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Analysts believe that whereas bad decisions by elected leaders can certainly hurt the economy, no administration can really be said to control or manage all of the complex and interrelated forces that determine the nation's economic strength.

(A) no administration can really be said to control
(B) no administration can be said that it really controls
(C) that no administration can really be said to control
(D) that no administration can really be said that it controls
(E) that it cannot be said that any administration really controls

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The gist of the topic is the contrast that is brought out by the word ‘whereas”. It means that while the first part is negative, the admin cannot do much about it; for this the second sentence has to be an IC. By introducing the word, ‘that”, the contrast is lost and the clasue becomes anther subordinate clause

Between A an B, B suffers bad verbal parallelism in saying ‘controls or manage’. A eventually

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The gist of the topic is the contrast that is brought out by the word ‘whereas”. It means that while the first part is negative, the admin cannot do much about it; for this the second sentence has to be an IC. By introducing the word, ‘that”, the contrast is lost and the clasue becomes anther subordinate clause

Between A an B, B suffers bad verbal parallelism in saying ‘controls or manage’. A eventually

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B is also wrong because wordy

Administration and IT is a lot redundant

A question like this on the real test would need no more than 10 seconds approach

C D and E go for the usage of that after comma - have no sense in the economy of the sentence. B is wordy. A and move on

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The gist of the topic is the contrast that is brought out by the word ‘whereas”. It means that while the first part is negative, the admin cannot do much about it; for this the second sentence has to be an IC. By introducing the word, ‘that”, the contrast is lost and the clasue becomes anther subordinate clause

Between A an B, B suffers bad verbal parallelism in saying ‘controls or manage’. A eventually

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Hi daagh,

Great explanation. I had another question regarding (B). Besides the issue you pointed out, can "no administration can be said that" also be an issue. Though I can not articulate the error, it seems off.

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Analysts believe that whereas bad decisions by elected leaders can certainly hurt the economy, no administration can really be said to control or manage all of the complex and interrelated forces that determine the nation's economic strength.

Issues: Conjunction | Meaning

Analysis:
1. "whereas" in non-underlined portion is the subordinate clause and what should follow comma is an independent clause (contrasted by the sub-ordinate clause).

A. No administration can really be said to control - Correct

B. No administration can be said that it really controls
- "said that" changes the meaning of the sentence
- "it" redundant
- "controls" not parallel with non-underlined "manage" (based on non-underlined word, government here is treated as plural)


C. That no administration can really be said to control
- Usage of "that"

D. That no administration can really be said that it controls
- Usage of "that"

E. That it cannot be said that any administration really controls
- Usage of "that"
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I thought that it is not correct to write
to verb or verb - to control or manage
and the right way is to verb or to verb - to control or to manage

Am I wrong?
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Analysts believe that whereas bad decisions by elected leaders can certainly hurt the economy, no administration can really be said to control or manage all of the complex and interrelated forces that determine the nation's economic strength.

A. No administration can really be said to control (Correct)
B. No administration can be said that it really controls (Controls is not parallel with manage)
C. That no administration can really be said to control (Second part of sentence cannot start with That)
D. That no administration can really be said that it controls (Same as C)
E. That it cannot be said that any administration really controls (Same as C)

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I thought that it is not correct to write
to verb or verb - to control or manage
and the right way is to verb or to verb - to control or to manage

Am I wrong?


Hi,

In my opinion, it is not necessarily the case. For example:
Jon attends Math class to meet new friends and (to) improve his academic skills.
The word "to" before "improve" is just omitted. We can understand that "improve his academic skills" and "meet new friends" are 2 purposes of Jon attending Math class.
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I have a small doubt here- That whereas bad decision(X), No administration (Y) is the correct form. So if the format would have been this way - whereas that bad decisions (X) that no administration (Y) is this the correct form ?? Need help
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Certainly no; In a complex sentence like the one here, if the first part is a dependent clause because of the subordinate conjunction 'whereas', the following clause has to be an IC. If you start the second with a 'that', then it also turns into a DC. That will be grammatically wrong.
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Can experts comment on usage of REALLY in (A)/ (B)


Clever question! "Really" is an adverb and hence must refer to a verb. In option A,"really" refers to the verb "be said" (implying, saying cannot be real), whereas in option B "really" refers to the verb "controls" (implying, controlling cannot be real).
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Analysts believe that whereas bad decisions by elected leaders can certainly hurt the economy, no administration can really be said to control or manage all of the complex and interrelated forces that determine the nation's economic strength.

(A) no administration can really be said to control
(B) no administration can be said that it really controls
(C) that no administration can really be said to control
(D) that no administration can really be said that it controls
(E) that it cannot be said that any administration really controls

Hi guys.

Looking for a clarification and will appreciate the help.

What is the structure of the original sentence? I thought its IC, IC. Because in the first part of the sentence we have sub Analysts and verb believe. So the first part becomes an IC. Also, the second part of the sentence has the subject "administration" and the verb is "can". Therefore second part of the sentence is also an IC.

So if the construction is IC, IC. Then this construction is wrong and hence A is wrong. But that's not the case as OA is A.
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Analysts believe that whereas bad decisions by elected leaders can certainly hurt the economy, no administration can really be said to control or manage all of the complex and interrelated forces that determine the nation's economic strength.

(A) no administration can really be said to control
(B) no administration can be said that it really controls
(C) that no administration can really be said to control
(D) that no administration can really be said that it controls
(E) that it cannot be said that any administration really controls

Hi guys.

Looking for a clarification and will appreciate the help.

What is the structure of the original sentence? I thought its IC, IC. Because in the first part of the sentence we have sub Analysts and verb believe. So the first part becomes an IC. Also, the second part of the sentence has the subject "administration" and the verb is "can". Therefore second part of the sentence is also an IC.

So if the construction is IC, IC. Then this construction is wrong and hence A is wrong. But that's not the case as OA is A.


Hi, the second part of the sentence is not an IC, it's in the form whereas X, Y and Both X and Y are clauses.

Analysts believe that whereas X, Y.

'that' I believe is used as a conjunction and requires a clause after it.


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