Skywalker18
Took 11 mins in total, including 6 mins to read the passage.
5. Which one of the following is NOT implied by the passage?(B) Men are not image-conscious.
(C) Good looks are more important to women than to men.
6. The primary purpose of the passage is to(A) compare and contrast woman’s presence and place in society with that of man’s.
(B) discuss a woman’s presence and place in society and to contrast it with a man’s presence and place.
1. In question 6, I was in a fix between options A and B(both seem pretty similar) and chose option B because women's presence seemed more central as it was discussed in all the paragraphs.
2. In question 5, I know option B is NOT implied but can you please help with option C.
Women are image-conscious whereas men's presence depends upon power.
The answer to question 6 is B in the following link-
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https://admissiontable.com/11-gre-verba ... rehension/ )
generis , other experts - please enlighten
Skywalker18 , I do not think that questions 5 and 6 are representative of GRE or GMAT Reading Comp.
Slippery concepts are part of RC.
We are well past slippery in these questions.
These questions are hard to write, but
based on a survey I just did of OG 2018, VR 2018, and VR 2019,
questions 5 and 6 are not representative.
Both #5 and #6 are too close to call.
I think that no answer is correct in #5.
I think that I could defend A or B in #6 in a heartbeat.
I decided that #5 was B because
I thought about how the author had structured the piece.
I decided that #6 was B based on five words in the passage.
I could just as easily have picked A.
I did not recall having seen any official GMAT questions that resemble
this option 6 in which the answer comes down to a hairline distinction between
compare on one hand, and compare and contrast on the other.
So I went after data. It confirmed my memory.
Yeah . . . data. When in doubt, inspect the evidence.
I read 263 questions. In the three books I list below in the footnote,
I found two instances in which
compare and
contrast were an answer option in the same question.
One of the two in each case was obviously wrong for a reason not related to any distinction between compare or contrast.
In addition, I looked at "except" and "imply" questions.
Typically, in close calls, I can analyze for a bit and get an "aha."
Well, I analyzed #5 and #6.
No aha moments.
If Question #5 or 6 were ever on the GMAT, I would be shocked.
I. #5: No option is correct, Option (B) over (C) only because
and I sense that the author believes that he has NOT implied the contents of (B) •
5. Which one of the following is NOT implied by the passage?(B) Men are not image-conscious.This answer choice is not clear. What does "image" mean?
Nowhere in the passage do I see a clear way to separate "image-conscious"
from how men's
presence is defined.
"Image" is not self-evident and it is
never mentioned in the passage. It's too close in meaning to other concepts and should be defined.
Nowhere do I see that a man is
not conscious of his image; I assume that this state of mind depends on the promise of power
over others and especially
over women.
[sidebar: Show me a person who is not conscious of his or her power, or lack thereof,
and I will show you a statistical outlier of epic deviation.]
Nowhere do I see the suggestion that men are not image-conscious about
women.In fact, the passage suggests quite the opposite.
I disagree that (B) is a fair answer option.
The passage does imply that men are image-conscious.Here's the argument, supported by the passage:
Men are image-conscious both about themselves and about women.
Argument: Men are image-conscious about themselves.-- How do men know whether their power, pretended or otherwise, lands them
in the "striking presence" or "little presence" camp?
Does only this writer know about these categories? No. Social collusion is happening.
Men with and without power are not stupid.
-- Does the passage suggest that men do not understand the difference between these stereotypes? No. To the contrary . . .
. . . Men would not fabricate, would not pretend to have more power than they actually have,
if men were not conscious that their image ("social presence") depends on their at least seeming to have power.
Argument: Men ARE image-conscious about women.If men are not image-conscious, why do men tend to think of [a woman's presence]
as
an almost physical emanation, a kind of heat or smell or aura?
If "image" somehow belongs only to women, does the passage imply that men
. . . do not notice
women's images? No.
The sentence directly above (about aura) suggests the opposite.
Finally, why are women constantly battling the image/presence they get burdened with?
Are men
not image-conscious
about women? Not from what the passage says.
A woman must "survey everything she is and does" because how
she appears to others, and ultimately how she appears to mendetermines her success. Read: survival.
Her success depends on what
he decides.
About her image. Men survey women before treating them. Why do men do so? Because men are
not image-conscious?
Why are men assessing and "patrolling" a woman's presence and defining her as reducible to that presence /image/ appearance?
Are men "patrolling" women because men are NOT image-conscious?
--
"Her own sense of being in herself is supplanted by a sense of being appreciated as herself by another."Who, exactly is this
another? Who is the gate-keeper? Who has the power?
--
Consequently how a woman appears to a man can determine how she will be treated. Are these facts true because appearance (image?) does NOT matter to a man? No.
I just used the passage to make a good case that men are image-conscious.
The fact that "social presence" is vaguely different in kind from "image"; and the fact that men's social presence is based on perceived power
does not undermine this argument: a man absolutely is conscious of his own image and of the image of a woman.
To select option (B) as the correct answer requires a stretch that I am not willing to make. Yet.
(C) Good looks are more important to women than to men.The passage does NOT imply this statement?
Mmm . . . the author contradicts himself. "Important"
in what context?
If the statement refers to what women look for in a man:
true, I suppose, according to the passage:
A man is
striking (eye-catching) if he has or seems to have a lot of believable power.
We are into heteronormativity now, but if a straight woman is interested in a straight man,
allegedly he will "catch her eye" if he has power.
Allegedly she does not care whether he is good-looking.
But, it could be argued, a woman must care more about image than men do because according to the passage,
for a woman to succeed, she must care more about being good-looking than men do.
Answer: good looks are not more important to women in any inherent way.
Women are trying to survive and to succeed.
I could counter that argument.
I could go in circles with these arguments.
Why are women, who must please and get approval from men,
worried about appearance (including clothes and taste that must hazily refer to good looks)?
Why? Because good looks are important to
men.Men approve of a good looking woman . . . [A FACT THAT, INCIDENTALLY, CONTRADICTS B]
So how can I say which kind of important is "more" important?
I can't. The passage is does not clearly imply (C).
Or the author contradicts himself.
Below is my final argument that B is the correct answer (that is, that the passage does NOT imply (B)):
I think that B is wrong.
But I sense that the author believes he has set up a binary:
-- men worry about power and
-- women worry about image.
I don't understand which interpretation of C I should choose.
I went with instinct about the author: He thinks that B is not implied.
I think NO answer is correct in #5.
• 6. The primary purpose of the passage is to
(A) compare and contrast woman’s presence and place in society with that of man’s.
(B) discuss a woman’s presence and place in society and to contrast it with a man’s presence and place.
(C) make me crazyThe distinction between A and B
either is not defensible
or is too controversial to be tested.
-- No distinction exists, such that to choose between A and B is indefensible: To contrast is to compare.When we contrast we compare differences.
Oxford Online dictionary,
HERE, defines
contrast this way:
1.1 (with object)
Compare in such a way as
to emphasize differences.Compare? Oxford Online dictionary
defines compare here:
Estimate, measure, or note the
similarity or dissimilarity between.If contrast depends on and is part of compare, then there is no distinction between (A) and (B).
That is, to "compare and contrast" IS to contrast.
We have to
compare differences in order contrast [or to show contrast] a woman's presence and place
in society and a man's presence and place.
We're stuck. (A) and (B) say the same thing.
Distinction: compare and contrast are different.We compare similarities and we contrast differences.
It's hard to tell whether the current GRE maintains such a distinction. The distinction is controversial.
The official GRE test prep question below from 2009 (questions 8-11, pages 28-31 of the pdf),
here,has answer choices that seem to pit
contrast against
compare.
8. The passage is primarily concerned withA) showing how historians who were engaged in a particular debate influenced historians engaged in another debate
B) explaining why two initially parallel scholarly debates diverged in the 1980s
C)
comparing two scholarly debates and discussing their histories
D)
contrasting the narrow focus of one scholarly debate with the somewhat broader focus of another
E) evaluating the relative merits of the approaches used by historians engaged in two overlapping scholarly debates
Options C and D are not truly pitted against one another.
It took me 5 seconds to eliminate one of those two answers — not because
I distinguished between
compare and
contrast, but
because what follows one of those verbs is a direct object
whose content is inaccurate.
The
Answer Key is here.So in this question (6), do we choose
Option (A) that contains both
compare and
contrast, or
Option (B) that contains only
contrast?
(I don't think that "discuss" in (B) helps one way or the other)
In the passage, in terms of women's and men's presence and place, I decided that these two phrases held the key:
•
the social presence of a woman is different in kind from that of a man•
By contrast, a woman’s presence(A) uses both words, i.e.,
compare and
contrast(B) uses only
contrastB) has five words in the passage to support it.
The author includes more discussion of differences than of similarities.
Many people have learned that "compare and contrast" = talk about similarities and talk about differences.
I decided that this author equates "talking about differences" with "contrast."
For him, to talk about differences is different from
comparing.
I chose (B) for that reason alone.
I don't buy the distinction.
As mentioned, I read all RC questions from OG 2018, VR 2018, and new questions in VR 2019.
By my count, I read 263 questions.
I found
compare as one answer option of five in 9 questions (but no
contrast in other answer choices).
Eleven times I found
contrast as one option out of five options (but no
compare in other answer choices).
I found two questions in which one answer choice was
compare and one other choice was
contrast.
-- both were easily dispensed with. 5 seconds
-- whatever followed compare or contrast was easy to dismiss. I did not have to decide whether
I was comparing and contrasting on one hand, or just contrasting on the other hand.
Not one question of 263 contained distinctions as tiny as those that we find in this #5 and #6.
Good catch. Don't worry about those two questions.
Hope that helps.
*Official Guide Verbal Review 2018
Contrast only: 4(D); 26(E); 69(A); 75(B)
Compare only: 58(D); 26(E)
Compare and contrast: 62(A) and (B); 88 (B and D)
*Official Guide Verbal Review 2019
Contrast only: 28(E) --> (64(B) from 2019 = 75(B) from 2018, and same for 83(A)=69(A))
Compare only: None
Both: none, --> 2019's #82 (B and D) = VR 2018 #62 (A and B)
Official Guide 2018
Contrast only: 450(A);492(B); 497(C); 515(B) and (C) [function of ¶]; 523(E) [function of ¶]
Compare only: 423(A); 439 (A,E); 449 (B); 471(A); 508(E)
Both: none