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Hi,

Though less than their average GMAT scores, 710 is high and competitive. If you’re applying in R2 this year, then you’ll be better served by focusing on other components of your application.

Regarding the schools considering sub scores from different GMAT scores, schools generally consider the sub scores of your highest score.

I'm considering applying R1 next year, so I would have time. I think I've heard that many schools super score the results, not just take the scores of the one highest score. Can anyone clarify?

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Generally schools will take the highest score so I would not bet on them super scoring your scores for you. If you are applying R1 next year then you will have the time. The question is there something else you can do or a lever you can push to score higher as it seems you are bumping up against your max. I would alternative preparation if you are going to apply again given how much time you have put into this already
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Yes I think it would be worth it for you to go for it one more time, but my question for you would be, how are you changing up your strategy? The people who do better on the GMAT are people who initiate new actions and new strategies. So give that some consideration. If it doesn't work out for you the fourth time then I would just switch gears and look at the GRE. The GRE is kind of a wild card because it's not factored in rankings, so if your application and your recommendations are strong then they'll let you in without any penalties to the school if you go to GRE route. So I think that might be something to consider. I agree with everything t ADMIT said as far as making sure that you're looking at the big picture here doing the app well, which is greatly undervalued. most people don't really have an objective pair of eyes. I don't know how people apply to top schools without a consultant but I think that's a bad idea. I would really do a lot of introspection and spend time reflecting on your values and do a lot of the things that not everyone does but yet they are quite important when you're approaching the essays. And potentially resuscitate Community involvement and look after other aspects of your profile, start Toastmasters, a lot of Consultants are so swept up with work that they really don't have a lot to differentiate them. So you might want to make sure you're looking at the big picture, but with regards to the test I would consider the GRE if the GMAT is a no go on the 4th try.

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Hi All,

I don't know what to say besides the fact that I'm crestfallen, and was hoping for some advice here. Just as some background I have been studying for the GMAT since August 2015. I know studying over this long of a time period isn't the best, but I work in consulting and have developed a pretty good reputation as a "go-to" for my superiors; consequently, I work ~80-90 hours a week so my studying was confined to the weekends only. In September I took the GMAT for the first time and scored a 710 (Q 44; V42; IR 8; Essay 6). I was't entirely happy after receiving this score so I scheduled a retake and communicated to my superiors that I needed a little more free time to study, which they tried to oblige with. I made it my effort to study EVERY DAY no matter how late I was at work and took off four days from work preceding the date of the exam to prepare. The result of this second GMAT was 700 (Quant 47; Verbal 40; IR 8; Essay 6). My dream has been to go to Wharton or Columbia so I wanted to get my GMAT score higher. Consequently, I took more time off and took the GMAT for a third time today and scored a 710 again (Q 48, V 40; IR:8, Essay ??). I usually score 41/42 on verbal during my practice tests so these past two scores are on the lower end for me. To make matters worse, on my last three practice tests (MCAT, GMAT Prep, and GMAT Prep) I scored a 740, 710 and 740. This process has been so frustrating for me, I honestly do not feel that I did any better/worse on any of the tests and I feel like my score just seems to come from some black box.

I'm from the Philly area and it's my dream to go back for school, and I've been to Wharton sponsored networking events specific to my field and really liked everyone I met. I've also been to Columbia for similar events and enjoyed the people there, albeit I am not as close to the community yet. Although these two school have occupied most of my thoughts while studying, I looked forward to being done and exploring a majority of the top institutions to find somewhere I fit best based on feel and how their program fits into my plan, not necessarily the ranking. As corny as it sounds, a major driver of my happiness these past two years has been the dream that I will get into one of the top B schools, and the GMAT seems to be what is really going to ding me.

What do you all think, is it worth going at it a fourth time? I've studied for a little over a year and took every precaution I could to make sure this one went right, including taking the time off to get myself in the right mindset, which I do not think I can afford to do again. Additionally, my prep software expires tomorrow so it would be just books going forward if I choose to do this again. How much does having my best score on two separate tests affect my chances vs if they were on one? If I achieved a Q48, V42 on one test, I would have 730/740 which would put me where I need to be. Would taking it a fourth time look bad, especially if I end up with another 710?

In summary, do you think it's worth taking a fourth time. I've gotten a 740 twice before on tests where I simulated the testing environment so I feel like I am capable of getting there, but on the same page it's not like I was doing consistent 740s (going 740, 710, 740 in the past two weeks). I don't feel like I under-performed at all on today's test, as the practice test where I got a 710, I guess it's just a nature of which questions I get randomly given to me. How much would taking it a fourth time help/hurt me if I got a 720 on one (let's say I do Q47, V 41)? Both of these scores would be lower than ones I have gotten in the past on individual tests, but overall it's a higher single score. Thanks, and apologies for the plethora of questions. Unfortunately, the GMAT has really consumed all of my free time and I am starting to think it might be time to move on, but want to know how big of an effect one more test could have.

It seems to me that you believe that there is a chance that you could do better so yes, since you are only applying R1 next year, I do think you should retake, just to be sure that you gave it your all.

That said, though, your chances of admission really depend on the rest of your profile as well. If your profile is competitive otherwise there is of course a chance you could get admitted with the 710 as well, but as you didn’t tell us anything about that part, it’s hard to say. So unless you know for a fact that your profile is excellent and that your essays will be amazing, I’d advise you to retake just so there won’t be any “if’s” and doubts later on.

I do agree with Farrell that you should also reconsider your strategy.
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Thanks for the post so far everyone. Unfortunately I can't get a decent time to take the test until February, so I would have to continue studying for ~1.5 months minimum to stay where I am at. If you don't mind me asking, do any of you have any insight as to what the thinking would be regarding a school seeing a higher total score vs looking at the individual subscores? It's my understanding that most schools only "take" your highest single score (so in my case a 710), but they also look at all of your reported scores in the last 5 years to get a better idea of your history. Since I reported all three of my tests, they would see that I got a Q48, V42 over two separate tests, which I understand still isn't as good as a 730 on a single test, but do you think the difference in an application would be that large?

The only reason I am asking is because when taking my practice tests, I honestly felt as comfortable with my answers on the practice test I got a 710 on when compared against the ones I got a 740. I'm open to putting in another two months of studying if it'll help my profile a decent amount, but if I were to get a 720/730 with something like Q48, V41 or Q47 V42 would it make a difference as adcom will see that I had previously tested as high or higher on previous tests and was just trying to hit it on one. Thank you.