Alpha14
generis can u pls explain by taking an example the concept of what can "which" refer back after comma
The French Revolution of 1830, also known as the July Revolution or the Second French Revolution, saw the overthrow of King Charles X, the French Bourbon monarch, and his cousin Louis-Philippe's ascent, which would himself be deposed after 18 precarious years on the throne
Like in the above example how could i be sure that Which is referring to Ascent and not another thing ?
Hi
Alpha14 , in the above example you can be sure that
which refers to
ascent because
(1) the Modifier Touch Rule (modifiers must be next to the nouns they modify) is always the default (where you start) and
ascent precedes
which (
thinkvision did a good job of describing the rule in the post above)
(2)
which cannot jump back over a verb, and all of the other nouns before the verb
saw are people except for
overthrow (and
ascent).
--
Overthrow is silly as an antecedent. Below are the
possible candidates for
which. The nouns are NOT stricken through.
The candidates are:
overthrow of King Charles X,
the French Bourbon monarch and his cousin Louis-Philippe's ascent,
which--
which cannot refer to a person. A person takes
who. Eliminate all the human beings as possibilities.
--
which cannot logically refer to
overthrow. The overthrow would himself be deposed? No.
(3)
ascent is in the default position and is a thing.
which refers to
ascent (albeit illogically and nonsensically).
(4) the illogical
would himself be deposed that follows which = ascent is fatal.
Stop looking. You're done. The sentence is flawed.
• Longer analysisThe Modifier Touch Rule Following the Modifier Touch Rule is the default, so unless you see an exception to the rule, start by looking at the noun that comes right before
which.
The Touch Rule says that a noun modifier should be next to (should "touch") the noun it modifies.
Okay, well, in this case, we do two things.
1) We see whether we have the conditions to create an exception to the touch rule (we don't - see below) and
2) even if an exception to the touch rule were possible, we realize that all the antecedent nouns are human except for ascent and overthrow, but
which cannot logically refer to overthrow so there's no need to try to get around the rule.
We can conclude
(A) that
which refers to
ascent because
which never refers to people, and that
which would himself be deposed is absurd. An
ascent is not a
himself who can be deposed.
or
(B) that
which should be
who, but that word won't work because
Louis-Philippe's is an adjective that describes
ascent. Louis-Philippe, the person, is not present, so
who wouldn't work.
From #2, we infer that
which indeed refers to
ascent, and that an ascent is not a "himself" who will be deposed.
From that inference, we eliminate this answer and move on.
We found the antecedent of
which -- by following the touch rule and
-- by looking at other possible antecedents. Except for the words
ascent and
overthrow, every available noun is a person.
Use the default. Which refers to the noun right before it,
ascent. Conclusion?
Which refers to
ascent and the
ascent most certainly did not "himself" get deposed.
• One of the most common exceptions to the Modifier Touch RuleOne of the most common exceptions to the touch rule arises when a string of prepositional phrases come between the "main noun" and the modifier "which."
Let's return to #1. None of these sentences qualifies as an exception to the modifier touch rule, but many correct official answers violate the touch rule.
• when can intervening words come between a noun and the modifier which?Let's use a different sentence.
MGMAT uses this example:
The box of nails, which is nearly full, belongs to Jean. (6th edition, p 59)
Things to note--
Which is a nonessential modifier.
-- The most common exception to the touch rule derives from the fact that the modifiers referring to the same noun cannot both be placed right after the noun.
Essential modifiers "trump" nonessential modifiers.
The essential modifiers (the prepositional phrases) are placed right after the noun.
Because it is less important than the essential modifiers, the which-clause is placed after them.
Finally,
which is allowed to "reach back" over the prepositional phrases to get to its noun.
In the sentence in blue typeface, the noun "box" is modified by (1)
of nails and (2)
which is nearly full.
The modifiers can't both be placed right next to the noun.
--
Of nails is essential. (Which box? The box of nails.)
-- [
Which is nearly full] is not essential.
The essential modifier trumps the nonessential modifier; however,
which is allowed to reach back to its noun,
box.
Which thus reaches back to the
main or
head noun of the noun phrase.
This setup is probably the most common exception to the touch rule on the GMAT.
If essential modifiers follow a noun that also is modified by a which-clause, the which-clause will
not be adjacent to the main noun that it modifies, but that fact is okay.
• Bottom line: in this case, which still modifies the nearest preceding nounThe default rule holds:
which should modify the nearest possible logical noun.
In this sentence,
which is constrained by
(1) the touch rule (closest noun)
(2) logic (which refers to a thing and ascent is the only thing-like noun before which), and
(3) the absence of conditions for an exception to the touch rule.
which refers grammatically but illogically to
ascent.
• Exceptions to the modifier touch rule (not present here, but common)I discuss the
which-clause exception on SC Tips N Tricks.
Start with
this post, here, in which
dave13 asks about [comma + which].
In
this post, here I answer with analysis similar to that here, but in that post I include a couple of official examples.
(The whole SC Tips thread starts
HERE. It's a fantastic resource.)
Hope that helps. If not, ask about what is still confusing, tag me, and I will be happy to try to help.
*** Test yourself
In 1963 in The Progressive, James Baldwin published My Dungeon Shook — Letter to my Nephew on the One Hundredth Anniversary of the Emancipation, an essay of searing beauty about race and racism in America, which was subsequently re-published along with another essay in the non-fiction book The Fire Next Time.
What does which refer to?
Not America. America was not subsequently published.
In this case, which refers to essay because the noun essay is followed by essential prepositional phrases.