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Jeff drove two laps around a track. Was his average speed less than 60 miles per hour for the two laps? (1) Jeff's average speed for the first lap was 20 miles per hour. (2) Jeff's average speed for the second lap was 120 miles per hour. This was a question that I found in a Manhattan Prep youtube video and they didn't include the answer (argh!!!). The consensus in the comments section says answer B, but I'm struggling to see why that might be. I just spent the past hour learning about how it's impossible to get an average speed that's 2x your first lap, so that leads me to think statement 1 will always be less than 60mph. Statement 2 could be >60 or <60. Therefore I'd pick A. What am I missing?? Thanks! Link to original video: "Free GMAT Prep Hour: Rates: Distance & Work Questions in GMAT Quant"  youtube com /watch?v=qacow8Cm56Q Question is at about 1:08
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Originally posted by clueless20 on 23 Jun 2020, 23:38.
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clueless20 wrote: Jeff drove two laps around a track. Was his average speed less than 60 miles per hour for the two laps? 1) Jeff's average speed for the first lap was 20 miles per hour. 2) Jeff's average speed for the second lap was 120 miles per hour. This was a question that I found in a Manhattan Prep youtube video and they didn't include the answer (argh!!!). The consensus in the comments section says answer B, but I'm struggling to see why that might be. I just spent the past hour learning about how it's impossible to get an average speed that's 2x your first lap, so that leads me to think statement 1 will always be less than 60mph. Statement 2 could be >60 or <60. Therefore I'd pick A. What am I missing?? Thanks! Link to original video: "Free GMAT Prep Hour: Rates: Distance & Work Questions in GMAT Quant"  youtube com /watch?v=qacow8Cm56Q Question is at about 1:08 CONCEPT: The average speed is always Greater than half of two speeds given and Less than twice the two speedsTherefore Statement 2 will be sufficient Statement 1 is also SUFFICIENT because with one speed 20 average speed has to be less than 40 Average speed \(= \frac{2*20*b}{(20+b)} = \frac{40b}{20+b}\) Answer: Option D
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GMATinsight wrote: clueless20 wrote: Jeff drove two laps around a track. Was his average speed less than 60 miles per hour for the two laps? 1) Jeff's average speed for the first lap was 20 miles per hour. 2) Jeff's average speed for the second lap was 120 miles per hour. This was a question that I found in a Manhattan Prep youtube video and they didn't include the answer (argh!!!). The consensus in the comments section says answer B, but I'm struggling to see why that might be. I just spent the past hour learning about how it's impossible to get an average speed that's 2x your first lap, so that leads me to think statement 1 will always be less than 60mph. Statement 2 could be >60 or <60. Therefore I'd pick A. What am I missing?? Thanks! Link to original video: "Free GMAT Prep Hour: Rates: Distance & Work Questions in GMAT Quant"  youtube com /watch?v=qacow8Cm56Q Question is at about 1:08 CONCEPT: The average speed is always less than half of two speeds givenTherefore Statement 2 will be sufficient Statement 1 s NOT sufficient because Average speed \(= \frac{2*20*b}{(20+b)} = \frac{40b}{20+b}\) can be greater than 60 as well as less than 60 for differnet values of b which is speed of second lap Answer: Option B Thanks for the quick reply but can you try explaining another way? I'm not following. Maybe more examples or plugging in numbers would help me see this (also for statement 2 please). Is b in this case the speed of the second lap? Then to get 60 you'd set 2*20*b / (20+b) = 60 so then 40b = 60(20+b) 40b = 1200+60b 20b = 1200 b = 60 mph? This doesn't make sense yet... What else am I missing?



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clueless20 wrote: This doesn't make sense yet... What else am I missing? Have made correction in my previous post.
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GMATinsight wrote: clueless20 wrote: This doesn't make sense yet... What else am I missing? Have made correction in my previous post. Thanks! This makes me feel a little better that I wasn't imagining something. Now for statement 2... wouldn't this be insufficient? If the speed for the first lap was 40 mph, then the average for the two laps could be 60 mph, but if the speed for the first lap was 60 mph, then the average for both would be 80 mph. Is this thinking correct? So the answer would just be A?



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GMATinsight wrote: clueless20 wrote: Jeff drove two laps around a track. Was his average speed less than 60 miles per hour for the two laps? 1) Jeff's average speed for the first lap was 20 miles per hour. 2) Jeff's average speed for the second lap was 120 miles per hour. This was a question that I found in a Manhattan Prep youtube video and they didn't include the answer (argh!!!). The consensus in the comments section says answer B, but I'm struggling to see why that might be. I just spent the past hour learning about how it's impossible to get an average speed that's 2x your first lap, so that leads me to think statement 1 will always be less than 60mph. Statement 2 could be >60 or <60. Therefore I'd pick A. What am I missing?? Thanks! Link to original video: "Free GMAT Prep Hour: Rates: Distance & Work Questions in GMAT Quant"  youtube com /watch?v=qacow8Cm56Q Question is at about 1:08 CONCEPT: The average speed is always Greater than half of two speeds given and Less than twice the two speedsTherefore Statement 2 will be sufficient Statement 1 is also SUFFICIENT because with one speed 20 average speed has to be less than 40 Average speed \(= \frac{2*20*b}{(20+b)} = \frac{40b}{20+b}\) Answer: Option D I still don't understand how Stmt(2) alone is sufficient.



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GMATinsight wrote: clueless20 wrote: Jeff drove two laps around a track. Was his average speed less than 60 miles per hour for the two laps? 1) Jeff's average speed for the first lap was 20 miles per hour. 2) Jeff's average speed for the second lap was 120 miles per hour. This was a question that I found in a Manhattan Prep youtube video and they didn't include the answer (argh!!!). The consensus in the comments section says answer B, but I'm struggling to see why that might be. I just spent the past hour learning about how it's impossible to get an average speed that's 2x your first lap, so that leads me to think statement 1 will always be less than 60mph. Statement 2 could be >60 or <60. Therefore I'd pick A. What am I missing?? Thanks! Link to original video: "Free GMAT Prep Hour: Rates: Distance & Work Questions in GMAT Quant"  youtube com /watch?v=qacow8Cm56Q Question is at about 1:08 CONCEPT: The average speed is always Greater than half of two speeds given and Less than twice the two speedsTherefore Statement 2 will be sufficient Statement 1 is also SUFFICIENT because with one speed 20 average speed has to be less than 40 Average speed \(= \frac{2*20*b}{(20+b)} = \frac{40b}{20+b}\) Answer: Option D Hi GMATinsight, could you please elaborate some more on why Statement 1 is sufficient? I personally think the answer is B because: Statement 1First round = given; ave. 20 mph Second round1. Ave. speed could be 20 mph, by which the average speed of 2 laps is under 60 2. Ave. speed could be 110 mph, by which the average speed of 2 laps is 65 mph This means that Statement 1 is NOT SUFFICIENT Statement 2Second round = given; 120 mph First round1. Ave. speed could be 1 mph, by which the average speed of 2 laps is 61 2. If ave. speed is 0, the average speed of 2 laps would be 60. This means that Statement 2 is SUFFICIENT ANS. B Maybe I am missing out on something? If so, please tell me!
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I am unsure how B alone is sufficient?
> If average speed for lap 2 is 120 mph, lets say he drove 2 hours at this speed > (120)(2) = 240 miles in 1 lap. > Lets say he drove the first lap 1 mph > (1)(t) = 240, therefore it theoretically took 240 hours for the first lap. > Average speed = total distance/total time = (2)(240)/(240+2) = 1.98 mph
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GMATinsight, could you explain? I can't understand how B only is sufficient. For ex, if the average speed for the first lap is 240 mph. Each lap = 120 miles => Completing first lap needs 0.5h, second lap needs 1h => Average speed = 240 : 1.5 = 160 mph > 60 However, if the average speed for the first lap is only 20 km/h and each lap = 120 miles => Average speed = 240 : 7 = 34.2 mph < 60



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Bunuel Please help! The question didn't mention speed to be constant.



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clueless20 wrote: Jeff drove two laps around a track. Was his average speed less than 60 miles per hour for the two laps? (1) Jeff's average speed for the first lap was 20 miles per hour. (2) Jeff's average speed for the second lap was 120 miles per hour. This was a question that I found in a Manhattan Prep youtube video and they didn't include the answer (argh!!!). The consensus in the comments section says answer B, but I'm struggling to see why that might be. I just spent the past hour learning about how it's impossible to get an average speed that's 2x your first lap, so that leads me to think statement 1 will always be less than 60mph. Statement 2 could be >60 or <60. Therefore I'd pick A. What am I missing?? Thanks! Link to original video: "Free GMAT Prep Hour: Rates: Distance & Work Questions in GMAT Quant"  youtube com /watch?v=qacow8Cm56Q Question is at about 1:08 The answer should be D. May we request for some expert's opinion?



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Let the length of 1 lap be \(d\) Avg Speed for first lap = \(A\) Avg Speed for second lap = \(B\) So the total time taken is \(\frac{d}{A}+\frac{d}{B}\) Total time taken if overall average speed is \(60 = \frac{2d}{60}=\frac{d}{30}\) The question asks, is \(\frac{d}{A}+\frac{d}{B}>\frac{d}{30}\)? or is \(\frac{1}{A}+\frac{1}{B}>\frac{1}{30}\)? (1) Jeff's average speed for the first lap was 20 miles per hour. \(\frac{1}{A}=\frac{1}{20}\). Since \(\frac{1}{20}\) is already greater than \(\frac{1}{30}\), then yes, \(\frac{1}{A}+\frac{1}{B}>\frac{1}{30}\) 1 is sufficient (2) Jeff's average speed for the second lap was 120 miles per hour. \(\frac{1}{120}\) is less than \(\frac{1}{30}\) so we need to know the value of A to determine if \(\frac{1}{A}+\frac{1}{B}>\frac{1}{30}\) 2 is not sufficient Answer is (A)nick1816 can you verify the OA and post a solution?



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firas92 bhai tere answer galat nhi hote IMO it should be A too. Suppose length of 1 lap= D Time taken to complete first lap =x Time taken to complete second lap =y Average speed of 2 laps = \(\frac{2D}{x+y}\) \(0< \frac{2D}{x+y}< 2(\frac{D}{x})\).......since y>0 or \(0< \frac{2D}{x+y}< 2(\frac{D}{y})\).......since x>0 Statement 1 Average speed of Jeff for the 2 laps < 2*20 <60 sufficientStatement 2 Average speed of Jeff for the 2 laps < 2*120 Hence it can can be less than 60 or can be greater than 60. Insufficient



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ccooley Bunuel yashikaaggarwal could you please provide with the final OA and OE?



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GMATinsight wrote: clueless20 wrote: Jeff drove two laps around a track. Was his average speed less than 60 miles per hour for the two laps?
1) Jeff's average speed for the first lap was 20 miles per hour. 2) Jeff's average speed for the second lap was 120 miles per hour.
CONCEPT: The average speed is always Greater than half of two speeds given and Less than twice the two speedsTherefore Statement 2 will be sufficient Statement 1 is also SUFFICIENT because with one speed 20 average speed has to be less than 40 Average speed \(= \frac{2*20*b}{(20+b)} = \frac{40b}{20+b}\) Answer: Option D I think you mean: The average speed is always LESS than half of two speeds. Also I think you mean: Less than twice the lowest speed. Also, it is must be mentioned that the above rule is a special case when distance is the same. Example: D =100 S1=2, t1=50 & S2=5, t2=20 Average speed = 200/70 = 2.85 which less than average of 2 speeds and less than twice the lowest speed. Can you elaborate?



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Well I solved it like this, Distance of one lap = D Let Time taken at first lap = T1 , Speed = X Time taken at second lap = T2 , Speed = Y Average Speed = Total Distance/Total time taken. As = 2D/ T1+T2 Also, T1=D/X and T2 = D/Y As = 2D*XY/D(X+Y) As = 2XY/X+Y To find : 2XY/X+Y < 60 Statement 1: X = 20 2*20*Y/20+Y Let, Case 1: 2XY/X+Y > 60 40Y/20+Y > 60 40Y > 1200+60Y 1200 > 20Y Y < 60 (not possible) Case 2: 2XY/X+Y = 60 40Y/20+Y = 60 40Y = 1200+60Y 1200 = 20Y Y = 60 (not possible) Case 3: 2XY/X+Y < 60 40Y/20+Y < 60 40Y < 1200+60Y 1200 < 20Y Y > 60 (possible) {any possible value greater than zero of Y will never make an average greater than 60} , {because speed can't be negative unlike other two cases} (Sufficient) Statement 2: Y = 120 2*120*X/20+X Let, Case 1: 2XY/X+Y > 60 240X/120+X > 60 240X > 7200+60X 180X > 7200 X > 40 Case 2: 2XY/X+Y = 60 240X/120+X = 60 240X = 7200+60X 180X = 7200 X = 40 Case 3: 2XY/X+Y < 60 240X/120+X < 60 240X < 7200+60X 180X < 7200 X < 40 {infinite many Values possible, hence insufficient} Answer is A. momen Kritisood I hope this will be helpful. Posted from my mobile device



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nick1816 wrote: firas92 bhai tere answer galat nhi hote IMO it should be A too. Suppose length of 1 lap= D Time taken to complete first lap =x Time taken to complete second lap =y Average speed of 2 laps = \(\frac{2D}{x+y}\) \(0< \frac{2D}{x+y}< 2(\frac{D}{x})\).......since y>0 or \(0< \frac{2D}{x+y}< 2(\frac{D}{y})\).......since x>0 Statement 1 Average speed of Jeff for the 2 laps < 2*20 <60 sufficientStatement 2 Average speed of Jeff for the 2 laps < 2*120 Hence it can can be less than 60 or can be greater than 60. Insufficient nick, to summarise have you used the following understanding: Maximum average speed cannot be more than or equal to twice the lower speed ?



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The question is to verify whether the average speed is less than 60 miles per hour or not. We can see very beautiful numbers out there 20 miles per hour, 60 miles per hour and 120 miles per hour. So for the convenience of this problem i will consider 120 miles is the distance covered in one lap. So 2 lapse will account for 240 miles. Average speed = Total dist/Total time We know average speed limit = 60mph Therefore total time = 240/6= 4 hours. This means for a avg speed of 60 miles per hour the body should move 240miles in 4 hours
Statement 1: 20 miles per hour in one lap Now if we consider the time taken alone in this lap= 120/20= 6hours. So minimum is 6 hours so we can not achieve avg speed of 60mph because minimum time is 6hours and above So this statement alone is sufficient
Statement 2: 120mph in 2nd lap Tim taken = 120/120 =1 hour Now since we do not know the speed of other lap we cant conclude the total time is less than 4 hours or more than 4 hours. This statement alone is not sufficient.
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KritisoodThat's exactly what you can inferred from my solution. If distance covered in the 2 trips is equal, maximum average speed cannot be more than or equal to twice the lower speed.



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Kritisood wrote: nick1816 wrote: firas92 bhai tere answer galat nhi hote IMO it should be A too. Suppose length of 1 lap= D Time taken to complete first lap =x Time taken to complete second lap =y Average speed of 2 laps = \(\frac{2D}{x+y}\) \(0< \frac{2D}{x+y}< 2(\frac{D}{x})\).......since y>0 or \(0< \frac{2D}{x+y}< 2(\frac{D}{y})\).......since x>0 Statement 1 Average speed of Jeff for the 2 laps < 2*20 <60 sufficientStatement 2 Average speed of Jeff for the 2 laps < 2*120 Hence it can can be less than 60 or can be greater than 60. Insufficient nick, to summarise have you used the following understanding: Maximum average speed cannot be more than or equal to twice the lower speed ? I hope you find this link useful by one of the best instructors. https://www.beatthegmat.com/reikodrove ... 06985.html




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