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What kind of response is the school looking for? Any specifics you can provide would be great.
What drives your interest in these short- and long-term goals?


You have to present yourself in the essays. Especially in long term goals, you have to present your ideas and career aspirations.
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What kind of response is the school looking for? Any specifics you can provide would be great.
What drives your interest in these short- and long-term goals?



Hi There,

The wording of this essay prompt suggests that they have also asked you the short term and long term goals.
Basically, they are trying to understand the connection between your past experiences and your future goals. In other words, what experience(s) in the past have motivated you to pursue these goals? In the course of your work, have you seen a business problem that you wish to tackle and that has driven your stated career goals? Or do you see an opportunity for growth which has informed your goals?

Sometimes applicants write lofty career goals, which are completely disassociated from their work experience (say for example, writing about joining the social sector, when nothing in your resume points to your interest or involvement in this sector). This question should make you think about how your story- past, present and future connects together, and thus shows coherence
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What kind of response is the school looking for? Any specifics you can provide would be great.
What drives your interest in these short- and long-term goals?


Business schools want to understand you. They want to know your reasons for coming, how you intend to make an impact while there, and what you'll do after.

Your application materials, including this answer, should highlight your strengths and personal characteristics ("personal brand"), how they've manifested in your life and career to date ("narratives"), and your short and long-term goals ("post-school goals"). This logical arc should hinge not only on how the MBA will not only allow you to move from past to future, but how the MBA at that school is critical in your ability to do so.

This question wants to make sure you really know why you're chasing these goals. Tying to your history, strengths, and previous jobs make your answer more compelling. Think:

- I liked this part of my work, but not this, so I want to do this
- I've been doing this and I want to accelerate my trajectory
- I have learned a lot about this sector and now want to jump in
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Hi Friends! Application season has started so I thought I would do a little AMA for those applying to Kellogg and wanting some info.

I’m a rising second year student in Kellogg’s 2Y program. I’m currently doing my internship in tech. Happy to answer any questions you may have about what the program is like or anything really.

AMA

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For those of you applying to Stanford, you can get a bit more mileage out of the introspection for What Matters Most with Kellogg essay 2 here – essays for both schools should illustrate a transformative experience and how it reflects your present day values.

Originally posted by MBAPrepCoach on 04 Jul 2019, 09:03.
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For those of you applying to Stanford,


MBAPrepCoach

Did you mean Kellogg?
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FROM Kellogg MBA Blog: Full-Time MBA Application Series: Career Goals
By Christine Mayer, director of admissions

As you know, the career goals you put in your application are binding for the rest of your life. You may never waver from them and will be expected to follow only them at Kellogg and beyond…

I’m obviously kidding! But we know articulating your career goals can be a source of stress in this process. Some of you may have specific long-term goals but be trying to figure immediate steps while others may have identified a next step or phase but are open to what the future holds beyond that. The good news is that both are acceptable, and we’re looking to understand you and where you want to go.

We ask you to reflect on your career goals because the job search process can start quickly, with companies coming on campus to woo and impress you just a few weeks into your first quarter. Because you will be exposed to new opportunities and companies you had never even considered, it’s important to do that reflection ahead of time so that you come in with a grounding of what’s important to you and where you think you want to go. This will help you make sense of all the opportunities in front of you and weed out the noise and confusion from the things that really matter to you. You can still change your mind and explore new paths, but you need to be grounded in a starting point or you’ll find yourself quickly overwhelmed and suffering from FOMO for things you aren’t even interested in!

As you consider your career goals, I have a few pieces of advice on how to identify them and how to share them with us:

  • Think about what you like most/least about your work or your company. Identifying things you enjoying doing is more likely to lead you to a compatible next step than trying to get away from things you don’t like.
  • Talk to people that do what you want to do. Leverage those in your company or your LinkedIn network and find out what they do every day. Does it sound like something you’d like? How did they get to where they are today? This may help you identify intermediate steps to your ultimate goal.
  • Tell us the truth! One pitfall we see is people telling us what they think we want to hear. This can be a problem in two ways. One is in the application review – when the goal you give us doesn’t really fit with where you’ve been or where you want to go, it can make it hard to understand your path and how the MBA will help you – it may actually raise more of a question mark around your goals. The other place this can cause an issue is after you’re admitted. We match resources to you based on what you tell us in the application, like connecting you with current students/alums who share a similar path. When applicants say one thing in the application but actually want a different path, it means we’re not connecting you with the most useful resources to help you with your decision.

So do some research to help you form your goals and discover how you plan to leverage your path and the Kellogg MBA to get where you want to go. The clearer it is to you, the clearer it will be to us, and you’ll be setting yourself up for success when you start at Kellogg!
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No workout, I meant to say Stanford. There is a lot you can leverage between the schools because the essays for both Stanford and Kellogg speak to your values

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MBAPrepCoach wrote:
For those of you applying to Stanford,


MBAPrepCoach

Did you mean Kellogg?
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Our Kellogg moderator jaja231 is organizing an interview with a current Kellogg student and also with an adcom member. If you have any questions for them, please post them in the following topic.

The interview with the current student will happen in about a week and the interview with the adcom member will happen in about a month.

https://gmatclub.com/forum/questions-yo ... 99733.html
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This career goals blog is absolutely great.

#2 is the most underutilized strategy in MBA admissions; applicants tell me they are afraid of not looking like the "know enough" but who cares...the person you are contacting realizes it is an informational interview; that is why you are reaching out...

this process requires that you are informed about yourself, your schools and your goals. Clear goals provide a type of RUDDER for everything else; it provides momentum for this long grueling process. Informed goals lead to good school choices and when you are in b school you can better leverage your time there! Learn some stuff rather than recruit for 3 different industries...what a waste.

Informational interviews with people doing the job is indispensable in researching your goals.

What is really cool, my clients get offered internship interviews from these calls sometimes. There is no reason to wait for business school to start networking.

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FROM Kellogg MBA Blog: Full-Time MBA Application Series: Career Goals
By Christine Mayer, director of admissions

As you know, the career goals you put in your application are binding for the rest of your life. You may never waver from them and will be expected to follow only them at Kellogg and beyond…

I’m obviously kidding! But we know articulating your career goals can be a source of stress in this process. Some of you may have specific long-term goals but be trying to figure immediate steps while others may have identified a next step or phase but are open to what the future holds beyond that. The good news is that both are acceptable, and we’re looking to understand you and where you want to go.

We ask you to reflect on your career goals because the job search process can start quickly, with companies coming on campus to woo and impress you just a few weeks into your first quarter. Because you will be exposed to new opportunities and companies you had never even considered, it’s important to do that reflection ahead of time so that you come in with a grounding of what’s important to you and where you think you want to go. This will help you make sense of all the opportunities in front of you and weed out the noise and confusion from the things that really matter to you. You can still change your mind and explore new paths, but you need to be grounded in a starting point or you’ll find yourself quickly overwhelmed and suffering from FOMO for things you aren’t even interested in!

As you consider your career goals, I have a few pieces of advice on how to identify them and how to share them with us:

  • Think about what you like most/least about your work or your company. Identifying things you enjoying doing is more likely to lead you to a compatible next step than trying to get away from things you don’t like.
  • Talk to people that do what you want to do. Leverage those in your company or your LinkedIn network and find out what they do every day. Does it sound like something you’d like? How did they get to where they are today? This may help you identify intermediate steps to your ultimate goal.
  • Tell us the truth! One pitfall we see is people telling us what they think we want to hear. This can be a problem in two ways. One is in the application review – when the goal you give us doesn’t really fit with where you’ve been or where you want to go, it can make it hard to understand your path and how the MBA will help you – it may actually raise more of a question mark around your goals. The other place this can cause an issue is after you’re admitted. We match resources to you based on what you tell us in the application, like connecting you with current students/alums who share a similar path. When applicants say one thing in the application but actually want a different path, it means we’re not connecting you with the most useful resources to help you with your decision.

So do some research to help you form your goals and discover how you plan to leverage your path and the Kellogg MBA to get where you want to go. The clearer it is to you, the clearer it will be to us, and you’ll be setting yourself up for success when you start at Kellogg!
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Hi,

How GRE friendly is Kellogg?
It's one of the schools that does not disclose GRE averages.
Wondering if anyone here has applied with GRE scores and has been successful?

Thank you!
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One question - In the Employer section of the application, there is an area that asks for "Years of full-time work experience (upon matriculation, excludes internships)"

Does that mean years of expected work experience on Aug 2020? So in other words should I add a year of work experience to my current work experience?
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Yep, exactly that!
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Does that mean years of expected work experience on Aug 2020? So in other words should I add a year of work experience to my current work experience?
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Roughly 3 weeks in submit R1 apps. Good luck folks! Do share any questions/updates about the application on this thread.
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Hi everyone,

I want to be 100% sure on this. As I read it, the Kellogg video essay is due within 48 hours of the application deadline. So even if you submit the application on September 1, the video essays are still due September 20 (September 18 is R1 deadline + 48 hours). NOT September 3.

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Hi everyone,

I want to be 100% sure on this. As I read it, the Kellogg video essay is due within 48 hours of the application deadline. So even if you submit the application on September 1, the video essays are still due September 20 (September 18 is R1 deadline + 48 hours). NOT September 3.

Thanks!


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No. I don't think you are correct. The video essays are due within 48hrs of application submission. I have found the following on their website.

Quote:
Q: How much time will I have to complete the video essays?
A: After submitting your application you will be given access to the video essay component and will have 48 hours after the application is due to complete the video essay. We encourage applicants to complete their video essay shortly after submitting the application while information is still fresh in your mind and so you don 't forget!Also, please try not to wait for the last possible moment to record your video essay. It will feel more stressful if you are doing it at the last minute and in a rush. Block out 20-25 minutes a few days after you submit your application and complete it.
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No. I don't think you are correct. The video essays are due within 48hrs of application submission. I have found the following on their website.

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Q: How much time will I have to complete the video essays?
A: After submitting your application you will be given access to the video essay component and will have 48 hours after the application is due to complete the video essay. We encourage applicants to complete their video essay shortly after submitting the application while information is still fresh in your mind and so you don 't forget!Also, please try not to wait for the last possible moment to record your video essay. It will feel more stressful if you are doing it at the last minute and in a rush. Block out 20-25 minutes a few days after you submit your application and complete it.


Hi workout,

Thanks for sending this! I'm going to play devil's advocate (not to create an issue for the sake of it, but just to try and make sure we are getting the right information).

"will have 48 hours after the application is due to complete the video essay" I read as 48 hours after the application deadline. It doesn't directly mention 48 hours after you submit - it's 48 hours after it is due. Also - for what this is worth - it doesn't seem to make much sense for Kellogg to impose a 48 hour after submission deadline, as applicants would then simply submit their applications later (i.e., closer to the round deadline). to give them more time.

Only way to test this might be to submit the application then see what happens? Happy to be the tester but wanted to see if anyone had experience yet. I imagine Kellogg would send an email stating that your video essays are due by XX date.
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