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# 2016 OG: Although there is no record of poet Edmund Spenser's parentag

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Although there is no record of poet Edmund Spenser's parentage, we do know that as a youth Spenser attended the Merchant Tailors' School in London for a period between 1560 and 1570. Records from this time indicate that the Merchant Tailors' Guild then had only three members named Spenser: Robert Spenser, listed as a gentleman; Nicholas Spenser, elected the Guild's Warden in 1568; and John Spenser, listed as a "journeyman cloth-maker." Of these, the last was likely the least affluent of the three—and most likely Edmund's father, since school accounting records list Edmund as a scholar who attended the school at a reduced fee.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(A) Anybody in sixteenth century London who made clothing professionally would have had to be a member of the Merchant Tailors' Guild.
(B) The fact that Edmund Spenser attended the Merchant Tailors' School did not necessarily mean that he planned to become a tailor.
(C) No member of the Guild could become Guild warden in sixteenth century London unless he was a gentleman.
(D) Most of those whose fathers were members of the Merchant Tailors' Guild were students at the Merchant Tailors' School.
(E) The Merchant Tailors' School did not reduce its fees for the children of the more affluent Guild members.
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Type: Assumption
Boil It Down: Attend at reduced fee -> Edmund’s father was the least affluent of the 3
Missing Information: There is no other reason than being poorer that the fee would have been reduced. The reasoning also assumes: child at Tailors’ School -> Parent in Tailors’ Guild
Goal: Find the option that presents information this argument requires for the logic to hold.

Analysis: This prompt leaves out a great deal of information in the evidence, such as how we magically are left to assume a connection between Edmund Spencer’s attendance at the school and that Edmund’s father would have to be a member of the guild. The prompt also presumes that Edmund went to the school on a reduced fee because he came from a lesser affluent household, and that based on that assumption, Edmund’s father would have had to have been John because he was the least affluent of the three Spensers.

We’re not concerned with ANYONE who made clothing professionally having to be a member of the guild, we’re concerned with the notion that: student is at the school → The father was a member of the guild. This option goes way too extreme.

Whether Edmund did or did not plan to become a tailor is in no way something that this argument hinges on. The argument works either way, so this couldn’t be an assumption made in this argument.

The argument doesn’t hinge on the parameters for someone to become a guild warden. TOTALLY irrelevant.

This option gets it backwards. The argument isn’t assuming that if you had a father in the Guild, that you were a student. It’s that if you were a student, then you had a father in the guild.

Yes! This option is absolutely assumed by the reasoning. The argument requires that only those who came from a lesser affluent family would receive a fee reduction, or in other words, the school did not reduce its fees for those who were more affluent. Let’s say that the school was also willing to reduce fees for academic merit? Then the whole argument that we can use the fee reduction to say that Edmund’s father had to have been the least affluent of the three collapses.
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16 Sep 2015, 12:54
why not D， i think it is necessary for people to choose a person in MT guild.
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why not D， i think it is necessary for people to choose a person in MT guild.

Hi qwepoi,

Beyond the explanation above, this is an assumption question. As with all question types on the GMAT, having a VERY clear understanding of the type of information the question is asking for is central.

An assumption is a piece of missing information that has to be true for the logic of the argument to work. So here, does it need to be true that: Most of those whose fathers were members of the Merchant Tailors' Guild were students at the Merchant Tailors' School?

No. For the argument to work, we just need ONE case. The argument does require all or even most. The argument still works either way, so since this option is not essential for the argument to work, it's gone.

Compare that to option E) The argument's logic absolutely rests on the notion that The Merchant Tailors' School did not reduce its fees for the children of the more affluent Guild members because if the guild did reduce its fees for the more affluent, then there would be no way to make the leap that Edmund's father was the journeyman cloth-maker.
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18 Jan 2017, 22:39
For assumption problems, always look to negate the A/C and see how it relates to the conclusion

C: Edmund attended the school at a reduced fee, IMPLYING THAT HE COULDN'T AFFORD TO GO OTHERWISE.

When you negate A/C "C", it reads:
(E) The Merchant Tailors' School did reduce its fees for the children of the more affluent Guild members
- If the MTS reduced its fees for affluent Guild members, you cannot assume that Edmund attended the school at a reduced fee b/c he couldn't afford it...the thinking is: if Spenser was affluent, he may have attended at a reduced fee
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01 Apr 2017, 02:33
How we can solve this problem by applying negation technique as I don't see any conclusion in following argument?
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Although there is no record of poet Edmund Spenser's parentage, we do know that as a youth Spenser attended the Merchant Tailors' School in London for a period between 1560 and 1570. Records from this time indicate that the Merchant Tailors' Guild then had only three members named Spenser: Robert Spenser, listed as a gentleman; Nicholas Spenser, elected the Guild's Warden in 1568; and John Spenser, listed as a "journeyman cloth-maker." Of these, the last was likely the least affluent of the three—and most likely Edmund's father, since school accounting records list Edmund as a scholar who attended the school at a reduced fee.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(A) Anybody in sixteenth century London who made clothing professionally would have had to be a member of the Merchant Tailors' Guild.
(B) The fact that Edmund Spenser attended the Merchant Tailors' School did not necessarily mean that he planned to become a tailor.
(C) No member of the Guild could become Guild warden in sixteenth century London unless he was a gentleman.
(D) Most of those whose fathers were members of the Merchant Tailors' Guild were students at the Merchant Tailors' School.
(E) The Merchant Tailors' School did not reduce its fees for the children of the more affluent Guild members.

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guild (noun) = an organization of people who do the same job or have the same interests

Edmund Spenser

Step 1: Identify the Question

The word assumption in the question stem indicates that this is a Find the Assumption question.

Step 2: Deconstruct the Argument

No record ES parents, but he attended MT school
3 possible parents
Conclusion: ES paid less \$, so dad was probably the least rich guy

This argument is basically a sleuth’s attempt to figure out who Edmund’s dad was. What is the author assuming when reaching this conclusion? First, he’s assuming that the journeyman member actually was the least affluent. Second, he’s assuming that the reduced fee Edmund paid was a result of some poverty, but that’s not necessarily true. What if, for example, one of the perks of being the Guild’s Warden was that you didn’t have to pay as much for your son to attend the school? The author is also assuming that one of these three is Edmund’s father; perhaps he was an orphan or his father had a different last name for some reason.

sleuth (noun) = someone whose job is to discover information about crimes and find out who is responsible for them

Step 3: Pause and State the Goal

On assumption questions, the goal is to find an answer that the author must believe to be true in drawing his conclusion.

Step 4: Work from Wrong to Right

(A) The argument revolves around the likely father of Edmund Spenser, not whether professional tailors were required to be members of the Guild.
(B) The author’s argument does not revolve around what Edmund eventually did for a living.
(C) The argument does not assume that the Guild Warden must also have been a gentleman, only that he was not the least affluent of the three potential fathers of Edmund.
(D) This choice goes too far. While the author is assuming that Edmund’s father was a member of the Guild, he does not have to assume that most members enrolled their children in the school.
(E) CORRECT. The author concludes that, because Edmund paid a reduced fee, his father is likely the least affluent. He is assuming that the more affluent members would not have paid reduced fees for their children.
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17 Apr 2017, 22:26
anairamitch1804 wrote:
How we can solve this problem by applying negation technique as I don't see any conclusion in following argument?

Hi Anaira,

There is indeed a conclusion in the argument. Let's try to locate the same:

Although there is no record of poet Edmund Spenser's parentage, we do know that as a youth Spenser attended the Merchant Tailors' School in London for a period between 1560 and 1570. - FACT

Records from this time indicate that the Merchant Tailors' Guild then had only three members named Spenser: Robert Spenser, listed as a gentleman; Nicholas Spenser, elected the Guild's Warden in 1568; and John Spenser, listed as a "journeyman cloth-maker." - FACT based observation

Of these, the last was likely the least affluent of the three— OPINION given by the author

and most likely Edmund's father, - OPINION given by the author

since school accounting records list Edmund as a scholar who attended the school at a reduced fee. - FACT advanced as the reason for the second opinion given by the author

Now, when we have two opinions given by the author and both of them go in the same direction, then we need to follow the steps below in order to determine the conclusion:

1. Determine which of the two opinions is a helper opinion - this means that the helper opinion helps the author advance the second point.
3. The helper opinion is the premise and the other is the conclusion.

Accordingly, of the following two opinions, the first is the helper opinion, and the second is the conclusion.

1. Of these, the last was likely the least affluent of the three— OPINION given by the author TO HELP ADVANCE THE CONCLUSION BELOW

2. and most likely Edmund's father, - OPINION given by the author - CONCLUSION

Please do let me know if you have any confusion anywhere. I will be more than happy to clarify the same.

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02 May 2017, 15:17
Hi Guys,

In my opinion choice E has a gap, since the warden could have low income too, the journeyman would have no children, and other spencer students could have reduced fee. In this scenario there would be many 2 fathers related to 2 or many students; however, choice E has less gaps than letter D. Letter D must have the modifier ''All" instead of ''most''.

Am I right?

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Although there is no record of poet Edmund Spenser's parentage, we do know that as a youth Spenser attended the Merchant Tailors' School in London for a period between 1560 and 1570. Records from this time indicate that the Merchant Tailors' Guild then had only three members named Spenser: Robert Spenser, listed as a gentleman; Nicholas Spenser, elected the Guild's Warden in 1568; and John Spenser, listed as a "journeyman cloth-maker." Of these, the last was likely the least affluent of the three—and most likely Edmund's father, since school accounting records list Edmund as a scholar who attended the school at a reduced fee.

Type - assumption

(A) Anybody in sixteenth century London who made clothing professionally would have had to be a member of the Merchant Tailors' Guild.
(B) The fact that Edmund Spenser attended the Merchant Tailors' School did not necessarily mean that he planned to become a tailor.
(C) No member of the Guild could become Guild warden in sixteenth century London unless he was a gentleman.
(D) Most of those whose fathers were members of the Merchant Tailors' Guild were students at the Merchant Tailors' School.
(E) The Merchant Tailors' School did not reduce its fees for the children of the more affluent Guild members.

anairamitch1804 wrote:
How we can solve this problem by applying negation technique as I don't see any conclusion in following argument?

Hi anairamitch1804 ,
The conclusion is Of these, the last was likely the least affluent of the three—and most likely Edmund's father, since school accounting records list Edmund as a scholar who attended the school at a reduced fee.

Now , the negation of option E is The Merchant Tailors' School did reduce its fees for the children of the more affluent Guild members. If this is true , we can't conclude that just because Edmund received a fee waiver, his father was likely to least affluent.
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