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z>5? Yes/No

St1. 0<z<64, can be Y&N. INSUFF

St2. 1<|z|<3*sqrt5 OR -1>z>-3*sqrt5. In both case z=<5. SUFF

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If z is an odd integer, is 300z > 1500?

(1) \(0<\sqrt{z}<8\)
(2) \(1<z^2<45\)


Please correct if wrong!!

z > 5?

1) 0 < z < 64 --> not clear weather z is bigger than 5. #insufficient
2) 1 < z < 6.7 --> possible number 5 and 3, which means that z is not > 5! #sufficient

B)
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If z is an odd integer, is 300z > 1500?

(1) \(0<\sqrt{z}<8\)
(2) \(1<z^2<45\)


Please correct if wrong!!

z > 5?

1) 0 < z < 64 --> not clear weather z is bigger than 5. #insufficient
2) 1 < z < 6.7 --> possible number 5 and 3, which means that z is not > 5! #sufficient

B)



Why don't we consider z= -3? the square of -3 will be 3 and its an odd number also (i.e -3)
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If z is an odd integer, is 300z > 1500?

(1) \(0<\sqrt{z}<8\)
(2) \(1<z^2<45\)


Please correct if wrong!!

z > 5?

1) 0 < z < 64 --> not clear weather z is bigger than 5. #insufficient
2) 1 < z < 6.7 --> possible number 5 and 3, which means that z is not > 5! #sufficient

B)



Why don't we consider z= -3? the square of -3 will be 3 and its an odd number also (i.e -3)

The question asks whether z > 5?

From (2) \(1<z^2<45\) (and the fact that we know that z is odd) it follow that z can be -5, -3, 3, and 5. For each of these values we have a NO answer to the question: z is NOT greater than 5. Sufficient.

Hope it's clear.
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z is an odd integer - but where it is mentioned that 'z' is +ve?
z can be negative, so 'B' is eliminated from the option.
But if 'A' is true then 'z' has to be +ve.

So the right answer will be 'C'.
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If z is an odd integer, is 300z>1500?

Statement 1, 0<\(\sqrt{z}\)<8
Statement 2, 1<\(z^2\)<45

Z= odd integer, is 300z>1500 ---> z>5 ?

Statement 1, \(0 < \sqrt{z} < 8\) ---> 1<z<64 so if z=3 or 5, answer is "no" but if z=7,9,11... the answer is "yes". Statement is not sufficient.

Statement 2, \(1<z^2<45\) --> only possible values are z=3 or 5, giving you a "no" . Sufficient.

B is the correct answer.

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This is what I did. But I don't know where I missed. Please correct me.

Statement 1: Given z= odd integer and 0<sqrt(Z)<8. So only possible value of Z is 1 and 300*1=300 is not greater than 1500. Answer is definitely NO. So sufficient.

Statement 2: Z= 3,5 and answer from this statement is also definite NO. So sufficient.

That is why I got D.

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If z is an odd integer, is 300z>1500?

Statement 1, 0<\(\sqrt{z}\)<8
Statement 2, 1<\(z^2\)<45

Z= odd integer, is 300z>1500 ---> z>5 ?

Statement 1, \(0 < \sqrt{z} < 8\) ---> 1<z<64 so if z=3 or 5, answer is "no" but if z=7,9,11... the answer is "yes". Statement is not sufficient.

Statement 2, \(1<z^2<45\) --> only possible values are z=3 or 5, giving you a "no" . Sufficient.

B is the correct answer.

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This is what I did. But I don't know where I missed. Please correct me.

Statement 1: Given z= odd integer and 0<sqrt(Z)<8. So only possible value of Z is 1 and 300*1=300 is not greater than 1500. Answer is definitely NO. So sufficient.

Statement 2: Z= 3,5 and answer from this statement is also definite NO. So sufficient.

That is why I got D.

Thanks.

(1) \(0 < \sqrt{z} < 8\) --> square: \(0 < z < 64\). Any odd z will work here: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, ..., 63. z's less than or equal to 5, give NO answer while greater than 5, give an YES answer. Not sufficient.
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Hi Bunuel,

I agree if I square both sides I will 0 to 64 values for Z not including 0 and 64.

But what is wrong with my method. Suppose I don't square both side and keep statement intact. I mean we are given that Z= odd integer and square root of Z is between 0 and 8. So I can selected Z=1 and square root Z is 1 which between 0 and Z. 300(1) is not greater than 1500. So statement alone is sufficient to answer.
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Hi Bunuel,

I agree if I square both sides I will 0 to 64 values for Z not including 0 and 64.

But what is wrong with my method. Suppose I don't square both side and keep statement intact. I mean we are given that Z= odd integer and square root of Z is between 0 and 8. So I can selected Z=1 and square root Z is 1 which between 0 and Z. 300(1) is not greater than 1500. So statement alone is sufficient to answer.

But you can select many other values for z. Why not 3, 5, 7, ... ? Different z's give different answers.
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z is an odd integer - but where it is mentioned that 'z' is +ve?
z can be negative, so 'B' is eliminated from the option.
But if 'A' is true then 'z' has to be +ve.

So the right answer will be 'C'.

Hi aveek86

as per the question we need to find 300z>1500 or z>5 (dividing both sides by 300)

As per statement 1 0<z^(1/2)<8, So squaring both sides will give 0<z<64. So z can be 1 and 3 or z can be 5, 7....So insufficient

Statement 2: 1<z^2<45. Now as z is odd so what all values will satisfy this inequality? "z" could be -3, -5, 3 or 5. Each of these numbers definitely shows that "z" is not greater than 5. So we have a definite NO hence Sufficient to answer the question.

So Option B
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Hi Bunuel,

I agree if I square both sides I will 0 to 64 values for Z not including 0 and 64.

But what is wrong with my method. Suppose I don't square both side and keep statement intact. I mean we are given that Z= odd integer and square root of Z is between 0 and 8. So I can selected Z=1 and square root Z is 1 which between 0 and Z. 300(1) is not greater than 1500. So statement alone is sufficient to answer.

But you can select many other values for z. Why not 3, 5, 7, ... ? Different z's give different answers.

Got your point. I was restricting my self for some values only and not understanding the question.

Thanks for clarification.
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If z is an odd integer, is 300z>1500?

Statement 1, 0<\(\sqrt{z}\)<8
Statement 2, 1<\(z^2\)<45

Z= odd integer, is 300z>1500 ---> z>5 ?

Statement 1, \(0 < \sqrt{z} < 8\) ---> 1<z<64 so if z=3 or 5, answer is "no" but if z=7,9,11... the answer is "yes". Statement is not sufficient.

Statement 2, \(1<z^2<45\) --> only possible values are z=3 or 5, giving you a "no" . Sufficient.

B is the correct answer.

300*5 =1500, and 1500 is not greater than 1500.

Had the question asked, is 300z greater than equal to 1500, the answer would have been B. In this case, there is ambiguity and hence both the statements are insufficient.
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A good question that looks innocent but is tricky enough to have me choose E!

That is not a really good start of a new year. :-(
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