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Are there any Average Joe Indian Applicants here?
Feeling flustered with being the only guy with a GRE score in this cruel 770 GMAT zone

Anyone applying to schools in the range 20-50?
No?


My profile outside my GMAT is pretty average. I'm applying for the first time this year, if I reapply next year, I might aim for some 20-50 progs

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Hi everyone, has anyone mentioned on their apps that they will be returning to India after graduation to work? I wonder if such a thing would make a difference?


Where you intend to go to does NOT make a difference.

The feasibility and clarity of your Goals do.
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Are there any Average Joe Indian Applicants here?
Feeling flustered with being the only guy with a GRE score in this cruel 770 GMAT zone

Anyone applying to schools in the range 20-50?
No?


My profile outside my GMAT is pretty average. I'm applying for the first time this year, if I reapply next year, I might aim for some 2-50 progs


Man the schools in the 20-50 range would dig that 770!
I too am applying for the first time in R2 this month.
My first application. Weird (bitter sweet) experience.

Excited to see what's in store for me this year :cool:
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My profile outside my GMAT is pretty average. I'm applying for the first time this year, if I reapply next year, I might aim for some 2-50 progs



With all due regards for whatever research you have done, and all your modesty, MBA apps are the last place to be humble.

Please share your profile, and details...
It may help many future applicants to discuss what (apart from a 770) brought Fin Aid, and Admits...
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Hi everyone, has anyone mentioned on their apps that they will be returning to India after graduation to work? I wonder if such a thing would make a difference?


Where you intend to go to does NOT make a difference.

The feasibility and clarity of your Goals do.


Yes, but wouldn't returning to India help avoid any potential visa issues? That would address the feasibility issue, in a sense, no? For example, aiming for a MBB role in the US vs in India wouldn't the latter seem more plausible?

Apologies if this is a bad/obvious question - I'm in the process of familiarizing myself with the visa process
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My profile outside my GMAT is pretty average. I'm applying for the first time this year, if I reapply next year, I might aim for some 2-50 progs



With all due regards for whatever research you have done, and all your modesty, MBA apps are the last place to be humble.

Please share your profile, and details...
It may help many future applicants to discuss what (apart from a 770) brought Fin Aid, and Admits...


I understand, I wouldn't state I was average on an application.

A quick overview of my profile (happy to share more):
Education: Engineering in NUS (Singapore) w 2.88 GPA
Work Experience: 2.5 years in consulting, 1.5 in investment management (but operations role there)
Extracurriculars: nothing much really, but started a small investment club with friends and some start-up consulting
MBA goal: transition to MBB focusing on fintech
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How many here got an invite from Stanford? I just saw one. This year saw unbelievably low reports from people or could be less number of invites.


So very true,
Stanford Admissions this year have been almost unpredictable, and extremely tough.
An Indian Female Engineer got a ding at Stanford, but a Full Tuition (PLUS living expenses) from Wharton.
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Hi everyone, has anyone mentioned on their apps that they will be returning to India after graduation to work? I wonder if such a thing would make a difference?


Where you intend to go to does NOT make a difference.

The feasibility and clarity of your Goals do.


Yes, but wouldn't returning to India help avoid any potential visa issues? That would address the feasibility issue, in a sense, no? For example, aiming for a MBB role in the US vs in India wouldn't the latter seem more plausible?

Apologies if this is a bad/obvious question - I'm in the process of familiarizing myself with the visa process


The School admissions process is completely separated from the Visa process. As long as the work Visa is a valid, legit process, a goal is looked at in the light of other things.

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I have a question
A seemingly important one.
For the people who claim to be reapplying,
Did you get rejected the first time with those scores and profile?
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770 n decent profiles and still rejection?


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770 and a decent profile means nothing unless post MBA goal are sound and well researched. Lets assume a marketing analyst with 3 years of ex from an Ecom applies to a school with a 750 claiming a post MBA short term goal to be a consultant at the big four. Now though he is an analyst working for the marketing department, his role would mainly be collecting and identifying trends in data. He is not interpreting the data nor creating strategies around them. Now if his UG is not a Management course he would be looking into strategies for the first time thus expecting to grow into a consultant right after an MBA in not logical


Jedimaster is so right, s/he may actually be an Ad Com member prowling the GmatClub space.. :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Apologies if this has already been discussed, but, how are Indians currently in the US planning to convert from H1B to F1? Thank you.
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Where you intend to go to does NOT make a difference.

The feasibility and clarity of your Goals do.[/quote]

Yes, but wouldn't returning to India help avoid any potential visa issues? That would address the feasibility issue, in a sense, no? For example, aiming for a MBB role in the US vs in India wouldn't the latter seem more plausible?

Apologies if this is a bad/obvious question - I'm in the process of familiarizing myself with the visa process[/quote]

The School admissions process is completely separated from the Visa process. As long as the work Visa is a valid, legit process, a goal is looked at in the light of other things.

Feel free to connect for details.[/quote]

I think the schools might look at the Visa process thing a bit more closely than assumed. I think the adcom might start taking the current H1B visa situation into the evaluation process. Post-MBA salary and employment, along with GMAT, contributes largely to the ranking. So the schools might not be willing to risk their ranking if more an more companies stop sponsoring visas for international candidates. Below is a link to a recently published article from HBS

http://www.harbus.org/2017/23106/

Truth is, it's not all hunky dory once you get into a Bschool. It's just the beginning of a long arduous journey. I personally know a lot of folks from Top10 schools who are struggling to get internships/FT jobs or coming back to India after 1 year since they did not come through the H1B lottery process.
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Truth is, it's not all hunky dory once you get into a Bschool. It's just the beginning of a long arduous journey. I personally know a lot of folks from Top10 schools who are struggling to get internships/FT jobs or coming back to India after 1 year since they did not come through the H1B lottery process.


I actually do not know a lot of them in this category from the top 10-12 schools. Generally speaking, I have heard 1-2/25 Indian students in schools like Tuck/Fuqua/Ross. Those seem to me like anomalies. It is true though that consulting and tech continue to be "safe" industries for internationals.
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Truth is, it's not all hunky dory once you get into a Bschool. It's just the beginning of a long arduous journey. I personally know a lot of folks from Top10 schools who are struggling to get internships/FT jobs or coming back to India after 1 year since they did not come through the H1B lottery process.


I actually do not know a lot of them in this category from the top 10-12 schools. Generally speaking, I have heard 1-2/25 Indian students in schools like Tuck/Fuqua/Ross. Those seem to me like anomalies. It is true though that consulting and tech continue to be "safe" industries for internationals.


Well, I’m a pessimist I would say. After talking to friends at the top 10 schools and visiting them, I think the reality is far from what is often portrayed. I did a school visit to Ross recently and the girl (indian but US citizen) who was showing us the school told the school should do better in communicating the real situation with recruitment. Most of her friends recruiting for consulting were struggling to get a good job. Her point was MBB is what everyone dreams of but truth is these jobs are only a handful and most have to settle with less prestigious roles. Saying that, I still think there is long term value in a top10 MBA.

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Apologies if this has already been discussed, but, how are Indians currently in the US planning to convert from H1B to F1? Thank you.


why do you think this would be an issue? A change of status can be easily done.
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Apologies if this has already been discussed, but, how are Indians currently in the US planning to convert from H1B to F1? Thank you.


why do you think this would be an issue? A change of status can be easily done.


I have spoken to people who have done that and I am doing it too. But I will go back to India and get my visa stamped instead of just changing the status.
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Truth is, it's not all hunky dory once you get into a Bschool. It's just the beginning of a long arduous journey. I personally know a lot of folks from Top10 schools who are struggling to get internships/FT jobs or coming back to India after 1 year since they did not come through the H1B lottery process.


I actually do not know a lot of them in this category from the top 10-12 schools. Generally speaking, I have heard 1-2/25 Indian students in schools like Tuck/Fuqua/Ross. Those seem to me like anomalies. It is true though that consulting and tech continue to be "safe" industries for internationals.


Well, I’m a pessimist I would say. After talking to friends at the top 10 schools and visiting them, I think the reality is far from what is often portrayed. I did a school visit to Ross recently and the girl (indian but US citizen) who was showing us the school told the school should do better in communicating the real situation with recruitment. Most of her friends recruiting for consulting were struggling to get a good job. Her point was MBB is what everyone dreams of but truth is these jobs are only a handful and most have to settle with less prestigious roles. Saying that, I still think there is long term value in a top10 MBA.

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I think it is on us applicants to infer that not everyone is going to make it to MBB by seeing the employment reports! I don't think any school would actually tell us explicitly that it is tough to get an offer from MBB. Also from my conversations with current students while visiting the campuses, I don't think "a lot of folks" ended up going back to India without a job. There maybe few cases but at the same time I am sure some domestic students struggle to get a job as well.
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Is it just me or there are others as well who think that the American MBA has sort of lost its glitter this time? I am seeing subdued responses in different threads, invites seem to be on an all time low for Indians and I am hearing from a few friends from the states that even finding internships is a challenge. Few graduates(MS) told me that there offers were rescinded from companies such as Salesforce.

Then obviously not getting an invite for me is another factor but still the MBA scene does look a little weird. For those who disagree, I would love to hear from them. Looking for whatever optimism I can get.

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Things have definitely changed w.r.t job offers and ease of recruitment for internationals.

I think anyone going to the US for an MBA should atleast entertain the idea of recruiting outside the US - Asia/Middle East
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Things have definitely changed w.r.t job offers and ease of recruitment for internationals.

I think anyone going to the US for an MBA should atleast entertain the idea of recruiting outside the US - Asia/Middle East


Couldn't agree more. Majority of my Indian friends who just graduated from top 10 US B Schools have recruited outside of the US. Great jobs (read MBB, bulge bracket IBs) still but just not in the US. Only 2 that I know could get a similar job in the US.
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Sorry, but that's NOT true.

Almost 80% of internationals are able to recruit for jobs within the US (within the top 16 schools - I dont have any data beyond that). This is from publicly available employment reports.

I was merely trying to state that things could get worse - ofcourse they could get better too!

EasyMBAAdmit - not sure where you are getting your info - it's definitely incomplete I can assure you.


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Things have definitely changed w.r.t job offers and ease of recruitment for internationals.

I think anyone going to the US for an MBA should atleast entertain the idea of recruiting outside the US - Asia/Middle East


Couldn't agree more. Majority of my Indian friends who just graduated from top 10 US B Schools have recruited outside of the US. Great jobs (read MBB, bulge bracket IBs) still but just not in the US. Only 2 that I know could get a similar job in the US.
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