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Naveen Jindal MBA (Full Ride) v/S Olin (80% scholarship)

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Hi,

I am confused between UTDallas and Olin, one is a fast growing B-school, and is offering 100 %V scholarship, while the other is an old school with good and consistent rankings.

UTDallas - Pros :
1. Location wise I think Texas is better than St. Louis which is in mid - west, so career opportunity for me being an international student would be more
2. Full scholarship and TA will take away the burden of loans, and considering the risk of getting H1B visa, cost is a significant factor.
3. MS+MBA - stem degree option- which will be helpful for visa extension to 3 years v/s 1.
4. Climate and city
5. I am targeting Fintech jobs, so i think texas will be ideal.

UTDallas- Cons:
1. Relatively a new school, though fast growing, by the time i graduate not much will be changed.
2. Is ranked lower than Olin.
3. Due to better colleges in Texas such as RICE, Mccombs, Texas A & M, its regional ranking will be lower and competition will be higher.
4. Outside of Texas, the college is still struggling to make a name.
5. Placements statistics is a bit lower than Olin, and not much of the information is available on it.

Olin Pros:
1. It has a consistent ranking of 25 and is an old school with massive alumni network
2. The Program is more structured than dallas (at least what i hear from seniors)
3. Has international exposure (They take you to different countries for gaining hands on industry experience with no additional cost)
4. The school has a record of having 97% people placed within 3 months from graudation
5. It is the only B-school nearby mid-west so regional competition is less.
6. Has the option of dual degree with STEM.
7. Has student exchange programs.

Olin Cons:
1. Immigrants are a small portion of the batch size, and the firms that come for recruitment are reluctant to hire someone for whom they'll have to sponsor H1B Visa.
2. The location disadvantage- it is no secret that mid-west has limited industries in its vicinity, with even lesser FinTech firms.
3. Placement logistics are significantly at the lower end for immigrants which fuels the feeling of discrimination.
4. The climate is bad. Being someone from tropical country, adjusting to snow and extreme winter would be challenging.
5. Too much travel at the start of the program

Given both the programs have the provision of STEM, and are of comparable rankings, Please suggest which one would be a better fit for an international student.
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H094122 wrote:
Hi,

I am confused between UTDallas and Olin, one is a fast growing B-school, and is offering 100 %V scholarship, while the other is an old school with good and consistent rankings.

UTDallas - Pros :
1. Location wise I think Texas is better than St. Louis which is in mid - west, so career opportunity for me being an international student would be more
2. Full scholarship and TA will take away the burden of loans, and considering the risk of getting H1B visa, cost is a significant factor.
3. MS+MBA - stem degree option- which will be helpful for visa extension to 3 years v/s 1.
4. Climate and city
5. I am targeting Fintech jobs, so i think texas will be ideal.

UTDallas- Cons:
1. Relatively a new school, though fast growing, by the time i graduate not much will be changed.
2. Is ranked lower than Olin.
3. Due to better colleges in Texas such as RICE, Mccombs, Texas A & M, its regional ranking will be lower and competition will be higher.
4. Outside of Texas, the college is still struggling to make a name.
5. Placements statistics is a bit lower than Olin, and not much of the information is available on it.

Olin Pros:
1. It has a consistent ranking of 25 and is an old school with massive alumni network
2. The Program is more structured than dallas (at least what i hear from seniors)
3. Has international exposure (They take you to different countries for gaining hands on industry experience with no additional cost)
4. The school has a record of having 97% people placed within 3 months from graudation
5. It is the only B-school nearby mid-west so regional competition is less.
6. Has the option of dual degree with STEM.
7. Has student exchange programs.

Olin Cons:
1. Immigrants are a small portion of the batch size, and the firms that come for recruitment are reluctant to hire someone for whom they'll have to sponsor H1B Visa.
2. The location disadvantage- it is no secret that mid-west has limited industries in its vicinity, with even lesser FinTech firms.
3. Placement logistics are significantly at the lower end for immigrants which fuels the feeling of discrimination.
4. The climate is bad. Being someone from tropical country, adjusting to snow and extreme winter would be challenging.
5. Too much travel at the start of the program

Given both the programs have the provision of STEM, and are of comparable rankings, Please suggest which one would be a better fit for an international student.



Hello H094122


First congrats on being admitted to great programs with such scholarships. :thumbup:

I would agree with all UTDallas pros you mention.

Location wise, Dallas metropolitan area is absolutely better location than St. Louis.

Full scholarship and TA/H1B visa perspective already answers your question, which offer you should take, although I believe that company that hires you upon graduation will sort papers for you, even if you decide to go to Olin.

MS+MBA - stem degree option- helpful for visa extension is awesome opportunity, I wouldn't miss that. ;)

Climate and city are just the way I like :cool:

Yes Dallas–Fort Worth–Arlington metropolitan area is certainly much more suitable for FinTech than St. Loius, furthermore Austin and Houston jobs are also reachable from there.


Yes Olin is better ranked school, still.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-sc ... a-rankings


international exposure with no additional cost is very nice (England, France, Germany, China ) . :clap:

Being the only B-school nearby mid-west, with less regional competition is not a strength in my book, since I doubt you actually would like to work or target that area for FinTech, which again answers your question where you should go, on the other hand from perspective of international student I kinda understand your incentive to try to play as safe as possible.

Point is that even if you decide to attend Olin, I doubt you will work in that area, or nearby, my feeling is that you will need to relocate for FinTech job. :idea:

Think Dallas, Austin, West Coast and East Coast.


NYC 1,367
San Francisco 1,241
LA 431
Chicago 267
Boston 246
Austin 226
Atlanta 161
San Diego 156
Palo Alto 136
Seattle 116 (tie)
Dallas 116 (tie)
Miami 107


https://finovate.com/friday-fun-fintech ... ty-top-12/

http://fintechnews.ch/fintech/fintech-usa/18831/

https://bankinnovation.net/2017/08/top- ... -s-page-5/

https://blogs.thomsonreuters.com/answer ... h-centers/

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/08/ ... tech-hubs/


I dont know from which tropical country you are, but I would agree with all cons you mention for Olin in general and in your specific case :)


After all I have typed should be obvious you should rather go to UTDallas, it is much better fit for you and I dont believe 20k difference is worth of a little better rankings, keeping in mind all other aspects, in your specific case.


I vote here for UTDallas.



Good Luck :geek: :cool:
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H094122 wrote:
Hi,

I am confused between UTDallas and Olin, one is a fast growing B-school, and is offering 100 %V scholarship, while the other is an old school with good and consistent rankings.

UTDallas - Pros :
1. Location wise I think Texas is better than St. Louis which is in mid - west, so career opportunity for me being an international student would be more
2. Full scholarship and TA will take away the burden of loans, and considering the risk of getting H1B visa, cost is a significant factor.
3. MS+MBA - stem degree option- which will be helpful for visa extension to 3 years v/s 1.
4. Climate and city
5. I am targeting Fintech jobs, so i think texas will be ideal.

UTDallas- Cons:
1. Relatively a new school, though fast growing, by the time i graduate not much will be changed.
2. Is ranked lower than Olin.
3. Due to better colleges in Texas such as RICE, Mccombs, Texas A & M, its regional ranking will be lower and competition will be higher.
4. Outside of Texas, the college is still struggling to make a name.
5. Placements statistics is a bit lower than Olin, and not much of the information is available on it.

Olin Pros:
1. It has a consistent ranking of 25 and is an old school with massive alumni network
2. The Program is more structured than dallas (at least what i hear from seniors)
3. Has international exposure (They take you to different countries for gaining hands on industry experience with no additional cost)
4. The school has a record of having 97% people placed within 3 months from graudation
5. It is the only B-school nearby mid-west so regional competition is less.
6. Has the option of dual degree with STEM.
7. Has student exchange programs.

Olin Cons:
1. Immigrants are a small portion of the batch size, and the firms that come for recruitment are reluctant to hire someone for whom they'll have to sponsor H1B Visa.
2. The location disadvantage- it is no secret that mid-west has limited industries in its vicinity, with even lesser FinTech firms.
3. Placement logistics are significantly at the lower end for immigrants which fuels the feeling of discrimination.
4. The climate is bad. Being someone from tropical country, adjusting to snow and extreme winter would be challenging.
5. Too much travel at the start of the program

Given both the programs have the provision of STEM, and are of comparable rankings, Please suggest which one would be a better fit for an international student.


First of all congratulation on admission with great % scholarship. Ranking wise Olin is ahead of Dallas. Please take a decision based on your post-MBA goals and great alumni network.
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