggesting the reduction of software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others call

(C) suggest the reduction of software prices for decreasing the incentive for pirating, and still others call

(D) suggest the reduction of software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others by calling

(E) suggest reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others are calling
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Could you help me understand why is Option E preferred to Option C.
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Could you help me understand why is Option E preferred to Option C.



Hello SafalSharma,

I will be glad to help you with this one. :-)

Let's take a look at Choice C:

suggest the reduction of software prices for decreasing the incentive for pirating, and still others call: Incorrect

i. This choice is incorrect for the usage of for decreasing. Per the context of the sentence, the purpose of reducing software prices is to decrease the incentive for pirating. Hence, the correct phrase is to decrease to show the purpose/intent.


Let's look at Choice E now:

suggest reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others are calling: Correct

This choice is correct for maintaining parallelism among the structures - some propose, others suggest, and others are calling. I do agree that the last verb can very well be written in simple present tense. However, this is the only grammatically as well as logically correct answer choice.


Hope this helps. :-)
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I agree with Eden. Certainly this is not a topic that will stand good to common reasoning, especially the way non-natives like me have been taught to look at parallelism. The three verbs in tandem are the present tense- propose, suggest and are calling-, as found in E, although the third verb is a bit of a baffle in that it is a present progressive. But considering that the other nearest choice C, which maintains almost equal parallelism among all the three verbs under question, has serious idiomatic flaws such as ‘for decreasing’, we have to grudgingly reconcile to Choice E.
Choice A is a fragment; B and D fault on parallelism.

This is as far as I could go on this. Incidentally, was this choice ever carried over from OG 10 to OG 11 and then on to OG 12? I doubt.



As it is given in option C,if for decresing is wrong than for pirating should also be wrong.But that is not case.Parallel stucture is not maintained in C.

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Could you help me understand why is Option E preferred to Option C.



Hello SafalSharma,

I will be glad to help you with this one. :-)

Let's take a look at Choice C:

suggest the reduction of software prices for decreasing the incentive for pirating, and still others call: Incorrect

i. This choice is incorrect for the usage of for decreasing. Per the context of the sentence, the purpose of reducing software prices is to decrease the incentive for pirating. Hence, the correct phrase is to decrease to show the purpose/intent.


Let's look at Choice E now:

suggest reducing software prices to decrease the incentive for pirating, and still others are calling: Correct

This choice is correct for maintaining parallelism among the structures - some propose, others suggest, and others are calling. I do agree that the last verb can very well be written in simple present tense. However, this is the only grammatically as well as logically correct answer choice.


Hope this helps. :-)
Thanks.
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Could you please tell us why for decresing is wrong while for pirating is correct.

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