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Like the grassy fields and old pastures XXXXX in the northeastern United States(where it is unlike)... there seems to be some comparision happening in option "D"...
Option "B" seems to compare "grassy fields and old pastures" with the "bird"

so "D" seems to be correct..

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Seriously, if you want to get responses from more people than just me, stop asking your question inside an attached Word document.

THE QUESTION:

Like the grassy fields and old pastures that the upland sandpiper needs for feeding and nesting when it returns in May after wintering in the Argentine Pampas, the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in farming pracitces.

a) the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in

b) the bird itself is vanishing in the northeastern United States as a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in

c) that the birds themselves are vanishing in the northeastern United States is due to residential and industrial development and changes to

d) in the northeastern United States, sandpipers' vanishing is due to residential and industrial development and to changes in

e) in the northeastern United States, the sandpipers' vanishing, a result of residential and industrial development and changing

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D, E can be eliminated straightaway.
A :- wrongly compared
B : - bird itself vanishing ... sounds awkward
C:- birds themselves vanishing ... sounds awkward and also C is unnecessary wordy
How they themselves vanishing ??
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Like the grassy fields and old pastures that the upland sandpiper needs for feeding and nesting when it returns in May after wintering in the Argentine Pampas, the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in farming practices.

(A) the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in
(B) the bird itself is vanishing in the northeastern United States as a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in
(C) that the birds themselves are vanishing in the northeastern United States is due to residential and industrial development and changes to
(D) in the northeastern United States, sandpipers’ vanishing is due to residential and industrial development and to changes in
(E) in the northeastern United States, the sandpipers’ vanishing, a result of residential and industrial development and changing
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concepts tested : Modifier ( opening modifier )

Like X..........., Y ( this place usually should be taken by a Noun )

scanning of options leads to B : Y here is THE BIRDS

further a bit of comparison : Like X ( intended meaning - which is somewhat disappearing )............., Y ( should be one ie also disappearing )

B : Like X..........., THE BIRDS

Leading to B

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Like the grassy fields and old pastures that the upland sandpiper needs for feeding and nesting when it returns in May after wintering in the Argentine Pampas, the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and ochanges in farming practices.

Meaning Analysis:

This sentence presents comparison. It compares the grassy fields and old pastures and the sandpipers. Both have been compared because both are disappearing in the northeastern United States because of residential and industrial development and changes in farming practices.

Error Analysis:

Verb-ing modifier “vanishing…” is placed next to “the sandpipers” without a comma before it. Hence, it modifies “the sandpipers”. But that’s just the modifier. The core of the sentence says “The sandpipers … is a result of…” Here the SV do not agree in number and also do not make sense with each other.

PoE:

A) the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in: Incorrect for the reason stated above.

(B) the bird itself is vanishing in the northeastern United States as a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in: Correct.

(C) that the birds themselves are vanishing in the northeastern United States is due to residential and industrial development and changes to: Incorrect.
1. This choice presents illogical comparison. “the grassy fields and old pastures” have been compared to “that”
2. Use of preposition “to” is not correct.

(D) in the northeastern United States, sandpipers’ vanishing due to residential and industrial development and to changes in: Incorrect.
1. This choice presents illogical comparison. “the grassy fields and old pastures” have been compared to “sandpipers’ vanishing”.
2. There is no verb in this sentence. It is fragment.

(E) in the northeastern United States, the sandpipers’ vanishing, a result of residential and industrial development and changing: Incorrect.
1. This choice presents illogical comparison. “the grassy fields and old pastures” have been compared to “sandpipers’ vanishing”.
2. There is no verb in this sentence. It is fragment.

This sentence tests the concepts of idiom - comparison, modifier, and SV agreement.
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"Like the grassy fields and old pastures that the upland sandpiper needs for feeding and nesting when it returns in May after wintering in the Argentine Pampas, the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in farming practices."

Answers C, D and E are clearly wrong - I don't think they need an explanation. The original sentence is incorrect not only because there is an illogical comparison, but also because the meaning of the sentence is distorted. It could be interpreted that the sandpipers vanishing AND the grassy fields and old pastures are both results of residential and industrial development/changes in farming. How can grassy fields and old pastures be the result of residential and industrial development and changes in farming? It doesn't make any sense. That is why we need 'IS vanishing' and 'AS a result of' Not 'IS a result.' That is why the answer is B.

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Like the grassy fields and old pastures that the upland sandpiper needs for feeding and nesting when it returns in May after wintering in the Argentine Pampas, the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in farming practices.
A. the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in
B. the bird itself is vanishing in the northeastern United States as a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in
C. that the birds themselves are vanishing in the northeastern United States is due to residential and industrial development and changes to
D. in the northeastern United States, sandpipers’ vanishing is due to residential and industrial development and to changes in
E. in the northeastern United States, the sandpipers’ vanishing, a result of residential and industrial development and changing

Like X,Y is the required structure .
IN the non-underline part---- It is there ...so somethings required is singular ----
C wrong --- that the birds....
D, E .... wrong comparison
in A,B
Option A also has a modifier Issue and a SV Disagreement.

"Like the grassy fields...... , the sandpipers vanishing ..." - Wrong

It should be "bird" or "Sandpiper"

Moreover " Sandpipers Vanishing " is plural . So we need a "are" to modify rather than is.

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Like the grassy fields and old pastures that the upland sandpiper needs for feeding and nesting when it return in May after wintering in the Argentina Pampas, the sandpipers vanishing in the Northeastern US is a result of residential and industrial development and of change in farming practices
A. the same
B.the bird itself is vanishing in the Northeastern US as a result of residential and industrial development and of change in
C.that the birds themselves are vanishing in the Northeastern US is due to residential and industrial development and changes to
D. in the Northeastern US,sandpipers' vanishing is due to residential and industrial development and to change in
E.in the Northeastern US,the sandpipers' vanishing,a result of residential and industrial development and changing


hard one.
in B, bird can be compared logically with field and pastures in this context. both bird and fields and pasture do the same action, vanishing. for this reason, like is used . as is used to show two actions is done in the same way. the difference between uses of as and like is about meaning not about grammar. if we say like is used to compared noun, as is used to compare actions, we do not fully understand the their use.
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Like the grassy fields and old pastures that the upland sandpiper needs for feeding and nesting when it returns in May after wintering in the Argentine Pampas, the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in farming practices.

(A) the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in
there is no verb in this sentence
(B) the bird itself is vanishing in the northeastern United States as a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in
Nike
(C) that the birds themselves are vanishing in the northeastern United States is due to residential and industrial development and changes to
the bird here is a population and should be singular + non-parrael
(D) in the northeastern United States, sandpipers' vanishing due to residential and industrial development and to changes in
no verb
(E) in the northeastern United States, the sandpipers' vanishing, a result of residential and industrial development and changing
no verb

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Like the grassy fields and old pastures that the upland sandpiper needs for feeding and nesting when it returns in May after wintering in the Argentine Pampas, the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in farming practices.

A. the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States IS a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in
B. the bird itself is vanishing in the northeastern United States as a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in
C. that the birds themselves are vanishing in the northeastern United States is due to residential and industrial development and changes to
D. in the northeastern United States, sandpipers' vanishing is due to residential and industrial development and to changes in
E. in the northeastern United States, the sandpipers' vanishing, a result of residential and industrial development and changing

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RESULT

RIGHT:

Wealth RESULTS FROM work.
Work RESULTS IN wealth.
Wealth IS A RESULT OF work.
Wealth grows AS A RESULT OF work.
AS A RESULT OF our work, our wealth grew.
The RESULT OF our work WAS THAT our wealth grew.

WRONG:

We worked WITH THE RESULT OF wealth.
We worked WITH A RESULTING growth of wealth.
RESULTING FROM our work, our wealth grew.
BECAUSE OF THE RESULT OF our work, our wealth grew.
The RESULT OF our work WAS our wealth grew. (THAT is needed.)
The growth of wealth RESULTS.

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If you write "the sandpipers vanishing", then "sandpipers" is the subject ("vanishing" is a modifier describing that subject). The subject "sandpipers " doesn't agree with the singular verb "is".

GENERAL NOTE:
This sentence starts out with "like the grassy fields and old pastures...". The COMPARISON here is between those fields and pastures (which are disappearing) and the bird (which is also disappearing); therefore, to make this comparison valid, the next sentence MUST start with "the bird" or "the sandpiper". It can't start with anything else.

(c)
Invalid comparison; this clause starts with "that the birds are vanishing...", rather than with the bird itself.
This choice is also hopelessly awkward, although it may take a native speaker's eye to see that.

(d)
Invalid comparison; the subject here is the sandpipers' vanishing, rather than the sandpiper itself.
"in the NE united states" is also inserted in a bad place; the comparison element should come at the head of this construction.
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Like X..., Y
Like "the grassy fields and old pastures".....,the bird itself

Not sure how can we compare ""the grassy fields and old pastures" with "the bird".
Doesn't make sense.

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Like X..., Y
Like "the grassy fields and old pastures".....,the bird itself

Not sure how can we compare ""the grassy fields and old pastures" with "the bird".
Doesn't make sense.


Got it now. Looks like the sentence meant:

Like the grassy fields and old pastures [that are vanishing] that the upland sandpiper needs for feeding and nesting when it returns in May after wintering in the Argentine Pampas, the bird itself is vanishing in the northeastern United States as a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in farming practices.

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Like the grassy fields and old pastures that the upland sandpiper needs for feeding and nesting when it returns in May after wintering in the Argentine Pampas, the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in farming practices.

This is a COMPARISON question.

(A) the sandpipers vanishing in the northeastern United States is a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in

- "the sandpipers vanishing" is compared "the grassy fields and old pastures" - illogical comparison
- "sandpipers" - is plural and should be followed by a plural noun "are" and not "is"


(B) the bird itself is vanishing in the northeastern United States as a result of residential and industrial development and of changes in

- Correct - The Noun "the bird itself" is compared with "the grassy fields and old pastures". As the question starts with Like, we should having a Noun Vs. Noun comparison.

(C) that the birds themselves are vanishing in the northeastern United States is due to residential and industrial development and changes to

- Invalid comparison "that the birds themselves" with "the grassy fields and old pastures"

(D) in the northeastern United States, sandpipers' vanishing due to residential and industrial development and to changes in

- Illogical comparison between "sandpipers' vanishing" to "the grassy fields and old pastures"

(E) in the northeastern United States, the sandpipers' vanishing, a result of residential and industrial development and changing

- Illogical comparison between "sandpipers' vanishing" to "the grassy fields and old pastures"

Hence, Answer is B

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(A) I think the 'sandpipers', having already been mentioned with respect to fields and pastures, needs some qualification as in choice B to make the sentence more clear.
(B) Best Choice
(C) awkward construction
(D & E) Verb 'are' or 'is' is missing


Although I've marked B, I am not sure if my logic is sound. Could you please suggest how B is correct. :)
I mean, your approach. :roll:
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This was one of the toughest Official i have faced .
Imo B
Only this options makes sense .
The explanation of the are really good to clarify many concepts that are there in this question.
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(A) I think the 'sandpipers', having already been mentioned with respect to fields and pastures, needs some qualification as in choice B to make the sentence more clear.
(B) Best Choice
(C) awkward construction
(D & E) Verb 'are' or 'is' is missing


Although I've marked B, I am not sure if my logic is sound. Could you please suggest how B is correct. :)
I mean, your approach. :roll:


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