It is currently 17 Dec 2017, 06:06

Close

GMAT Club Daily Prep

Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.

Close

Request Expert Reply

Confirm Cancel

Events & Promotions

Events & Promotions in June
Open Detailed Calendar

Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam

  new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  
Author Message
TAGS:

Hide Tags

4 KUDOS received
Director
Director
avatar
Joined: 21 Dec 2009
Posts: 580

Kudos [?]: 857 [4], given: 20

Concentration: Entrepreneurship, Finance
Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 31 Dec 2011, 14:38
4
This post received
KUDOS
24
This post was
BOOKMARKED
00:00
A
B
C
D
E

Difficulty:

  65% (hard)

Question Stats:

47% (00:42) correct 53% (00:46) wrong based on 814 sessions

HideShow timer Statistics

Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam produced by boiling water, but rather, high-pressure fluids are transmitted throughout the machine to various motors and hydraulic cylinders.

a) water, but rather
b) water, but instead
c) water; instead
d) water; rather
e) water; but

[Reveal] Spoiler:
According to some gmat rules, "rather than" can take on either a clause or noun,
while "instead of" goes with only a noun.
In the question above, the portion after the underlined part is clearly a clause; in that case,
the correct response should be D right?
[Reveal] Spoiler: OA

_________________

KUDOS me if you feel my contribution has helped you.

Kudos [?]: 857 [4], given: 20

Senior Manager
Senior Manager
avatar
Joined: 13 May 2011
Posts: 292

Kudos [?]: 294 [0], given: 11

WE 1: IT 1 Yr
WE 2: Supply Chain 5 Yrs
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 31 Dec 2011, 21:34
i was thinking of E. Because of not.....but ||ism

Kudos [?]: 294 [0], given: 11

5 KUDOS received
Retired Moderator
User avatar
P
Status: worked for Kaplan's associates, but now on my own, free and flying
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 4321

Kudos [?]: 8358 [5], given: 366

Location: India
WE: Education (Education)
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 01 Jan 2012, 09:12
5
This post received
KUDOS
2
This post was
BOOKMARKED
Neither the prepositional phrase ‘rather than’ nor ‘instead of’ is part of the choices in the issue. Only rather and instead are the issues. Hence, I feel there is no need to confuse with unmentioned choices here. . The thing to note is that that an independent but somewhat related clause should follow a semicolon.

Choices A and B fall out because of the redundant use of ‘but rather’ and ‘but instead’. Among the adverbs -instead and rather - and the conjunction ‘but, IMO, ‘instead’ fits into the groove better because of the precise meaning of “in that place” which is better than mere contrast markers such as ‘rather and but’

C is a winner by a whisker
_________________

Can you solve at least some SC questions without delving into the initial statement?

Narendran 98845 44509

Kudos [?]: 8358 [5], given: 366

Senior Manager
Senior Manager
avatar
Joined: 22 Dec 2011
Posts: 295

Kudos [?]: 307 [0], given: 32

Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 09 Nov 2012, 10:22
3
This post was
BOOKMARKED
Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam produced by boiling water, but rather, high-pressure fluids are transmitted throughout the machine to various motors and hydraulic cylinders.

a) water, but rather
b) water, but instead
c) water; instead
d) water; rather
e) water; but

OA after some discussion.

Kudos [?]: 307 [0], given: 32

Board of Directors
User avatar
G
Joined: 01 Sep 2010
Posts: 3425

Kudos [?]: 9542 [0], given: 1203

Re: Machines powered by hydraulics... Veritas SC. [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 09 Nov 2012, 11:44
Jp27 wrote:
Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam produced by boiling water, but rather, high-pressure fluids are transmitted throughout the machine to various motors and hydraulic cylinders.

a) water, but rather
b) water, but instead
c) water; instead
d) water; rather
e) water; but

OA after some discussion.



as usual the short sentence are the most tricky one

Here we need a sort of contrast but soft. Infact if we introduce a semicolon seems that the two indipendent cluase are two distinct things

I'll go for B
_________________

COLLECTION OF QUESTIONS AND RESOURCES
Quant: 1. ALL GMATPrep questions Quant/Verbal 2. Bunuel Signature Collection - The Next Generation 3. Bunuel Signature Collection ALL-IN-ONE WITH SOLUTIONS 4. Veritas Prep Blog PDF Version 5. MGMAT Study Hall Thursdays with Ron Quant Videos
Verbal:1. Verbal question bank and directories by Carcass 2. MGMAT Study Hall Thursdays with Ron Verbal Videos 3. Critical Reasoning_Oldy but goldy question banks 4. Sentence Correction_Oldy but goldy question banks 5. Reading-comprehension_Oldy but goldy question banks

Kudos [?]: 9542 [0], given: 1203

1 KUDOS received
Retired Moderator
User avatar
P
Status: worked for Kaplan's associates, but now on my own, free and flying
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 4321

Kudos [?]: 8358 [1], given: 366

Location: India
WE: Education (Education)
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics... Veritas SC. [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 09 Nov 2012, 22:06
1
This post received
KUDOS
Choices A and B fall out because of the redundancy of ‘but rather’ and ‘but instead’. Among the adverbs -instead and rather - and the conjunction ‘but, IMO, ‘instead’ fits in the groove better because its precise meaning “in the place” fits in smugly over the contrast - markers,-- but and rather.--

C is a winner by a whisker
_________________

Can you solve at least some SC questions without delving into the initial statement?

Narendran 98845 44509

Kudos [?]: 8358 [1], given: 366

5 KUDOS received
VP
VP
User avatar
Status: Been a long time guys...
Joined: 03 Feb 2011
Posts: 1375

Kudos [?]: 1723 [5], given: 62

Location: United States (NY)
Concentration: Finance, Marketing
GPA: 3.75
GMAT ToolKit User Premium Member
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics... Veritas SC. [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 09 Nov 2012, 22:53
5
This post received
KUDOS
7
This post was
BOOKMARKED
Jp27 wrote:
Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam produced by boiling water, but rather, high-pressure fluids are transmitted throughout the machine to various motors and hydraulic cylinders.

a) water, but rather
b) water, but instead
c) water; instead
d) water; rather
e) water; but

OA after some discussion.


In this sentence the logic is "in place of x, y does something". Please note that in such cases where x is replaced by y, "instead" is correct ; but in cases where x is prefferred over y, "rather" is used.
Moreover, no contast given by "but" is needed here. There is just a replacement.
The two clauses separated apart by ";" are purely independent. To separate such clauses, either ", + conjuncting verb" or "; instead" is preferred. But since there is no need of "but" here, hence only correct option is C.
_________________

Prepositional Phrases Clarified|Elimination of BEING| Absolute Phrases Clarified
Rules For Posting
www.Univ-Scholarships.com

Kudos [?]: 1723 [5], given: 62

Manager
Manager
User avatar
Status: prepping all the way !
Joined: 06 Dec 2011
Posts: 92

Kudos [?]: 119 [0], given: 41

Location: India
Concentration: Entrepreneurship, Finance
Schools: ISB '15
GPA: 3.49
WE: Analyst (Computer Software)
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics... Veritas SC. [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 09 Nov 2012, 23:25
Jp27 wrote:
Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam produced by boiling water, but rather, high-pressure fluids are transmitted throughout the machine to various motors and hydraulic cylinders.

a) water, but rather
b) water, but instead
c) water; instead
d) water; rather
e) water; but

OA after some discussion.



I go with C too.

1. A preference do something over something is not indicated by the meaning of the sentence, so eliminate rather in that case . also but rather is redundant. So A, D are out.
2. E is clearly wrong coz but ( or any coordinating conjunction should be preceded by a comma and not a semicolon)
3. We now need to decide between B & C, I go for C because both sentences are independent and also but instead is redundant.

Kudos [?]: 119 [0], given: 41

VP
VP
avatar
Status: Final Lap Up!!!
Affiliations: NYK Line
Joined: 21 Sep 2012
Posts: 1074

Kudos [?]: 672 [0], given: 70

Location: India
GMAT 1: 410 Q35 V11
GMAT 2: 530 Q44 V20
GMAT 3: 630 Q45 V31
GPA: 3.84
WE: Engineering (Transportation)
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics... Veritas SC. [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 10 Nov 2012, 01:24
I too agree with C

Most people may get foxed by Not X , But Y construction Or Not X , But rather Y............... A is out as it uses cpmma for the two independent clauses.
E remains since there is no //rism followed, hence this too is out....It should be Not by X ; but by Y.........

Hence only remaining correct option is C

Kudos [?]: 672 [0], given: 70

AGSM Thread Master
User avatar
Joined: 19 Jul 2012
Posts: 169

Kudos [?]: 271 [0], given: 31

Location: India
Concentration: Marketing, International Business
GMAT 1: 630 Q49 V28
GPA: 3.3
GMAT ToolKit User
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics... Veritas SC. [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 10 Nov 2012, 03:18
Will go with C.

A & B both provide independent clause marker ", but". It's better to use Semicolon.
Between Instead and rather, prefer "instead" as the reason Y replaces X.

Kudos [?]: 271 [0], given: 31

Senior Manager
Senior Manager
avatar
Joined: 22 Dec 2011
Posts: 295

Kudos [?]: 307 [0], given: 32

Re: Machines powered by hydraulics... Veritas SC. [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 11 Nov 2012, 11:54
Hey - Opion D "; rather" - Are there any grammatical reasons for which we can eliminate this option.
Consider the below sentence.

I will get my car rims finished in Matt grey rather in black
I will get my car rims finished in Matt grey instead of black.

both seem right. :!:

Cheers

Kudos [?]: 307 [0], given: 32

VP
VP
avatar
Status: Final Lap Up!!!
Affiliations: NYK Line
Joined: 21 Sep 2012
Posts: 1074

Kudos [?]: 672 [0], given: 70

Location: India
GMAT 1: 410 Q35 V11
GMAT 2: 530 Q44 V20
GMAT 3: 630 Q45 V31
GPA: 3.84
WE: Engineering (Transportation)
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics... Veritas SC. [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 11 Nov 2012, 14:56
Jp27 wrote:
Hey - Opion D "; rather" - Are there any grammatical reasons for which we can eliminate this option.
Consider the below sentence.

I will get my car rims finished in Matt grey rather in black
I will get my car rims finished in Matt grey instead of black.

both seem right. :!:

Cheers



Hi JP 27

I think the later one is correct, you can not use rather fro noun
black and matt grey both are noun, hence you have to use instead.

Moreover, you are choosing black over matt grey ie.. you are replacing.
hence instead to be used.

Kudos [?]: 672 [0], given: 70

1 KUDOS received
VP
VP
User avatar
Status: Been a long time guys...
Joined: 03 Feb 2011
Posts: 1375

Kudos [?]: 1723 [1], given: 62

Location: United States (NY)
Concentration: Finance, Marketing
GPA: 3.75
GMAT ToolKit User Premium Member
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics... Veritas SC. [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 11 Nov 2012, 19:23
1
This post received
KUDOS
Jp27 wrote:
Hey - Opion D "; rather" - Are there any grammatical reasons for which we can eliminate this option.
Consider the below sentence.

I will get my car rims finished in Matt grey rather in black
I will get my car rims finished in Matt grey instead of black.

both seem right. :!:

Cheers


Hii JP.
IMO both sentences are grammatically correct. Meaning wise, the intent is changing.
In 1) you prefer Matt grey over black
In 2) you just wanna replace Matt grey with black.
Hope that helps.
_________________

Prepositional Phrases Clarified|Elimination of BEING| Absolute Phrases Clarified
Rules For Posting
www.Univ-Scholarships.com

Kudos [?]: 1723 [1], given: 62

Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 31 Aug 2012
Posts: 43

Kudos [?]: 8 [0], given: 52

GPA: 3.65
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics... Veritas SC. [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 18 Nov 2012, 02:16
Marcab wrote:
Jp27 wrote:
Hey - Opion D "; rather" - Are there any grammatical reasons for which we can eliminate this option.
Consider the below sentence.

I will get my car rims finished in Matt grey rather in black
I will get my car rims finished in Matt grey instead of black.

both seem right. :!:

Cheers


Hii JP.
IMO both sentences are grammatically correct. Meaning wise, the intent is changing.
In 1) you prefer Matt grey over black
In 2) you just wanna replace Matt grey with black.
Hope that helps.




you mean to say we use instead for replacement and rather for preferences,,,plz clear it to me thanks

Kudos [?]: 8 [0], given: 52

VP
VP
User avatar
Status: Been a long time guys...
Joined: 03 Feb 2011
Posts: 1375

Kudos [?]: 1723 [0], given: 62

Location: United States (NY)
Concentration: Finance, Marketing
GPA: 3.75
GMAT ToolKit User Premium Member
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics... Veritas SC. [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 18 Nov 2012, 05:44
1
This post was
BOOKMARKED
Maryam787 wrote:
Marcab wrote:
Jp27 wrote:
Hey - Opion D "; rather" - Are there any grammatical reasons for which we can eliminate this option.
Consider the below sentence.

I will get my car rims finished in Matt grey rather in black
I will get my car rims finished in Matt grey instead of black.

both seem right. :!:

Cheers


Hii JP.
IMO both sentences are grammatically correct. Meaning wise, the intent is changing.
In 1) you prefer Matt grey over black
In 2) you just wanna replace Matt grey with black.
Hope that helps.




you mean to say we use instead for replacement and rather for preferences,,,plz clear it to me thanks


Yes.
Use Instead for replacement and rather for preference.
Also note that if there is "instead of", then make sure that "instead of" is followed by a noun. It is so because "of" is a preposition and all prepositions are followed by a noun.
Hope that helps.
_________________

Prepositional Phrases Clarified|Elimination of BEING| Absolute Phrases Clarified
Rules For Posting
www.Univ-Scholarships.com

Kudos [?]: 1723 [0], given: 62

Manager
Manager
User avatar
Joined: 04 Oct 2011
Posts: 213

Kudos [?]: 64 [0], given: 44

Location: India
Concentration: Entrepreneurship, International Business
GMAT 1: 440 Q33 V13
GPA: 3
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics... Veritas SC. [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 19 Nov 2012, 18:55
Marcab wrote:
Yes.
Use Instead for replacement and rather for preference.
Also note that if there is "instead of", then make sure that "instead of" is followed by a noun. It is so because "of" is a preposition and all prepositions are followed by a noun.
Hope that helps.




Great !!!
first i choose D.. but i was wrong i guess :cry:
_________________

GMAT - Practice, Patience, Persistence
Kudos if u like :)

Kudos [?]: 64 [0], given: 44

Manager
Manager
User avatar
Joined: 24 Mar 2010
Posts: 76

Kudos [?]: 81 [0], given: 134

Re: Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 22 Dec 2012, 10:49
I am unable to comprehend as to why A is incorrect.

Views, please?
_________________

- Stay Hungry, stay Foolish -

Kudos [?]: 81 [0], given: 134

2 KUDOS received
BSchool Forum Moderator
avatar
Joined: 23 Jul 2010
Posts: 556

Kudos [?]: 998 [2], given: 321

GPA: 3.4
WE: General Management (Non-Profit and Government)
GMAT ToolKit User Premium Member
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 22 Dec 2012, 12:45
2
This post received
KUDOS
1
This post was
BOOKMARKED
eaakbari wrote:
I am unable to comprehend as to why A is incorrect.

Views, please?


Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam produced by boiling water, but rather,
high-pressure fluids are transmitted throughout the machine to various motors and hydraulic cylinders.

a) water, but rather
b) water, but instead
c) water; instead
d) water; rather
e) water; but

Both options A and B are wrong due to redundancy issues ie but and rather BOTH show contrast , so only one of them is needed.
similarly instead and but have the same problem

AND instead is preferred to Rather here bcoz instead stands for replacement of one thing for another (high-pressure fuilds for steam) whereas rather stands for a choice b/w 2 alternatives or things. So it is C

Hope it is clear.
_________________

How to select your BSchool?
General Mistakes to Avoid on the GMAT
TOP 10 articles on Time Management on the GMAT
Thanks = Kudos. Kudos are appreciated

Rules for posting on the verbal forum

Kudos [?]: 998 [2], given: 321

Manager
Manager
avatar
Joined: 04 Oct 2013
Posts: 87

Kudos [?]: 88 [0], given: 45

Location: Brazil
GMAT 1: 660 Q45 V35
GMAT 2: 710 Q49 V38
Reviews Badge
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics... Veritas SC. [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 16 Dec 2013, 10:09
Why is the expression "but rather" not redundant in the idiomatic form "not x, but rather y"? Or why is it redundant when it stands alone? I don't get it...



Archit143 wrote:
I too agree with C

Most people may get foxed by Not X , But Y construction Or Not X , But rather Y............... A is out as it uses cpmma for the two independent clauses.
E remains since there is no //rism followed, hence this too is out....It should be Not by X ; but by Y.........

Hence only remaining correct option is C

Kudos [?]: 88 [0], given: 45

1 KUDOS received
Current Student
User avatar
Status: Everyone is a leader. Just stop listening to others.
Joined: 22 Mar 2013
Posts: 954

Kudos [?]: 1937 [1], given: 229

Location: India
GPA: 3.51
WE: Information Technology (Computer Software)
Premium Member Reviews Badge
Re: Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 16 Dec 2013, 11:44
1
This post received
KUDOS
In MGMAT SC Chapter-9, Idiom : NOT..BUT, but rather and but instead are used in correct sentences.
e.g. A tomato is not a vegetable BUT RATHER a fruit.

I know in this question we need a coordinating conjunction to join two independent clause or ; , but making a claim that but instead or but rather together are redundant is challenging usage as mentioned in above stated example. Could anyone please help to clarify when it will be redundant and when it is ok ?
_________________

Piyush K
-----------------------
Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is to try just one more time. ― Thomas A. Edison
Don't forget to press--> Kudos :)
My Articles: 1. WOULD: when to use? | 2. All GMATPrep RCs (New)
Tip: Before exam a week earlier don't forget to exhaust all gmatprep problems specially for "sentence correction".

Kudos [?]: 1937 [1], given: 229

Re: Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam   [#permalink] 16 Dec 2013, 11:44

Go to page    1   2    Next  [ 34 posts ] 

Display posts from previous: Sort by

Machines powered by hydraulics are not driven by the steam

  new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  


GMAT Club MBA Forum Home| About| Terms and Conditions| GMAT Club Rules| Contact| Sitemap

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne

Kindly note that the GMAT® test is a registered trademark of the Graduate Management Admission Council®, and this site has neither been reviewed nor endorsed by GMAC®.