The term “dude” can be said to anyone doesn’t have to be a guy as it’s said enough by both genders but now you would be making an assumption yourself. Again, I stand by my original statement: ppl here are smart enough to know the difference between an assumption and fact. Please take a chill pill and relax.

Well, I have been to some event hosted by Ad Coms(not Kellogg, but same tier school) and they said that they try to fill most of their international class in R1/R2 since R3 admits might not have enough runway to get a visa during normal(non-covid) times. I think the whole covid situation exonerates the difficulty of getting visas on time since most consulates/embassies are closed. There are some practical considerations that might make it difficult for international to get visas on time and ad coms have to take that into consideration these practical matters. Obviously, no ad coms is going to post on their web-site that "we are not taking international without at this time", but it is a game of poker here and it is not completely unreasonable to take these matters into consideration.

Look you said something that I know for a fact is wrong because I am a student here and I know first hand what is going on. If you are going to post your assumptions you should expect for people to respond to them. You can continue to believe what you like but I think it’s important for other people here to know that you are incorrect. I’m not sure what’s controversial about that, why that requires me to “chill out” or why you are so defensive?

You’re statement was incorrect. Simple as that.

No offense, you being a student there does not make you a total authority on these matters.. logical fallacy 101

At the end of the day, we all don’t know what’s going on in toto . Time will tell.

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The fact that you can seem to fathom why you need to chill out honestly shows me you have more growing up to do and you have this need to try to prove you're right without regard to context or perspective. Honestly, you don't sound like you go to NW right now because you should have been taught to look at the broader picture. I will say this again, I believe people at this school are smart enough to know this difference between assumption and fact. I'm sorry I don't believe lesser of the ppl applying here as you do.

This is a totally fair point and is why I have refrained from commenting on a lot of what has gone on in round 3 this year because there is a lot that I don’t know. I do however know for absolute fact that the adcom does not have any supposed ban on international students in round 3. That is why I commented because I know that it’s categorically false and I think that people reading these forums should not be misinformed.

fair point

As I’ve stated multiple times I really don’t care if you personally believe me or not. I do care if someone else reads statements here and gets incorrect information resulting in someone not applying when they otherwise would have. Never have I said anything to imply that people posting here are “lesser”. In fact you can feel free to read through my gmatclub record if you’d like and you’ll find I’ve actually dedicated quite a bit of time in helping several applicants directly via this forum including taking phone calls, mock interviews, reading essays etc. I have no need for your approval.

Good luck in your applications.

The term “dude” can be said to anyone doesn’t have to be a guy but now you would be making an assumption yourself. Again, I stand by my original statement: ppl here are smart enough to know the difference between an assumption and fact. Please take a chill pill and relax.[/quote]

Look you said something that I know for a fact is wrong because I am a student here and I know first hand what is going on. If you are going to post your assumptions you should expect for people to respond to them. You can continue to believe what you like but I think it’s important for other people here to know that you are incorrect. I’m not sure what’s controversial about that, why that requires me to “chill out” or why you are so defensive?

You’re statement was incorrect. Simple as that.[/quote]

The fact that you can seem to fathom why you need to chill out honestly shows me you have more growing up to do and you have this need to try to prove you're right without regard to context or perspective. Honestly, you don't sound like you go to NW right now because you should have been taught to look at the broader picture. I will say this again, I believe people at this school are smart enough to know this difference between assumption and fact. I'm sorry I don't believe lesser of the ppl applying here as you do.[/quote]

As I’ve stated multiple times I really don’t care if you personally believe me or not. I do care if someone else reads statements here and gets incorrect information resulting in someone not applying when they otherwise would have. Never have I said anything to imply that people posting here are “lesser”. In fact you can feel free to read through my gmatclub record if you’d like and you’ll find I’ve actually dedicated quite a bit of time in helping several applicants directly via this forum including taking phone calls, mock interviews, reading essays etc. I have no need for your approval.

Good luck in your applications.[/quote]

It’s great you helped others. However, noble intentions do not really change the fact that you accused me of spreading false info when that was never my intention rather it was logical reasoning of a previous comment made by an int'l student based on the information currently available at the time. I’d like to think people can discuss things freely on this board but when a discussion becomes an accusation of misinformation I take that seriously especially when accused of it. It’s fine you have no need of my approval because I share the sentiment with regards to yours. However, your assumption that my statement would preclude an individual from
applying to NW because he/she lacked the logical reasoning to distinguish assumptions from facts. It’s that assumption I disagree with given the ppl applying to NW as that assumption doesn’t prevent potential or current applicants from thinking rationally as it’s that kind of thinking that brought them to NW in the first place. Also, there’s the option of someone contacting the Adcom for confirmation if there are any reservations in the about the current application process as it’s rational for people to be skeptical of the information coming from an individual on an internet board, regardless of his/her post history. If you scroll through past messages in this very forum you can see examples of ppl doing so. Lastly, how you deliver a message is just as important as the information contained in that message - you’ll learn that in time. Good luck to you as well with your applications.

Look you said something that I know for a fact is wrong because I am a student here and I know first hand what is going on. If you are going to post your assumptions you should expect for people to respond to them. You can continue to believe what you like but I think it’s important for other people here to know that you are incorrect. I’m not sure what’s controversial about that, why that requires me to “chill out” or why you are so defensive?

You’re statement was incorrect. Simple as that.[/quote]

The fact that you can seem to fathom why you need to chill out honestly shows me you have more growing up to do and you have this need to try to prove you're right without regard to context or perspective. Honestly, you don't sound like you go to NW right now because you should have been taught to look at the broader picture. I will say this again, I believe people at this school are smart enough to know this difference between assumption and fact. I'm sorry I don't believe lesser of the ppl applying here as you do.[/quote]

As I’ve stated multiple times I really don’t care if you personally believe me or not. I do care if someone else reads statements here and gets incorrect information resulting in someone not applying when they otherwise would have. Never have I said anything to imply that people posting here are “lesser”. In fact you can feel free to read through my gmatclub record if you’d like and you’ll find I’ve actually dedicated quite a bit of time in helping several applicants directly via this forum including taking phone calls, mock interviews, reading essays etc. I have no need for your approval.

Good luck in your applications.[/quote]

It great you helped others. However, noble intentions do not really change the fact that you accused me of spreading false info when that was never my intention rather it was logical reasoning of a previous comment made by an int'l student based on the information currently available at the time. I’d like to think people can discuss things freely on this board but when a discussion becomes an accusation of misinformation I take that seriously especially when accused of it. It’s fine you have no need of my approval because I share the sentiment with regards to yours. However, your assumption that my statement would preclude an individual from
applying to NW because he/she lacked the logical reasoning to distinguish assumptions from facts. It’s that assumption I disagree with given the ppl applying to NW as that assumption doesn’t prevent potential or current applicants from thinking rationally as it’s that kind of thinking that brought them to NW in the first place. Also, there’s the option of someone contacting the Adcom for confirmation if there are any reservations in the about the current application process as it’s rational for people to be skeptical of the information coming from an individual on an internet board, regardless of his/her post history. If you scroll through past messages in this very forum you can see examples of ppl doing so. Lastly, how you deliver a message is just as important as the information contained in that message - you’ll learn that in time. Good luck to you as well with your applications.[/quote]



Thank you guys for your contributions. I’d suggest moving this particular thread between you two offline.

just completely non transparent with how they are handling incoming classes as others are unifying their deciison deadlines, rolling x y z, how people are being taken off waitlist (ie best candidate vs from previous round), how round rolling applicants would be considered, how many seats left in the class, test waivers out of the blue (people had to study with a job, x years studying, x years valid, if i submit my gmat score anyways, how is it factored)?

What a bizarre and needlessly thorough application too from what I've read. I will stand with I'm happy I didn't apply.

There' just zero transparency from their end.

I'm not sure how experienced you are with the application process, but from my personal experience, no school actively communicates a lot of the things that you have mentioned, especially things such as 'how many seats left in the class', 'how people are being taken off the waitlist' - no school ever clearly states that. I'm sorry, but this seems to be a ridiculous level of expectation.

As far as handling incoming classes goes, I know Kellogg admits who've been receiving communication on an 'as and when' basis. Again, the level of uncertainty is high, and schools are also building a plane as they fly it. Not to mention, this information in particular doesn't directly impact anyone who's yet to receive an admit.

If you find the application bizarre and needlessly thorough, you are more than welcome to not apply. Everyone went through the same application process, and like I've said before, people who are applying in extended rounds should know what they are getting into.



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Have you ever applied for a job?

theoryguy and FuturePM91, let's end the argument. theoryguy was issued a warning, so we can all move on without further issue.
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As someone who applied and got rejected at Kellogg TWICE, I try to be unbiased.
BUT calm down people. Speculating on what Kellogg adcoms are thinking can be fun and interesting during these anxeity inducing times, but being disrepectful to people, especially ones who have spent years on the forum helping people with ZERO incentive is not.

theoryguy - No woman will appreciate being called a "dude" regardless of how gender-fluid you think the term is. Also, no human would be flattered being asked to "take a chill pill" - are we back to the 90s?
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If you are going to post something, expect others may read it and some may even think about it and some may reply and yet some may question you. Looks like you vented/theorized and got called out (in a nice way). Are you really going to hang on to that bit if false info defending because you need to be always right or can’t fathom to be corrected while knowing it is incorrect?

The mature thing is to move on. You can’t compete with someone who has their boots on the ground. You should definitely question and challenge but that’s not the right call here. Current students will always have a more accurate picture than us outsiders. No matter how much you know, just does not compare. I have learned it long ago.

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Look you said something that I know for a fact is wrong because I am a student here and I know first hand what is going on. If you are going to post your assumptions you should expect for people to respond to them. You can continue to believe what you like but I think it’s important for other people here to know that you are incorrect. I’m not sure what’s controversial about that, why that requires me to “chill out” or why you are so defensive?

You’re statement was incorrect. Simple as that.[/quote]

The fact that you can seem to fathom why you need to chill out honestly shows me you have more growing up to do and you have this need to try to prove you're right without regard to context or perspective. Honestly, you don't sound like you go to NW right now because you should have been taught to look at the broader picture. I will say this again, I believe people at this school are smart enough to know this difference between assumption and fact. I'm sorry I don't believe lesser of the ppl applying here as you do.[/quote]

As I’ve stated multiple times I really don’t care if you personally believe me or not. I do care if someone else reads statements here and gets incorrect information resulting in someone not applying when they otherwise would have. Never have I said anything to imply that people posting here are “lesser”. In fact you can feel free to read through my gmatclub record if you’d like and you’ll find I’ve actually dedicated quite a bit of time in helping several applicants directly via this forum including taking phone calls, mock interviews, reading essays etc. I have no need for your approval.

Good luck in your applications.[/quote]

It’s great you helped others. However, noble intentions do not really change the fact that you accused me of spreading false info when that was never my intention rather it was logical reasoning of a previous comment made by an int'l student based on the information currently available at the time. I’d like to think people can discuss things freely on this board but when a discussion becomes an accusation of misinformation I take that seriously especially when accused of it. It’s fine you have no need of my approval because I share the sentiment with regards to yours. However, your assumption that my statement would preclude an individual from
applying to NW because he/she lacked the logical reasoning to distinguish assumptions from facts. It’s that assumption I disagree with given the ppl applying to NW as that assumption doesn’t prevent potential or current applicants from thinking rationally as it’s that kind of thinking that brought them to NW in the first place. Also, there’s the option of someone contacting the Adcom for confirmation if there are any reservations in the about the current application process as it’s rational for people to be skeptical of the information coming from an individual on an internet board, regardless of his/her post history. If you scroll through past messages in this very forum you can see examples of ppl doing so. Lastly, how you deliver a message is just as important as the information contained in that message - you’ll learn that in time. Good luck to you as well with your applications.[/quote]


yes, there will be people who might think that the info (whether it might be an assumption/opinion) available here is construed as true. and they may lose out by not applying to a great school.
I believe its not reasonable to post opinions/assumptions about the adcoms until its verified from the source.
coz there are lot of aspirants looking at these forums, what's going on..
few doesn't contact the adcoms, and rely on the forums, it happens.

ur intent may not be to misguide, but it happens. so its fair to post sensibly.

I have been a silent viewer on this thread for some time. Considering the uncertainty everyone is facing and how critical everyone is being about adcom, I thought I should write my experience:

1) I applied in the 2nd week of May.
2) I have not submitted my video essay and I have neither received an interview invite or a waiver.
3) Within 2 weeks of submitting my application it was reviewed by adcom. It was reviewed just before the deposit due date of Round 3 hit.

In conclusion I can say that:
1) Adcom is currently reviewing applications (or maybe always does) before the interview and even before the video essay.
2) For the rolling admissions round they might have been waiting for the deposit due date to hit so now they know exactly how many seats they need to fill.
3) They are working super hard because my application was reviewed in the wee hours

I don't think everyone is going to get an interview. If I get one I will write about it so everyone can calculate their own timeline and continue hoping because fear is a disease; hope is its only cure.

How did you know that it has been reviewed

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