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hi Sid05:
I have run into this before with a PhD student from UC Irvine. This student was my client who gained acceptance to a top 15 school with no work experience. When I say no work experience, I mean this at a cursory level. What I found was that there was work experience, behind the scenes, that could be used to satiate the admissions committee. What I see in a lot of qualified applicants is the fact that they sell their own experiences short.
So what am I getting to? What I am saying is that work experience, in many cases, is a proxy for team oriented leadership experience. So my first question to you would be -- tell me what your team oriented leadership experiences are. As a PhD student did you lead teams? You had to of been working on something in support of your studies? What other departments within the BioEngineering program did you work with? What other schools within the University did you work with? What experts did you reach out to to conduct your research? How did you obtain your funding? Who did you report your findings to you? Was anything published? How did you manage this process? Who was involved in collaborated on your publications? Did you gain any patents?
So you can see from the questions above, you may in fact have a significant "work experience". If you have team leadership experience and your butt is on the line to deliver a product or any other tangible, then you have the beginnings of laying out a case for nontraditional "work experience." Don't sell yourself short. Your work experience is hiding somewhere, lurking beneath the surface.
while I am not completely sure of the nature of any team oriented experiences that you made currently be leading, I would look to grasp any of these type of opportunities that are presented to you. So step it up, look around and see what else it is that you can get involved in without sacrificing your primary role as a PhD student. If it passes the basic litmus test idea that I detailed above, then go for it.
Respectfully,
Paul Lanzillotti
I have run into this before with a PhD student from UC Irvine. This student was my client who gained acceptance to a top 15 school with no work experience. When I say no work experience, I mean this at a cursory level. What I found was that there was work experience, behind the scenes, that could be used to satiate the admissions committee. What I see in a lot of qualified applicants is the fact that they sell their own experiences short.
So what am I getting to? What I am saying is that work experience, in many cases, is a proxy for team oriented leadership experience. So my first question to you would be -- tell me what your team oriented leadership experiences are. As a PhD student did you lead teams? You had to of been working on something in support of your studies? What other departments within the BioEngineering program did you work with? What other schools within the University did you work with? What experts did you reach out to to conduct your research? How did you obtain your funding? Who did you report your findings to you? Was anything published? How did you manage this process? Who was involved in collaborated on your publications? Did you gain any patents?
So you can see from the questions above, you may in fact have a significant "work experience". If you have team leadership experience and your butt is on the line to deliver a product or any other tangible, then you have the beginnings of laying out a case for nontraditional "work experience." Don't sell yourself short. Your work experience is hiding somewhere, lurking beneath the surface.
while I am not completely sure of the nature of any team oriented experiences that you made currently be leading, I would look to grasp any of these type of opportunities that are presented to you. So step it up, look around and see what else it is that you can get involved in without sacrificing your primary role as a PhD student. If it passes the basic litmus test idea that I detailed above, then go for it.
Respectfully,
Paul Lanzillotti
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Hi Paul,
Thanks for the input. I think there is more than enough to discuss as I have good answers for every 'work related experience' question you posed above. I have plenty of experience leading small teams, collaborating with top surgeons, publishing papers to conferences and peer-reviewed journals in addition to extracurricular-related leadership experience. I just don't want adcoms at the ultra elites to blow it off since it didn't happen at a big name firm.
I'm curious, if you don't mind me asking, how successful was the student from UC Irvine at getting into schools? Did he/she receive any feedback about their application? I certainly understand if you can't answer, and I appreciate your thoughts thus far.
Sid
Thanks for the input. I think there is more than enough to discuss as I have good answers for every 'work related experience' question you posed above. I have plenty of experience leading small teams, collaborating with top surgeons, publishing papers to conferences and peer-reviewed journals in addition to extracurricular-related leadership experience. I just don't want adcoms at the ultra elites to blow it off since it didn't happen at a big name firm.
I'm curious, if you don't mind me asking, how successful was the student from UC Irvine at getting into schools? Did he/she receive any feedback about their application? I certainly understand if you can't answer, and I appreciate your thoughts thus far.
Sid
