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You know how we work so hard on our resumes, and perfect them, only to have applications ask us to list all that history again on different pages? :?

When an application asks both for a resume, and asks to fill out my employment history, what is the best practice? Do I copy and paste descriptions from my resume? Or do I write a paragraph?

For example, I'm applying to LBS. The questions about my current employment include this:

"Tell us about your responsibilities. Describe your day-to-day role, details of any clients you work with/for, the level/title of the person you report to, the size of budget for which you are directly responsible and the number of people in your team. (400 words max)*"

The section of my resume describing my job looks something like this:
- In partnership with Event Director and Development Department, executed strategy and lead operations for two major benefit events: 2017 XXX Benefit Party (raised XXX - exceeded target by XX%), 2017 XXX Gala (raised $486,000 - exceeded target by XX%)
- Direct event logistics and communication for high profile guest lists for the 2017 EVENT; 10,000 guests including XXX.
- Increased in kind relationships between XXX Non-profit and XXX valued over $50,000, reducing budgets and increasing event impact for guests.


Really unsure if I need to write a whole additional description for each job to answer this question. What is the point of this versus the resume?

EDIT: Thanks for resources about resumes! Right now, my resume is pretty much final, and has been reviewed by a number of people I trust, and I've been able to read a few other posts about resumes that were helpful. If anyone has links to posts about a strategy for job descriptions on the employment section of the application, I would be very appreciative if you shared - I can't be the only one unsure of how to approach this section.

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You know how we work so hard on our resumes, and perfect them, only to have applications ask us to list all that history again on different pages? :?

When an application asks both for a resume, and asks to fill out my employment history, what is the best practice? Do I copy and paste descriptions from my resume? Or do I write a paragraph?

For example, I'm applying to LBS. The questions about my current employment include this:

"Tell us about your responsibilities. Describe your day-to-day role, details of any clients you work with/for, the level/title of the person you report to, the size of budget for which you are directly responsible and the number of people in your team. (400 words max)*"

The section of my resume describing my job looks something like this:
- In partnership with Event Director and Development Department, executed strategy and lead operations for two major benefit events: 2017 XXX Benefit Party (raised XXX - exceeded target by XX%), 2017 XXX Gala (raised $486,000 - exceeded target by XX%)
- Direct event logistics and communication for high profile guest lists for the 2017 EVENT; 10,000 guests including XXX.
- Increased in kind relationships between XXX Non-profit and XXX valued over $50,000, reducing budgets and increasing event impact for guests.


Really unsure if I need to write a whole additional description for each job to answer this question. What is the point of this versus the resume?


That essay is pretty much like the INSEAD job description essay. Because the question is so similar, I will use the same approach as for INSEAD.

Describe your work :
1. Start with giving an overall idea of what you do, your team, how many people do you lead, your team structure, who do you report to etc.

2. Then in the following paragraphs, break it down - categorize your responsibilities and use one paragraph (for each responsibility) to explain what you do, who do you work with (teams, clients etc.), what actions do you for that responsibility, what are the achievements or results, and possibly, what have you learnt.

At all times, remember that your leadership should come across through your description.

To compare this with the resume - the resume provides only a snap shot of your achievements whereas this essay will help describe your work and connect all the dots on the resume.

Now, coming to your resume: A resume is meant to be extremely crisp. You start every pointer with an action verb and quickly tell what you did and what you achieved, in quantifiable terms. You should not be describing your job in the resume as you have done. That's probably why you think the job description and the resume are similar.

To give you an idea, this is how I would write your pointers :

In partnership with Event Director and Development Department, executed strategy and lead operations for two major benefit events: 2017 XXX Benefit Party (raised XXX - exceeded target by XX%), 2017 XXX Gala (raised $486,000 - exceeded target by XX%)
- Direct event logistics and communication for high profile guest lists for the 2017 EVENT;10,000 guests including XXX.
- Increased in kind relationships between XXX Non-profit and XXX valued over $50,000, reducing budgets and increasing event impact for guests.

Led a team of XX for executing two ( adjective to describe events ) events that raise $XXXXXXXX, exceeding target by X%
Managed the event logistics and communication for 10,000 guests
(Every pointer should show impact)


With more information, this could be made better, but you'll understand what I mean.
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New post 06 Sep 2017, 14:16
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brianne5 wrote:
You know how we work so hard on our resumes, and perfect them, only to have applications ask us to list all that history again on different pages? :?

When an application asks both for a resume, and asks to fill out my employment history, what is the best practice? Do I copy and paste descriptions from my resume? Or do I write a paragraph?

For example, I'm applying to LBS. The questions about my current employment include this:

"Tell us about your responsibilities. Describe your day-to-day role, details of any clients you work with/for, the level/title of the person you report to, the size of budget for which you are directly responsible and the number of people in your team. (400 words max)*"

The section of my resume describing my job looks something like this:
- In partnership with Event Director and Development Department, executed strategy and lead operations for two major benefit events: 2017 XXX Benefit Party (raised XXX - exceeded target by XX%), 2017 XXX Gala (raised $486,000 - exceeded target by XX%)
- Direct event logistics and communication for high profile guest lists for the 2017 EVENT; 10,000 guests including XXX.
- Increased in kind relationships between XXX Non-profit and XXX valued over $50,000, reducing budgets and increasing event impact for guests.


Really unsure if I need to write a whole additional description for each job to answer this question. What is the point of this versus the resume?


That essay is pretty much like the INSEAD job description essay. Because the question is so similar, I will use the same approach as for INSEAD.

Describe your work :
1. Start with giving an overall idea of what you do, your team, how many people do you lead, your team structure, who do you report to etc.

2. Then in the following paragraphs, break it down - categorize your responsibilities and use one paragraph (for each responsibility) to explain what you do, who do you work with (teams, clients etc.), what actions do you for that responsibility, what are the achievements or results, and possibly, what have you learnt.

At all times, remember that your leadership should come across through your description.

To compare this with the resume - the resume provides only a snap shot of your achievements whereas this essay will help describe your work and connect all the dots on the resume.

Now, coming to your resume: A resume is meant to be extremely crisp. You start every pointer with an action verb and quickly tell what you did and what you achieved, in quantifiable terms. You should not be describing your job in the resume as you have done. That's probably why you think the job description and the resume are similar.

To give you an idea, this is how I would write your pointers :

In partnership with Event Director and Development Department, executed strategy and lead operations for two major benefit events: 2017 XXX Benefit Party (raised XXX - exceeded target by XX%), 2017 XXX Gala (raised $486,000 - exceeded target by XX%)
- Direct event logistics and communication for high profile guest lists for the 2017 EVENT;10,000 guests including XXX.
- Increased in kind relationships between XXX Non-profit and XXX valued over $50,000, reducing budgets and increasing event impact for guests.

Led a team of XX for executing two ( adjective to describe events ) events that raise $XXXXXXXX, exceeding target by X%
Managed the event logistics and communication for 10,000 guests
(Every pointer should show impact)


With more information, this could be made better, but you'll understand what I mean.


Thank you MBA decoder! I appreciate that feedback. It's helpful to see how you broke that down and how that description should flow. Sounds like its definitely not a copy and paste.

It's a bit of a set back to learn that I have to write a number of additional essays outside of the essay section. Better get cracking! I have had 6 jobs and since LBS does want me to list each position, looks like I've got a lot more writing to do before September 15 (Lots of promotions, and just the way that careers go in the entertainment industry).

However, I want to note that the resume structure is definitely open for interpretation, and I've worked with a couple previous admission officers at my goal schools to get to this particular format. I think saying "You should not be describing your job in the resume as you have done" is a little too definitive of statement :) I do appreciate your feedback on that section as well!

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brianne5 wrote:
You know how we work so hard on our resumes, and perfect them, only to have applications ask us to list all that history again on different pages? :?

When an application asks both for a resume, and asks to fill out my employment history, what is the best practice? Do I copy and paste descriptions from my resume? Or do I write a paragraph?

For example, I'm applying to LBS. The questions about my current employment include this:

"Tell us about your responsibilities. Describe your day-to-day role, details of any clients you work with/for, the level/title of the person you report to, the size of budget for which you are directly responsible and the number of people in your team. (400 words max)*"

The section of my resume describing my job looks something like this:
- In partnership with Event Director and Development Department, executed strategy and lead operations for two major benefit events: 2017 XXX Benefit Party (raised XXX - exceeded target by XX%), 2017 XXX Gala (raised $486,000 - exceeded target by XX%)
- Direct event logistics and communication for high profile guest lists for the 2017 EVENT; 10,000 guests including XXX.
- Increased in kind relationships between XXX Non-profit and XXX valued over $50,000, reducing budgets and increasing event impact for guests.


Really unsure if I need to write a whole additional description for each job to answer this question. What is the point of this versus the resume?



Hi there,
Your resume should be limited to one page in most cases, so you don't have a lot of space to ellaborate on your responsibilities, while in the online application you have more space for details. Use the space in the application to tell the adcom more about your roles, responsibilities, achievements etc.
For tips on how to write strong MBA resume, please visit: https://aringo.com/mba-resume-tips-and-requirements/
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brianne5 wrote:
Thank you MBA decoder! I appreciate that feedback. It's helpful to see how you broke that down and how that description should flow. Sounds like its definitely not a copy and paste.

It's a bit of a set back to learn that I have to write a number of additional essays outside of the essay section. Better get cracking! I have had 6 jobs and since LBS does want me to list each position, looks like I've got a lot more writing to do before September 15 (Lots of promotions, and just the way that careers go in the entertainment industry).

However, I want to note that the resume structure is definitely open for interpretation, and I've worked with a couple previous admission officers at my goal schools to get to this particular format. I think saying "You should not be describing your job in the resume as you have done" is a little too definitive of statement :) I do appreciate your feedback on that section as well!



Glad to help :)

Some of the applications have these essays mentioned cryptically. The day you are to submit, they keep popping out of nowhere :-D I can imagine what you are feeling right now. Just make the best effort to submit this section such that it adds more dimensions to the essays and resume and is not a copy paste.

A resume is crunched for space, so you have to put your best foot forward by saying little, but demonstrating a lot. My advice on the forum can only be limited, so go with the approach you think will best work for you.
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brianne5 wrote:
You know how we work so hard on our resumes, and perfect them, only to have applications ask us to list all that history again on different pages? :?

When an application asks both for a resume, and asks to fill out my employment history, what is the best practice? Do I copy and paste descriptions from my resume? Or do I write a paragraph?

For example, I'm applying to LBS. The questions about my current employment include this:

"Tell us about your responsibilities. Describe your day-to-day role, details of any clients you work with/for, the level/title of the person you report to, the size of budget for which you are directly responsible and the number of people in your team. (400 words max)*"

The section of my resume describing my job looks something like this:
- In partnership with Event Director and Development Department, executed strategy and lead operations for two major benefit events: 2017 XXX Benefit Party (raised XXX - exceeded target by XX%), 2017 XXX Gala (raised $486,000 - exceeded target by XX%)
- Direct event logistics and communication for high profile guest lists for the 2017 EVENT; 10,000 guests including XXX.
- Increased in kind relationships between XXX Non-profit and XXX valued over $50,000, reducing budgets and increasing event impact for guests.


Really unsure if I need to write a whole additional description for each job to answer this question. What is the point of this versus the resume?



Hi there,
Your resume should be limited to one page in most cases, so you don't have a lot of space to ellaborate on your responsibilities, while in the online application you have more space for details. Use the space in the application to tell the adcom more about your roles, responsibilities, achievements etc.
For tips on how to write strong MBA resume, please visit: https://aringo.com/mba-resume-tips-and-requirements/



Thanks Aringo.

I appreciate anyone trying to be helpful, I am aware of the goals and rules of a resume, and have found hundreds of wonderful resources about how to write one - thank you for sharing one more! :)

If anyone has articles focused on the essays on the EMPLOYMENT SECTION of the application, please guide me there, as I have not found helpful resources about how to approach this section.

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