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Awesome! Makes me even happier about my decision to apply to Ross and not Yale.
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Awesome! Makes me even happier about my decision to apply to Ross and not Yale.


What is your GMAT score?

All the best for Ross :-)
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Awesome! Makes me even happier about my decision to apply to Ross and not Yale.


What is your GMAT score?

All the best for Ross :-)


Thanks! I have a 760. Why do you ask BTW?
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Ross is a terrific school, but rejecting Yale because of a rating change? Not sure I agree with that.
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Ross is a terrific school, but rejecting Yale because of a rating change? Not sure I agree with that.


(S)He said even happier - so probably already had his/her mind made up on Ross?
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Fair point, but surprised so many of you would go to Ross over Yale.
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I have had a multitude of reasoning to pick Ross over Yale, but I am probably not the best person to speak on this as I was dinged by Yale. However, given both the choices I’d definitely pick Ross. I can see how it comes off as sour grapes but I have some serious issues with Yale.

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Fair point, but surprised so many of you would go to Ross over Yale.


It’s actually not that surprising. First Yale has not had a good reputation as a business school until the last 5 years. To get to where they are today they basically only accepted students with high stats in order to inflate their ranking. This is also reflected in the reason why they didn’t make the top 10 this year. If you read the analysis by poets and quants it shows that they dropped out of the top 10 despite increasing their average gpa and average gmat and the reason was because they do not do as well as schools like Ross in recruiting and starting salary. The data seems to point toward Ross students being more attractive to recruiters and given that getting a job is the whole point of bschool I would take better recruiting stats over better gmat scores any day.


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Also forgot to mention that Ross has been very reliably ranked in the top 10-12 whereas Yale has not been reliable in their rank over the years.


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Also forgot to mention that Ross has been very reliably ranked in the top 10-12 whereas Yale has not been reliable in their rank over the years.


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I guess I would just default to an Ivy that is located near NYC (if I could only choose between those two). I cannot imagine going to Yale hurting one's career prospects. To each, their own!
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I guess I would just default to an Ivy that is located near NYC (if I could only choose between those two). I cannot imagine going to Yale hurting one's career prospects. To each, their own!


Defaulting to an ivy for grad school programs would be a mistake. The Ivy League reputation really only applies for undergraduate education. Yale’s bschool reputation is not on par with its much more respected undergraduate program.


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I guess I would just default to an Ivy that is located near NYC (if I could only choose between those two). I cannot imagine going to Yale hurting one's career prospects. To each, their own!


Defaulting to an ivy for grad school programs would be a mistake. The Ivy League reputation really only applies for undergraduate education. Yale’s bschool reputation is not on par with its much more respected undergraduate program.


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I agree with your statement except for maybe international students. The consulting firms and foreign banks will know the schools but non-profits and foreign corporations may not. During one of my visits to a Non-Ivy top 10 program, one of the international students said their parents and friends were confused why they went to this M7 and not Yale. The parents were unfamiliar with the undergrad school brand because it is not as widely known as Yale.

Personally, I've worked with great people from almost every top 12 school and I've worked with bad people from almost every top 12 school - with no real correlation between performance and bschool ranking. If you're a hard worker and have gone to a good school, I think you're fine... unless you want to go into PE or VC.

Last thing I will say, two of my closest mentors are Rossers (I believe that is the term) and can go toe to toe with anyone, any day.
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I guess I would just default to an Ivy that is located near NYC (if I could only choose between those two). I cannot imagine going to Yale hurting one's career prospects. To each, their own!


Defaulting to an ivy for grad school programs would be a mistake. The Ivy League reputation really only applies for undergraduate education. Yale’s bschool reputation is not on par with its much more respected undergraduate program.


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I agree with your statement except for maybe international students. The consulting firms and foreign banks will know the schools but non-profits and foreign corporations may not. During one of my visits to a Non-Ivy top 10 program, one of the international students said their parents and friends were confused why they went to this M7 and not Yale. The parents were unfamiliar with the undergrad school brand because it is not as widely known as Yale.

Personally, I've worked with great people from almost every top 12 school and I've worked with bad people from almost every top 12 school - with no real correlation between performance and bschool ranking. If you're a hard worker and have gone to a good school, I think you're fine... unless you want to go into PE or VC.

Last thing I will say, two of my closest mentors are Rossers (I believe that is the term) and can go toe to toe with anyone, any day.



I think there is some truth to this. My parents definitely know both Yale and UMich but consider Yale's prestige more because tons of Indian presidents are from there. But from a pure business school standpoint, I think school such as Tuck, Ross and Darden are widely known simply because how long they have been in the game. While ivys such as Cornell and Yale are prestigious from an undergrad and often law school standpoint, their business cred is not yet at the same level - rankings aside. One of the example is Stern - while almost always out of the top 10 in any of the rankings, but has always been a very strong program for business students.

My gripe with Yale is not whether it is an ivy league or not (though I could not disagree more with the ivy-status prestige - not many people know Dartmouth internationally, but Tuck garners incredible respect from the business circuit), but more to do with completely switching what the school stands for.
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[quote="Jazzy3113"]I guess I would just default to an Ivy that is located near NYC (if I could only choose between those two). I cannot imagine going to Yale hurting one's career prospects. To each, their own!


Defaulting to an ivy for grad school programs would be a mistake. The Ivy League reputation really only applies for undergraduate education. Yale’s bschool reputation is not on par with its much more respected undergraduate program.


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I agree with your statement except for maybe international students. The consulting firms and foreign banks will know the schools but non-profits and foreign corporations may not. During one of my visits to a Non-Ivy top 10 program, one of the international students said their parents and friends were confused why they went to this M7 and not Yale. The parents were unfamiliar with the undergrad school brand because it is not as widely known as Yale.

Personally, I've worked with great people from almost every top 12 school and I've worked with bad people from almost every top 12 school - with no real correlation between performance and bschool ranking. If you're a hard worker and have gone to a good school, I think you're fine... unless you want to go into PE or VC.

Last thing I will say, two of my closest mentors are Rossers (I believe that is the term) and can go toe to toe with anyone, any day.



I think there is some truth to this. My parents definitely know both Yale and UMich but consider Yale's prestige more because tons of Indian presidents are from there. But from a pure business school standpoint, I think school such as Tuck, Ross and Darden are widely known simply because how long they have been in the game. While ivys such as Cornell and Yale are prestigious from an undergrad and often law school standpoint, their business cred is not yet at the same level - rankings aside. One of the example is Stern - while almost always out of the top 10 in any of the rankings, but has always been a very strong program for business students.

My gripe with Yale is not whether it is an ivy league or not (though I could not disagree more with the ivy-status prestige - not many people know Dartmouth internationally, but Tuck garners incredible respect from the business circuit), but more to do with completely switching what the school stands for.[/quote]

Does it really matter whether or not your parents/friends know the name of the school though?

Maybe I could see the point if you’re targeting smaller employers and non-profits that aren’t experienced with hiring MBA’s but I would think that someone who is recruiting MBA students would know the reputations of the schools they are recruiting from regardless of whether they are international or US based companies.

Yes the general public probably recognizes the Yale name more but so what? Isn’t it more important that the recruiters recognize the prestige of your degree rather than the general public? And wouldn’t those people generally know which programs are considered “better” than others?


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That’s crazy. M7 :P


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