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Bunuel wrote: For how many integer values of x, is x – 6 > 3x + 6?
(A) 1
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(C) 5
(D) 7
(E) Infinite by substituting values i can see 5 as answer ... No positive value for x can satisfy the equation...1 x=0 can equalize the equation2 1 to 5 will satisfy the equation...and 6 will equalize the condition3 so the answer is c  5 .. is there any other way to solve i'e without doing actual substitution ... Thanks..



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sobby wrote: Bunuel wrote: For how many integer values of x, is x – 6 > 3x + 6?
(A) 1
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(E) Infinite by substituting values i can see 5 as answer ... No positive value for x can satisfy the equation...1 x=0 can equalize the equation2 1 to 5 will satisfy the equation...and 6 will equalize the condition3 so the answer is c  5 .. is there any other way to solve i'e without doing actual substitution ... Thanks.. 2nd approach....... we can do it by squaring both side and using number line to solve it ... we will get the roots as 0 and 6 and using this we can deduce only number between 0 and 6 will satisfy the actual solution.. Bunuel : Is this approach correct I have one doubt while squaring in absolute ....what necessary condition we need to consider....



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Bunuel wrote: For how many integer values of x, is x – 6 > 3x + 6?
(A) 1
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(D) 7
(E) Infinite Hi sobby, The actual way would be... Since both sides are positive, square both sides \((x6)^2>(3x+6)^2..........x^212x+36>9x^2+36x+36.........8x^2+48x<0\) 8x(x+6)<0..... For 8x(x+6) to be NEGATIVE, one of 8x and x+6 will be negative and other positive.. If x is positive, 8x will be positive and x+6 will also be positive.. So x should be NEGATIVE..Then 8x will be negative, and thus x+6 should be positive .. For that \(x+6>0.....X>6....\) But x<0. So range becomes \(0>x>6\)... Values are \(1,2,3,4,5\) 5 value C
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Bunuel wrote: For how many integer values of x, is x – 6 > 3x + 6?
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(E) Infinite In this question, in my opinion, there are 2 possible solutions. Solution 1.\(x – 6 > 3x + 6 \implies x – 6  3x + 6>0\) If \(x<2\) we have \((6x)(3x6)=6x+3x+6=2x+12 > 0 \implies x >6\). Hence \(6 <x <2\) If \(2 \leq x < 6\) we have \((6x)(3x+6)=4x>0 \implies x<0\). Hence \(2 \leq x < 0\) If \(x \geq 6\) we have \((x6)(3x+6)=2x12>0 \implies x<6\). There is no satisfied value of \(x\) in this case. Combine all cases we have \(6 < x < 0\). Thus, \(x\) could receive 5 integer value \(\{5;4;3;2;1\}\) The answer is C. Solution 2.\(x – 6 > 3x + 6 \implies (x6)^2 > (3x+6)^2\) \(\implies x^212x+36 > 9x^2+36x+36 \implies 8x^2+48x<0\) \(\implies 8x(x+6)<0 \implies 6<x<0\).
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sobby wrote: sobby wrote: Bunuel wrote: For how many integer values of x, is x – 6 > 3x + 6?
(A) 1
(B) 3
(C) 5
(D) 7
(E) Infinite by substituting values i can see 5 as answer ... No positive value for x can satisfy the equation...1 x=0 can equalize the equation2 1 to 5 will satisfy the equation...and 6 will equalize the condition3 so the answer is c  5 .. is there any other way to solve i'e without doing actual substitution ... Thanks.. 2nd approach....... we can do it by squaring both side and using number line to solve it ... we will get the roots as 0 and 6 and using this we can deduce only number between 0 and 6 will satisfy the actual solution.. Bunuel : Is this approach correct I have one doubt while squaring in absolute ....what necessary condition we need to consider.... We can raise both parts of an inequality to an even power if we know that both parts of an inequality are nonnegative (the same for taking an even root of both sides of an inequality). So, if you have absolute values on both sides of the inequality then you can safely square. Check for more the following topics: Inequalities Made Easy!Solving Quadratic Inequalities  Graphic ApproachInequality tipsDS Inequalities Problems PS Inequalities Problems 700+ Inequalities problemsHope it helps.
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chetan2u wrote: Bunuel wrote: For how many integer values of x, is x – 6 > 3x + 6?
(A) 1
(B) 3
(C) 5
(D) 7
(E) Infinite Hi sobby, The actual way would be... Since both sides are positive, square both sides \((x6)^2>(3x+6)^2..........x^212x+36>9x^2+36x+36.........8x^2+36x<0\) 8x(x+6)<0..... For 8x(x+6) to be NEGATIVE, one of 8x and x+6 will be negative and other positive.. If x is positive, 8x will be positive and x+6 will also be positive.. So x should be NEGATIVE.. Then 8x will be negative, and thus x+6 should be positive .. For that x+6>0.....X>6.... But x<0. So range becomes 0>x>6... Values are 1,2,3,4,5 5 value C
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The blue graph represents x6 and red graph represents 3x+6 and these two graphs meet each other at x=0 and x=6 For x6 to be greater than 3x+6 the blue graph should be above red graph. So our solution should be 6<x<0 i.e. 1,2,3,4,5.
Experts please comment if this approach is correct. Also I tried applying the same approach to 3 modulus equations but it is not so handy as it is here.. Please suggest some method for 3 modulus problems as x – 8 + 5 – x > x + 7
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Bunuel wrote: For how many integer values of x, is x – 6 > 3x + 6?
(A) 1
(B) 3
(C) 5
(D) 7
(E) Infinite Think in terms of the definition of absolute values: x  6 > 3*x + 2 Distance from 6 is greater than 3 times the distance from 2  (2)  (0)  (6)  At point 0, the distance from 6 will be equal to 3 times the distance from 2. So on the left of 0, the distance from 6 will be greater. The distance between 2 and 6 is 8. Distance from 6 will be equal to 3 times the distance from 2 at a point 4 units to the left of 2 i.e. 6. To its left, distance from 6 will be less. So between 6 to 0, distance from 6 is greater than 3 times the distance from 2. We have 5 integer values lying between these two. Answer (C)
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(D) 7
(E) Infinite To solve an inequality where the absolute value of an expression is greater than (or less than) the absolute value of another expression, we need to find the values that make the absolute values of the two expressions equal to each other. That is, to solve x – 6 > 3x + 6, we first need to solve x – 6 = 3x + 6. Recall that if A = B, then either A = B (Case 1) or A = B (Case 2). Case 1: When \(x  6 = 3x + 6\): \(x  6 = 3x + 6\) \(2x = 12\) \(x = 6\) Case 2: When \(x  6 = (3x + 6)\): \(x  6 = (3x + 6)\) \(x  6 = 3x  6\) \(4x = 0\) \(x = 0\) These two values, 6 and 0, are the critical values for determining the solution to the given inequality. Now when we place these two values on the number line, we will see that they partition the number line into 3 intervals: \(x < 6\) \(6 < x < 0\) \(x > 0\) For each of these intervals, we will pick a value in that interval (for example, for x < 6, we can pick 7) and test whether it satisfies the given inequality. If it does, then EVERY number in that interval will satisfy the inequality. If it doesn’t, then NO numbers in that interval will satisfy the inequality. Recall that our given inequality is x – 6 > 3x + 6. Let’s begin testing the intervals. 1) For \(x < 6\), let’s pick x = 7: 7 – 6 > 3(7) + 6 ? \(13 > 15\)? \(13 > 15\) → No!Thus, no numbers in the interval \(x < 6\)will satisfy \(x – 6 > 3x + 6.\) 2) For \(6 < x < 0\), let’s pick x = 1: \(1 – 6 > 3(1) + 6\)? \(7 > 3\) ? \(7 > 3\)→ YesThus, every number in the interval \(6 < x < 0\) will satisfy \(x – 6 > 3x + 6.\) 3) For \(x > 0\), let’s pick x = 1: \(1 – 6 > 3(1) + 6\) ? \(5 > 9\) ? \(5 > 9\) → NoThus, no numbers in the interval \(x > 0\) will satisfy \(x – 6 > 3x + 6.\)As we can see, the only interval that satisfies \(x – 6 > 3x + 6\) is \(6 < x < 0\). In other words, the solution to \(x – 6 > 3x + 6\) is \(6 < x < 0\). In this interval, there are 5 integers: 5, 4, 3, 2, and 1. Answer: C
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VeritasPrepKarishma wrote: Bunuel wrote: For how many integer values of x, is x – 6 > 3x + 6?
(A) 1
(B) 3
(C) 5
(D) 7
(E) Infinite Think in terms of the definition of absolute values: x  6 > 3*x + 2 Distance from 6 is greater than 3 times the distance from 2  (2)  (0)  (6)  At point 0, the distance from 6 will be equal to 3 times the distance from 2. So on the left of 0, the distance from 6 will be greater. The distance between 2 and 6 is 8. Distance from 6 will be equal to 3 times the distance from 2 at a point 4 units to the left of 2 i.e. 6. To its left, distance from 6 will be less. So between 6 to 0, distance from 6 is greater than 3 times the distance from 2. We have 5 integer values lying between these two. Answer (C) Responding to a pm: Quote: I know very well that if x  3 < 6
Distance of x from 3 is less than 6 so 3 < x < 9.
with this understood, Can you please elaborate your answer?
First consider the equation: x  6 = 3*x + 2 That is, the point where distance from 6 is equal to three times the distance from 2. There is such a point between 6 and 2. That point is x = 0. Here the distance from 6 is 6 which is equal to three times 2, the distance of 0 from 2. How do we get x = 0? Distance from 6 should be thrice the distance from 2 Distance from 6 : Distance from 2 = 3:1 Split the distance between 6 and 2 into the ratio 3:1. Since there are 8 units between 6 and 2, you get that x is 6 units away from 6 and hence at 0. For the inequality, we want the distance from 6 to be greater than the distance from 2 so we move to the left (closer to 2). The distance from 6 will keep increasing till we reach 2 when the distance from 6 is 8. Note that now also distance from 6 is greater than 3 times the distance from 2. Now as we go further to the left, the distance from 6 keeps increasing but so does the distance from 2. There will be some point again where distance from 6 will be equal to 3 times the distance from 2. At this point, the distance of 8 units between 6 and 2 will make up twice the distance of x from 2 (x)......................(2).................(0)...................................................(6)................... < Distance from 2> <Distance from 6 > So x must be 4 units to the left of 2. So at x = 6, again, distance from 6 will be three times the distance from 2. Hence, for our inequality, x can take values between 6 and 0. This gives us 5 integer values.
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VeritasPrepKarishma wrote: Responding to a pm: Quote: I know very well that if x  3 < 6
Distance of x from 3 is less than 6 so 3 < x < 9.
with this understood, Can you please elaborate your answer?
First consider the equation: x  6 = 3*x + 2 That is, the point where distance from 6 is equal to three times the distance from 2. There is such a point between 6 and 2. That point is x = 0. Here the distance from 6 is 6 which is equal to three times 2, the distance of 0 from 2. How do we get x = 0? Distance from 6 should be thrice the distance from 2 Distance from 6 : Distance from 2 = 3:1 Split the distance between 6 and 2 into the ratio 3:1. Since there are 8 units between 6 and 2, you get that x is 6 units away from 6 and hence at 0. For the inequality, we want the distance from 6 to be greater than the distance from 2 so we move to the left (closer to 2). The distance from 6 will keep increasing till we reach 2 when the distance from 6 is 8. Note that now also distance from 6 is greater than 3 times the distance from 2. Now as we go further to the left, the distance from 6 keeps increasing but so does the distance from 2. There will be some point again where distance from 6 will be equal to 3 times the distance from 2. At this point, the distance of 8 units between 6 and 2 will make up twice the distance of x from 2 (x)......................(2).................(0)...................................................(6)................... < Distance from 2> <Distance from 6 > So x must be 4 units to the left of 2. So at x = 6, again, distance from 6 will be three times the distance from 2. Hence, for our inequality, x can take values between 6 and 0. This gives us 5 integer values. Thank you so much VeritasPrepKarishma for the explanation. +1 A good thoughtful explanation. It took a little time for me to understand but I guess I need to practice more to internalize it. Just one question here, for the below inequality  x6 > x+2 can we say that the solution for this is x<2?
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RMD007 wrote: VeritasPrepKarishma wrote: Responding to a pm: Quote: I know very well that if x  3 < 6
Distance of x from 3 is less than 6 so 3 < x < 9.
with this understood, Can you please elaborate your answer?
First consider the equation: x  6 = 3*x + 2 That is, the point where distance from 6 is equal to three times the distance from 2. There is such a point between 6 and 2. That point is x = 0. Here the distance from 6 is 6 which is equal to three times 2, the distance of 0 from 2. How do we get x = 0? Distance from 6 should be thrice the distance from 2 Distance from 6 : Distance from 2 = 3:1 Split the distance between 6 and 2 into the ratio 3:1. Since there are 8 units between 6 and 2, you get that x is 6 units away from 6 and hence at 0. For the inequality, we want the distance from 6 to be greater than the distance from 2 so we move to the left (closer to 2). The distance from 6 will keep increasing till we reach 2 when the distance from 6 is 8. Note that now also distance from 6 is greater than 3 times the distance from 2. Now as we go further to the left, the distance from 6 keeps increasing but so does the distance from 2. There will be some point again where distance from 6 will be equal to 3 times the distance from 2. At this point, the distance of 8 units between 6 and 2 will make up twice the distance of x from 2 (x)......................(2).................(0)...................................................(6)................... < Distance from 2> <Distance from 6 > So x must be 4 units to the left of 2. So at x = 6, again, distance from 6 will be three times the distance from 2. Hence, for our inequality, x can take values between 6 and 0. This gives us 5 integer values. Thank you so much VeritasPrepKarishma for the explanation. +1 A good thoughtful explanation. It took a little time for me to understand but I guess I need to practice more to internalize it. Just one question here, for the below inequality  x6 > x+2 can we say that the solution for this is x<2? Yes, that is correct. x6 > x+2 The distance of x from 6 is more than the distance of x from 2. The two distances will be equal at the mid point that is at x = 2. As you move the left, the distance of x from 6 will keep increasing. To the left of 2 too, the distance from 6 will always be more than the distance from 2. Hence answer will be x < 2.
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In this question, in my opinion, there are 2 possible solutions.
Solution 1.
x–6>3x+6⟹x–6−3x+6>0x–6>3x+6⟹x–6−3x+6>0
If x<−2x<−2 we have (6−x)−(−3x−6)=6−x+3x+6=2x+12>0⟹x>−6(6−x)−(−3x−6)=6−x+3x+6=2x+12>0⟹x>−6. Hence −6<x<−2−6<x<−2
If −2≤x<6−2≤x<6 we have (6−x)−(3x+6)=−4x>0⟹x<0(6−x)−(3x+6)=−4x>0⟹x<0. Hence −2≤x<0−2≤x<0
If x≥6x≥6 we have (x−6)−(3x+6)=−2x−12>0⟹x<−6(x−6)−(3x+6)=−2x−12>0⟹x<−6. There is no satisfied value of xx in this case.
Combine all cases we have −6<x<0−6<x<0.
Thus, xx could receive 5 integer value {−5;−4;−3;−2;−1}{−5;−4;−3;−2;−1}
The answer is C.
Solution 2.
x–6>3x+6⟹(x−6)2>(3x+6)2x–6>3x+6⟹(x−6)2>(3x+6)2
⟹x2−12x+36>9x2+36x+36⟹8x2+48x<0⟹x2−12x+36>9x2+36x+36⟹8x2+48x<0
⟹8x(x+6)<0⟹−6<x<0⟹8x(x+6)<0⟹−6<x<0.
hi nguyendinhtuong . could u please explain why x<6 has no satisfied values in solution 1.
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Bunuel wrote: For how many integer values of x, is \(x – 6 > 3x + 6\) ?
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(D) 7
(E) Infinite Bunuel Why my solution is incorrect? (1) Take positive \(x – 6=x  6\) \(3x + 6=3x + 6\) \(x6>3x+6\) \(x<6\) (2) Take negative \(x6 = x+6\) \(3x+6 = 3x6\) \(x+6>3x6\) \(x>6\) Does this approach correct? https://gmatclub.com/forum/forhowmany ... l#p1804531
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ziyuen wrote: Bunuel wrote: For how many integer values of x, is \(x – 6 > 3x + 6\) ?
(A) 1
(B) 3
(C) 5
(D) 7
(E) Infinite Bunuel Why my solution is incorrect? (1) Take positive \(x – 6=x  6\) \(3x + 6=3x + 6\) \(x6>3x+6\) \(x<6\) (2) Take negative \(x6 = x+6\) \(3x+6 = 3x6\) \(x+6>3x6\) \(x>6\) Does this approach correct? https://gmatclub.com/forum/forhowmany ... l#p1804531Hi ziyuenIt is not that easy. This is an extremely difficult problem. You highlighted part is incorrect.
Here is what did =>
Firstly the definition of x > x= x for x>0 = x for x<0 =0 for x=0
Now lets look at the two modulus equations > x6 = x6 for x>6 =(x6)=x+6 for x<6 =0 for x=6
Similarly 3x+6 => 3x+6 for x>2 => 3x6 for x<2 => 0 for x=2
Hence the three boundaries are => (∞,2] , [2,6]and [6,∞)
For x>6 ==>
x6>3x+6 x<6
REJECTED as x cannot be x>6 and x<6 simultaneously. ((Also x≠6 as modulus is always positive))
For x=> [2,6) x+6>3x+6 4x4x<0 x<0
Hence x can be 2 or 1
Finally when x<2 ==> x+6 >3x6 2x>12 x>6
Hence x can be 5,4,3
Final conclusion > x can be 5,4,3,2,1
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P.S> It took me about 3 minutes and 32 seconds to get to the correct answer. This question is extremely helpful to clear basics.
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For how many integer values of x, is x – 6 > 3x + 6? [#permalink]
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27 Dec 2017, 08:50
Bunuel wrote: For how many integer values of x, is x – 6 > 3x + 6?
(A) 1
(B) 3
(C) 5
(D) 7
(E) Infinite MY way simple and sober and within a minute you get the answerequate x – 6 = 3x + 6we get x=6 Now if you will decrease x let's say Quote: 7 ((try it) then x – 6 > 3x + 6 wil not hold ((LHS WILL BE LESS THAN RHSHowever if you DECREASE X Quote: say 5 then x – 6 > 3x + 6 holds this continues till 1 and then again fails therefore 5.4,3,2,1 check for 0 Ans =5



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Re: For how many integer values of x, is x – 6 > 3x + 6? [#permalink]
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24 Feb 2018, 11:30
x6 > 3x + 6? (X  6)^2 > (3x + 6)^2 x^2  12x + 36 > 9x^2 + 36x + 36 8x^2 + 48x < 0 8x ( x + 6) < 0 Now, for it to be negative, either 1) 8x is positive and (x+6) is negative or 2) 8x is negative and (x+6) is positive. Both cannot be positive and both cannot be negative 1) For 8x to be positive and x+6 to be negative is impossible. As you cannot have a positive number x that when multiplied by 8 is positive and when added to 6 is negative, then no results here. 2) For 8x is negative and (x+6) is positive: Any negative number multiplied by 8 is negative, but not any negative number added to 6 is positive. The only negative integers that when added to 6 become positive are 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 Therefore, answer C, 5 integers
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