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(And adkikani, I'm planning to discuss the capuchin monkey question in this Wednesday's webinar. It fits nicely with the theme.)

Thanks a ton!! It is nice to see at least my understanding of level of Qs you take on webinar matches with yours :lol: :lol:
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As threatened, here are the questions for the webinar. Once again, I strongly strongly recommend printing these out before the webinar begins -- it'll make the lesson much more useful. And if you have some extra time on your hands, you can check out last week's video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2nVgm4d8mQ. This week's will build on the fundamentals we discussed last time.

See you at 7:30 a.m. Pacific time! Same place as usual: https://www.youtube.com/user/gmatclub
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Going LIVE in 10 mins. See you guys on YouTube

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ManishKM1, the explanation for the space station question is now available here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/qotd-buildin ... l#p1967568. Let me know if it doesn't address your doubts -- feel free to ask any followups directly on that thread.
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As we come close to last Nov session and are taking a break in next month.
I wish to thank Experts and GC members for taking this (first of its sorts) session to new heights.

Hopefully few of us shall be applying the learning from discussions to post eventful success stories!!
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Hello GMATNinja,

Sensie I am feeling the heat of "evaluation of argument" type questions. Could you please point out a good source to revisit. I have been absolutely thumped by these questions since 3 days.

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Sensie I am feeling the heat of "evaluation of argument" type questions. Could you please point out a good source to revisit. I have been absolutely thumped by these questions since 3 days.

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Hm, you're struggling with "evaluate the argument" questions, but not strengthen, weaken, or assumption questions? They're all awfully similar, it's just that the "evaluate the argument questions" are sort of bi-directional or non-directional: the piece of information you're looking for could potentially strengthen OR weaken the argument.

Which specific questions are giving you trouble? They're official questions? Maybe reply with a bunch of links to the ones that are causing trouble, and then maybe I can add them to the next few rounds of QOTDs if they're good examples?
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Sensie I am feeling the heat of "evaluation of argument" type questions. Could you please point out a good source to revisit. I have been absolutely thumped by these questions since 3 days.

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Hm, you're struggling with "evaluate the argument" questions, but not strengthen, weaken, or assumption questions? They're all awfully similar, it's just that the "evaluate the argument questions" are sort of bi-directional or non-directional: the piece of information you're looking for could potentially strengthen OR weaken the argument.

Which specific questions are giving you trouble? They're official questions? Maybe reply with a bunch of links to the ones that are causing trouble, and then maybe I can add them to the next few rounds of QOTDs if they're good examples?

Hello GMATNinja,

Sorry for the delayed response.

I don't know the source of all the questions, but the links are as follows: [4th one is definitely official]
1. https://gmatclub.com/forum/advertisers- ... 15464.html
2. https://gmatclub.com/forum/despite-all- ... 67046.html
3. https://gmatclub.com/forum/over-the-las ... 53344.html
4. https://gmatclub.com/forum/qotd-meat-fr ... 52790.html

Could you please suggest whether these are worth spending time on?

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Could you take up this general Q which must have been encountered in
past while dealing with students preparing for GMAT?

One or another online courses provides tons of online videos (60-80hrs) and
practice Qs (800-1200) to strengthen basics of concepts tested in GMAT.
I believe the best approach for a student is to jump to OG to gauge waters by actually diving in
after seeing video modules. But assuming he has less than 60% accuracy on OG and instead
of proceeding further one realizes it is better to go to basics and know which application one falters on
and he may well do few non-OG Qs to apply what he had learnt. As per you what is the
best trade off between practicing non-OG Qs (in terms of a number) from online courses to
return back to OG given quota of OG is limited?


We have tons and tons of debate over Qs from non official sources but while dealing
with them one tends to overthink during actual practice - Why is this not getting in my head?!!? :oops: :x
and spend invaluable time over it.

Hope it is not a too nasty Q !! :lol: :lol:
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Sorry everybody, we're postponing this week's session to THURSDAY at the usual time. Thanks to a horrendous traffic jam between Pune and Bombay, our esteemed producer is unavailable to perform his usual duties on Wednesday. The 148-km journey, I'm told, might take a total of 34 hours.

Or something like that. The numbers are approximate. ;)

See you all on THURSDAY at 7:30 a.m. Pacific/9:00 p.m. IST!
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Thanks GMATNinja for the kindness. I shall be back with my might tomorrow same time for the verbal livestream :)
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Thanks GMATNinja for the kindness. I shall be back with my might tomorrow same time for the verbal livestream :)

Where are you struck bro? Is it advisable to go towards BKC tonight?
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Sorry for the delayed response.

I don't know the source of all the questions, but the links are as follows: [4th one is definitely official]
1. https://gmatclub.com/forum/advertisers- ... 15464.html
2. https://gmatclub.com/forum/despite-all- ... 67046.html
3. https://gmatclub.com/forum/over-the-las ... 53344.html
4. https://gmatclub.com/forum/qotd-meat-fr ... 52790.html

Could you please suggest whether these are worth spending time on?

Regards
My turn to apologize for the slow response! Honestly, I wouldn't worry at all about any of them, other than the very last one -- the OG question. And even that one is pretty tough, so I wouldn't assume that it's a sign that you're fundamentally struggling on "evaluate the argument" questions. If you feel like you really don't fundamentally understand how those questions work, that might be reason to worry -- but of the four you mentioned, three are of very dubious quality. :)

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Could you take up this general Q which must have been encountered in
past while dealing with students preparing for GMAT?

One or another online courses provides tons of online videos (60-80hrs) and
practice Qs (800-1200) to strengthen basics of concepts tested in GMAT.
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best trade off between practicing non-OG Qs (in terms of a number) from online courses to
return back to OG given quota of OG is limited?


We have tons and tons of debate over Qs from non official sources but while dealing
with them one tends to overthink during actual practice - Why is this not getting in my head?!!? :oops: :x
and spend invaluable time over it.

Hope it is not a too nasty Q !! :lol: :lol:
Heh, it would take an entire book chapter to answer this one accurately and thoroughly. A related discussion can be found on this thread about LSAT materials: https://gmatclub.com/forum/actual-lsat- ... l#p1964284

The quick version: for quant, I don't think there's much harm in doing non-official questions, as long as you save some of the good stuff for close to your exam. On verbal, I think that non-official questions are deeply, deeply problematic, and I almost never let my students use them at all. Even the ones we've written ourselves.

The question of how to mix official GMAT with "other" questions (LSAT for verbal, non-official stuff for quant) just depends on the person. If you're fortunate enough not to need much extra practice, then you might not need anything other than the OG and quant/verbal guides and GMATPrep software. If you're less fortunate? You might have to be really, really careful to save the best official materials for close to your exam, and use other questions as "filler" until then.

I'm trying to finish up an article about how to stretch your official GMAT verbal materials -- I can't promise that I'll manage to post it before the babypocalypse (coming any moment!) but I'll do my best, since some of it is related to your questions.
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Super excited to hear about topics planned to cover in up-coming sessions.
See you around sooner for second innings !! :thumbup:
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And here are the examples that we'll use for today's webinar on strengthen, weaken, and assumption questions. See you all on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/gmatclub

If you have access to a printer, I strongly recommend printing these out before watching the webinar.

Can you do a few more sessions on CR, with more on those tough Assumptions that test the structure, logic and those subtle modifiers :)
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Can you do a few more sessions on CR, with more on those tough Assumptions that test the structure, logic and those subtle modifiers :)

We'll definitely be back in 2018 with a new series of live webinars, dedicated to helping GMAT Club members develop a stronger, wiser GMAT mindset across ALL question types -- both quant and verbal. We'll provide an updated schedule in the next month or two. CR will definitely be a part of that picture, though I can't promise that assumptions will be an immediate priority, since we already did parts of two videos on them. :-)

Huge thanks to everybody who watched, commented, participated, or offered any sort of feedback or support for this first round of videos! These initial 10 videos were very much an experiment from my point of view, and I learned a ton from all of it. Feel free to keep the feedback coming on this thread, and hit the "follow" button at the top of the page for updates on the next video series.

See you all on YouTube again in the new year!
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