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Hi bglade,

I’m sorry to hear how things went with your GMAT. Given your practice test scores and the fact that you had some issues at the test center, I think, on a good day, you are capable of scoring Q47+. That said, I just PM’d you, so we can hop on a call to discuss a plan moving forward.

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ScottTargetTestPrep - Thank you! I appreciate the support. I just replied to your pm. TTP has been a huge help in my GMAT preparation process. Hopefully we can figure out where I'm stumbling.
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Considering your mock test scores, i think it was just another bad test day and nothing else. On the bright side, you have a very impressive verbal score. I think 690 is a great score and you should move ahead with the applications. What are your target business schools?
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Considering your mock test scores, i think it was just another bad test day and nothing else. On the bright side, you have a very impressive verbal score. I think 690 is a great score and you should move ahead with the applications. What are your target business schools?

Hi Abhi077,

Thanks for the feedback. I am looking to transition my career into the consulting industry with a focus in social impact, although I would be open to a more generalized consulting role that provides professional development and then transitions into more of a social impact focus. My background is in retail (2 years), entrepreneurship (4.5 years, sports retail more specifically), and now Community Economic Development via Peace Corps (2 years once my service ends, grassroots-level sustainable development).

Because I am interested in going into the consulting sector, I am considering the following programs:
Harvard
Yale
Duke
Haas
Booth
Kellogg
Darden
Tuck
ASU Carey (If accepted to program and Coverdell Fellowship, would be full-ride plus stipend)

Other schools I still have an eye on include:
Wharton
Ross
Sloan
UW Foster
ND Mendoza
Penn State Smeal

Others have also suggested:
BU Questrom
Georgetown

I would like to apply Round 1 as much as possible to help my chances. I have also reached out to Pearson VUE to see if they will grant me a waiver due to the 2 hour delay at the test center and my inability to reschedule due to the financial commitment. If I am granted a waiver, then I will try and retake one more time by the start of September. If I were to move ahead with my current score (good overall, but low Quant), what do you think are my chances at the schools I have listed?

Thanks in advance for your feedback and insight.
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Yours is a unique profile among MBA applicants. Not many will be doing international volunteer work across countries and doing so for small monies.

Programs will likely look at your application in different light. It is likely your application will be considered favorably even if you have lower GMAT scores.

Re: test preparation.

Gmatclub is a good resource for tough quant practice. There are many resources available here. OGs have many excellent problems as well. Some third-party quant materials are also quite good.

For verbal practice, I recommend that you solely or mainly stick with official published materials from GMAC, ETS, LSAC, TOEFL, and IELTS. All will have excellent practice materials that will adhere strictly to official test standards. Most third-party verbal material is either confusing or ambiguous and just plain bad in many ways.
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Considering all the components you've mentioned, Your application can be very strong. I recommend that you spend more time on framing the application for R1, yes obviously if you do get a waiver, it's worth a try but think about the odds, your verbal scores of the mock vary a lot, Are you very confident that you'll score a V40 on the test on any given day? If so, surely taking gmat again would make sense. it's a gamble..for a few points of quant, you might loose out a few on verbal i.e if you're saying this verbal is your highest so far. improving/scoring high score on quant section is relatively easy. You might want to consult your admission consultant(if any) or post it on this forum about your chances https://gmatclub.com/forum/ask-admissio ... 4/?fl=menu . Goodluck with your applications. Hope you make it this time :)
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Hovkial - That is my hope. I hope that my background and experience will help set me apart in spite of my low Quant score. I believe it demonstrates that I can bring something unique to the program. I will definitely keep in mind your advice about study materials. As of right now, I think I will dedicate a couple hours a day to studying using proper materials like I have been, but I will focus the majority of my effort on preparing my applications.

Abhi077 - My thinking is in line with yours. If the opportunity presents itself where I can retake the GMAT for free, I definitely will do my best to make that happen. In the meantime, I think I will try to focus primarily on my applications with some time spent testing on the side. It all will work out in the end.
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Hi bglade,

I'm sorry to hear that Test Day did not go as well as hoped. A 690 is still a strong Score though - and it may be good enough to get you into your first-choice Program. That having been said, you've named some highly-competitive Schools and your Q43 might be seen as a 'red flag.' As such, you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile and plans. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/ask-admissio ... tants-124/

Having to wait 2 hours after your scheduled appointment time to begin your Exam almost certainly hurt your performance on Test Day, but there could have been other factors that might have also impacted your results (either during your studies or on Test Day). If you do choose to retest, then we should do our best to define (and fix) whatever those issues were.

Considering the long list of Schools that you've listed, have you broken them down into application 'groups' (some in Round 1, some in Round 2, etc.)?

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Thanks for the response! The Q43 is the aspect of the score that is bothering me the most. I did get some feedback from an Admissions Expert who gave me a list of schools that she considered to be in my target zone based on my profile. Several of my top personal choices were still in that list, so I wasn't feeling completely at a loss. I know that schools take a holistic approach to profile evaluation, but that has to be a major red flag like you said.

I'm hoping the 2 hour delay will qualify me for a waiver to retake the exam. If not, I will most likely move ahead with the score I have. Either way I am going to start working on my applications and will make use of the GMAT Club Quant Tests and the Official Mock Tests to analyse my weak areas. I will still keep up with Verbal practice as well.

I only have the Round 1 dates plotted for all of the schools currently.

If I don't retake, I'd most likely be applying the following way (bolded schools are the schools the Admission Expert said are in my target zone):
Yale - Rd 1 (Due Sept 10)
Kellogg - Rd 1 (Due Sept 18)
Haas - Rd 1 (Due Sept 26)
Darden - Rd 1 (Due Oct 4)
Tuck - Rd 1 (Due Oct 7)
Duke - Rd 1 (Due Oct 14)

Carey - Rd 2
Foster - Rd 2
Mendoza - Rd 2
Smeal - Rd 2


Schools cut from list based on GMAT: Harvard, Booth, Ross, Sloan
Schools to still consider for Rd 2: Georgetown and BU Questrom

If I do end up retaking and achieve what I know I'm capable of, then I will have to reconsider my list. I also don't think this list is final. I'll have to see how the application process goes. I don't want to sacrifice quality for quantity.

If you have any suggestions, please feel free to share them.
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Hi bglade,

Since it's been a week since you took the GMAT, have you heard anything about receiving a free/discounted retest? What interactions (phone calls/emails/etc.) have you exchanged with Pearson?

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Hi bglade,

Since it's been a week since you took the GMAT, have you heard anything about receiving a free/discounted retest? What interactions (phone calls/emails/etc.) have you exchanged with Pearson?

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Hi Rich,

I've been in email contact with their Customer Service department. They opened a case for me on Thursday evening, so I should hear back about a final decision by close of business this Thursday.

Thanks!
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Hi EMPOWERgmatRichC

I just wanted to follow-up with you. I hadn't heard from Pearson VUE within 3-5 business days, so I called them and was told that it would be another 3-5 business days. I just received word yesterday that they are willing to help me out. They are offering me a one-time discounted rate of $60 USD to retake the exam. While it isn't the full fee waiver I was hoping for, I believe it is low enough to justify retaking the exam one final time. Due to the timing, as well as a leadership position at work that I have assumed recently, I will most likely be holding out to apply in Round 2 to schools. This should give me time to prep well for the final retake, as well as hopefully create some impact in my new role, which will strengthen my applications.

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Hi bglade,

The Round 2 application deadlines will give you plenty of time to continue studying for the GMAT and strengthen other aspects of your application. I'd like to know a bit more about your timeline over the next couple of months:

1) Do you have your next Test Date scheduled yet, or do you have an idea when you would want to take it?
2) How many hours do you think you will be able to study each week going forward?

You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.

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Hi EMPOWERgmatRichC !

Thanks for the response. It seems my reply didn't post yesterday, so I am re-typing this.

1) Do you have your next Test Date scheduled yet, or do you have an idea when you would want to take it?
I do not have my next Test Date scheduled yet. My earliest Round 2 Application is due 1 December, so I think the latest I would like to sit for the exam is the week of 10-16 November. I could potentially take it earlier than that, but would need to schedule it around some other commitments.

2) How many hours do you think you will be able to study each week going forward?
I believe I could realistically study around 25 hours per week. I can spend 3 hours/day M-Fri and 5 hours/day Sat & Sun. There is potential to put even more hours in, as long as I don't burnout from studying. I should be able to also put some time into my applications during this time as well, which will be necessary since I am still considering applying to approximately 10-12 schools.

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Hi bglade,

I've sent you a PM with an analysis of your ESR and some additional notes.

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Can you please tell me how you managed V41 in verbal, May be I can help you in your Quant. Please PM if this make sense .
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Hi bglade,

I've sent you a PM with an analysis of your ESR and some additional notes.

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Thanks, Rich! I received your PM and responded. Appreciate all the help.
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