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The poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities report, it nevertheless presented a clear picture of a dangerous situation.

    A. The poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities report, it nevertheless presented

    B. As poorly designed as the report on nuclear power generation facilities was, it still presented

    C. Poorly designed, the nuclear power generation facilities in the report, yet presenting

    D. The report on nuclear power generation facilities, though poorly designed, yet it presented

    E. In the poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities report, it nevertheless presented


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IMo is B.
But in the answer it is not clear,what is poor designed the report or the power plant?
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The poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities report, it nevertheless presented a clear picture of a dangerous situation.

A. The poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities report, it nevertheless presented(awkward)

B. As poorly designed as the report on nuclear power generation facilities was, it presented( keep)

C. Poorly designed, the nuclear power generation facilities in the report, yet presenting( poorly designed modifies the nuclear power generation facilities,no verb)

D. The report on nuclear power generation facilities, though poorly designed, yet it presented(what does first phrase modifies)

E. In the poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities report, it nevertheless presented( awkward)

What is the intended meaning?
Is the meaning
There is a report on poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities and the report presents a clear picture of a dangerous situation.
Or
There is a poorly designed report on nuclear power generation facilities yet the report presents a clear picture of a dangerous situation.
Or
The report is as poorly designed as nuclear power generation facilities are,t he report presents a clear picture of a dangerous situation.

Only option worth consideration is B

Experts please throw some light on this question.

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The poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities report, it nevertheless presented a clear picture of a dangerous situation.

A. The poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities report, it nevertheless presented(awkward)

B. As poorly designed as the report on nuclear power generation facilities was, it still presented( keep)

C. Poorly designed, the nuclear power generation facilities in the report, yet presenting( poorly designed modifies the nuclear power generation facilities,no verb)

D. The report on nuclear power generation facilities, though poorly designed, yet it presented(what does first phrase modifies)

E. In the poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities report, it nevertheless presented( awkward)

What is the intended meaning?
Is the meaning
There is a report on poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities and the report presents a clear picture of a dangerous situation.
Or
There is a poorly designed report on nuclear power generation facilities yet the report presents a clear picture of a dangerous situation.
Or
The report is as poorly designed as nuclear power generation facilities are,t he report presents a clear picture of a dangerous situation.

Only option worth consideration is B

Experts please throw some light on this question.

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There is a misconception about Sentence Correction questions that is often repeated. That misconception is that the way to answer them is to determine the intended meaning of the sentence and then find the choice that best expresses that meaning. Sometimes is it said that this "intended meaning" is the meaning expressed by the original version of the sentence.

It is true that, in many Sentence Correction questions, all of the choices do seem to be meant to express the same meaning, and so finding the choice that most effectively expresses that meaning can work fairly well in some cases. However, it is also true that, in many Sentence Correction questions, the choices express a variety of meanings, some of them nonsensical.

The upshot here is that the way to locate the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question is not to look for a version that best expresses some "intended meaning." The way to find the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question is to find the one version that effectively and grammatically expresses a meaning that makes sense.

In the case of this question, as you have noticed, what meaning is meant to be expressed by some of the choices is unclear. Other choices seem meant to express a variety of meanings. Only one version effectively and grammatically expresses a meaning that makes sense.

In (A) and (E), the phrase "poorly designed" could be meant to modify either "nuclear power generation facilities" or "report." So, neither of those choices conveys a clear meaning. Also, in (E), the unclear meaning issue is further compounded by the fact that the pronoun "it" has no clear referent, and so, what "presented the picture" is not clear.

(D) is a complete mess. It seems to express that the report was poorly designed, but the sentence is so poorly constructed that it conveys no clear meaning.

(C) is not a complete sentence, but it does at least convey that the nuclear power generation facilities were poorly designed.

We are left with (B).

(B) is clearly about the report. The pronoun "it" clearly refers to "the report". The singular verb "was" can only work with "report" and not with "facilities."

The second clause in (B) effectively expresses the logical meaning that the report presented a clear picture of a dangerous situation.

So, we are left to discern the meaning of the first part of (B). Here's (B).

B. As poorly designed as the report on nuclear power generation facilities was, it still presented

The first part is not a comparison of the report with the facilities. The first part is a structure that conveys something similar to the following:

"Even though the report on nuclear power generation facilities was poorly designed"

We could shorten the version created via the use of (B) to the following to more clearly see how this structure functions.

As poorly designed as the report was, it still presented a clear picture.

So, the meaning expressed by the best version of the sentence is that, while the report on the facilities was poorly designed, it presented a clear picture.

Of course, had choice (B) been written using a simple dependent clause beginning with "while", close to 100 percent of people would have chosen it. So, like the correct answers to many sentence correction questions, choice (B) is written in a way meant to obscure that it is correct.
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daagh please comment on this. OA is really indigestible . Meaning and otherwise. GMATNinja sayantanc2k chetan2u
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If one can't take a question, then skip it and go to the next. Who is compelling whom in the forum?


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I just realized something and hence I would like to rephrase my comment.
Sir, may I know what made you comment this way? Is it the word "indigestible" ? If so then may I know what made you snap at me that way?

Indigestible meaning( Google) :

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1.
(of food) difficult or impossible to digest.
"haute cuisine was largely indigestible to the majority"
2.
too complex or awkward to read or understand easily.
"a turgid and indigestible book"

The second was my meaning and there is no other meaning to it unless someone wants to forge anew one. All I meant (explicitly) was that I m not able to understand this.

Now please tell me what facet or word of my comment made you say?
"If one can't accept... " This sounds too rude to me.

You seemed to be rude right now. But before I make my next comment / post the earlier one, I would like to clear out what you actually intended to say.
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My point is that one shouldn't waste time on abnormal things. Are there no other practice questions? I know you just meant to say unacceptable by calling it indigestible. But what is the point in breaking one head on it?

There is a saying that the prudence is to know to drop things that you should and carry things that you should and above all the wisdom to know the difference.

Our job in the forum is not tail-twisting. This is my personal opinion and even suggestion to you. Be happy
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This kind of questions comes on GMAT. Am I wrong this exam is about measuring our knowledge, or trying to drive us crazy?
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This kind of questions comes on GMAT. Am I wrong this exam is about measuring our knowledge, or trying to drive us crazy?

The above question may not be a perfect representation of the Sentence Correction questions that you will see on the GMAT.

All the same, it is a decent question, and you have to be clear about the following.

While knowledge of certain rules of grammar and effective expression can be useful when you are answering Sentence Correction questions, Sentence Correction questions are not meant to test knowledge. The questions are meant to test your skill in determining whether sentences are effective. So, you need to approach Sentence Correction questions appropriately, or yes, they will drive you crazy.
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OA is really indigestible

if you just say this ^^, then it make sense, but the problem is in the following comment.

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@daagh, please comment on this.

The original poster is perfect scorer (most importantly, MartyMurray is an expert in this forum). If you mention other experts (or any other moderator) just to rectify the experts' post in this way, it looks awkward (somewhat NOT respectful way).

But, I can ensure you that you can mention any expert or moderator (whoever you like most) as there is a option to mention anyone in the forum.
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The poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities report, it nevertheless presented a clear picture of a dangerous situation.

A. The poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities report, it nevertheless presented(awkward)

B. As poorly designed as the report on nuclear power generation facilities was, it presented( keep)

C. Poorly designed, the nuclear power generation facilities in the report, yet presenting( poorly designed modifies the nuclear power generation facilities,no verb)

D. The report on nuclear power generation facilities, though poorly designed, yet it presented(what does first phrase modifies)

E. In the poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities report, it nevertheless presented( awkward)


There is a misconception about Sentence Correction questions that is often repeated. That misconception is that the way to answer them is to determine the intended meaning of the sentence and then find the choice that best expresses that meaning. Sometimes is it said that this "intended meaning" is the meaning expressed by the original version of the sentence.

It is true that, in many Sentence Correction questions, all of the choices do seem to be meant to express the same meaning, and so finding the choice that most effectively expresses that meaning can work fairly well in some cases. However, it is also true that, in many Sentence Correction questions, the choices express a variety of meanings, some of them nonsensical.

The upshot here is that the way to locate the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question is not to look for a version that best expresses some "intended meaning." The way to find the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question is to find the one version that effectively and grammatically expresses a meaning that makes sense.

In the case of this question, as you have noticed, what meaning is meant to be expressed by some of the choices is unclear. Other choices seem meant to express a variety of meanings. Only one version effectively and grammatically expresses a meaning that makes sense.

In (A) and (E), the phrase "poorly designed" could be meant to modify either "nuclear power generation facilities" or "report." So, neither of those choices conveys a clear meaning. Also, in (E), the unclear meaning issue is further compounded by the fact that the pronoun "it" has no clear referent, and so, what "presented the picture" is not clear.

(D) is a complete mess. It seems to express that the report was poorly designed, but the sentence is so poorly constructed that it conveys no clear meaning.

(C) is not a complete sentence, but it does at least convey that the nuclear power generation facilities were poorly designed.

We are left with (B).

(B) is clearly about the report. The pronoun "it" clearly refers to "the report". The singular verb "was" can only work with "report" and not with "facilities."

The second clause in (B) effectively expresses the logical meaning that the report presented a clear picture of a dangerous situation.

So, we are left to discern the meaning of the first part of (B). Here's (B).

B. As poorly designed as the report on nuclear power generation facilities was, it presented

The first part is not a comparison of the report with the facilities. The first part is a structure that conveys something similar to the following:

"Even though the report on nuclear power generation facilities was poorly designed"

We could shorten the version created via the use of (B) to the following to more clearly see how this structure functions.

As poorly designed as the report was, it presented a clear picture.

So, the meaning expressed by the best version of the sentence is that, while the report on the facilities was poorly designed, it presented a clear picture.

Of course, had choice (B) been written using a simple dependent clause beginning with "while", close to 100 percent of people would have chosen it. So, like the correct answers to many sentence correction questions, choice (B) is written in a way meant to obscure that it is correct.


Hey my honorable expert MartyMurray,
Your explanation is very clear to me, but I have still a query on A and E. How do someone convinced that "poorly designed" modifies BOTH nuclear power generation facilities and report" as a non-native?
MartyMurray wrote:
The first part is not a comparison of the report with the facilities. The first part is a structure that conveys something similar to the following:
"Even though the report on nuclear power generation facilities was poorly designed"

The above quote helps me to understand the real scenario of this hard question. But, how do someone convinced that the choice B indicates "Even though...."
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AdityaHongunti wrote:
OA is really indigestible

if you just say this ^^, then it make sense, but the problem is in the following comment.

AdityaHongunti wrote:
@daagh, please comment on this.

The original poster is perfect scorer (most importantly, MartyMurray is an expert in this forum). If you mention other experts (or any other moderator) just to rectify the experts' post in this way, it looks awkward (somewhat NOT respectful way).

But, I can ensure you that you can mention any expert or moderator (whatever you like) as there is a option to mention anyone in the forum.
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Even experts sometimes (not always) can make at least some error . I'm not saying this is question is wrong/right. The reason I asked daagh is because his validation is convincing for me. I meant no disrespect. I don't understand how you read English . "Please comment on this" means please have a look at it and present your opinion.

Now in what part of the world does - "please comment on this" mean disrespect. I respect every poster. But even the greatest tutors at magoosh and Manhattan come up with some odd question which MAY not reflect a GMAT standard (again i mean no disrespect) . daagh's explanation are convincing for me so I asked him I meant no disrespect towards Marty. And if he were offended , he would have responded.

Again - " please comment on this " in no world means disrespect.

Also daagh explained his point and he wasn't rude and that is why I asked him first if he was being rude. But he wasn't.

In future if you have any suggestion regarding whomsoever's behaviour , try to message them personally, there is an option available to PM. Please do not try to misinterpret my comment AND also lead others to think I meant what YOU think.

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Hey my honorable expert MartyMurray,
Your explanation is very clear to me, but I have still a query on A and E. How do someone convinced that "poorly designed" modifies BOTH nuclear power generation facilities and report" as a non-native?

To address your question about (A) and (E), let's consider the phrase in question.

    the poorly designed nuclear power generation facilities report

In that phrase, "nuclear power generation facilities" is a modifier that modifies "report".

"poorly designed" is also a modifier.

The issue is that both nuclear power generation facilities and reports can be poorly designed.

So, it's not clear whether "poorly designed" in this sentence modifies "nuclear power generation facilities" or "nuclear power generation facilities report."

To see the issue more clearly, consider what would happen if the modifier were one that could only modify "report," one such as "well written."

    the well written nuclear power facilities report

Since we know that nuclear power facilities would not be well written, we can tell that "well written" in the above phrase must modify "report."

So, the reason that "poorly designed" in the original phrase could modify either "nuclear power generation facilities" or "nuclear power generation facilities report" is that there is no logic based clue that indicates that the modifier is meant to modify one or the other.


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The first part is not a comparison of the report with the facilities. The first part is a structure that conveys something similar to the following:
"Even though the report on nuclear power generation facilities was poorly designed"

The above quote helps me to understand the real scenario of this hard question. But, how do someone convinced that the choice B indicates "Even though...."
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I think your best move in this case is to familiarize yourself with this structure. Here are some more examples.

    As strong as Jim may be, I doubt he will be able to lift the car. (means that Jim may be rather strong, but I doubt he will be able to lift the car)

    As much as the team members wanted to attend the event, they knew that they wouldn't because their schedule was already full. (means that, while the team members had a strong desire to attend, they knew that they wouldn't)


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