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In option D: "The tracks that dinosaurs left show that they walked with their feet directly under their bodies, as do mammals & birds". I am not able to get how to complete the second part of the sentence.

Like if the option was "The tracks that dinosaurs left show that they walked with their feet directly under their bodies, as mammals & birds do". Then it would be clear that "The tracks that dinosaurs left show that they walked with their feet directly under their bodies, as mammals & birds do walk with their feet directly under their bodies.".

But in option D I am not able to complete the sentence. Secondly what difference does it make when "do" is used before versus after?

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Sorry for the slow response, Himanshu! We might be too late to help you, but it's an interesting question, so hopefully this will help somebody else.

Having the "do" come first is fairly common in English. For example:

    "Tim likes to eat pizza, as do his friends."

If you try to simply "plug in" the verb, the result does sound a bit funky: "Tim likes to eat pizza, as like to eat pizza his friends." But if we reorder it, the result is perfectly logical: "Tim likes to eat pizza, (just) as his friends like to eat pizza."

You've probably noticed that the GMAT is pretty lenient with certain "inverted" word orders. And sadly, there are no black-and-white rules for this sort of thing, so your best bet is to be conservative and look for other decision points.

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Secondly what difference does it make when "do" is used before versus after?
Again, there aren't any strict rules, and changes in the placement of the word "do" don't result in reliably predictable meaning differences. Honestly, it's not worth thinking about, at least not in the context of the GMAT.

Bottom line: if you have an otherwise okay answer choice with an inverted word order that seems like it might be logical (even if it sounds a bit funny), keep it, and look for other decision points.

I hope that helps!
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Hey Kshitijp04,

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(D) The tracks that dinosaurs left show that they walked with their feet directly under their bodies, as do mammals and birds, not extended out to the side in the manner of modern reptiles.

Why isn't the 'they' ambiguous here? Can it not refer to both, the tracks or the dinosaurs? Which additional condition should prevail for us to eliminate an option because of an ambiguous pronoun?

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In Option D - that dinosaurs left - this is a relative clause which we eliminate while analysing sentence, so the sentence will look like
The tracks that dinosaurs left show that they walked with their feet directly under their bodies, as do

Implying that tracks show that tracks walked?

Another way to look at this can be they can refer to either tracks or dinosaurs. The subject of option D is tracks and hence it is referring to tracks


Here is a video I published recently: The Underlying Principle of Pronoun Usage - The Ultimate Test of Ambiguity

In this video, I discuss the most fundamental Rule of Pronoun Usage, a rule that reconciles all the conflicting examples of pronouns in Official GMAT Questions. And, as an example, I've discussed this question on "Dinosaur Tracks" to demonstrate the FRAMEWORK you can apply to easily tackle every potential case of pronoun ambiguity, whether it is in an easy or hard question.

In this video, I cover:
  1. The Underlying Principle of Pronoun Usage, and
  2. A Framework for Identifying Ambiguous Pronouns.


I invite you to watch this video, especially if you find it difficult to decide whether a pronoun has been used ambiguously. Also, I've included a small practice exercise to help cement the Rule and the Framework.

I hope this helps.

Happy Learning!

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(A) Dinosaur tracks show them walking with their feet directly under their bodies, like mammals and birds, not extended out to the side in the manner of modern reptiles.
The first thing I notice is "them," which has to refer to a plural noun, but there's no plural noun that works here. "Tracks?" Nope. The dinosaur tracks don't show "tracks" walking. A pronoun can be ambiguous, but it cannot be incoherent. So (A) is out.

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(B) Dinosaur tracks show that they walked with their feet directly under their bodies, as do mammals and birds, not extended out to the side in the manner of modern reptiles.
Same problem as (A), but with "they" instead of "them."

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(C) Dinosaurs left tracks that showed them walking with their feet directly under their bodies, like mammals and birds, not extended out to the side in the manner of modern reptiles.
This one fixes the pronoun issue - "them" can refer to "dinosaurs," but now we've got a meaning problem. This version makes it sound as though the tracks literally showed dinosaurs walking, the way, say, a video might show a toddler walking. That would be neat, but it's not terribly logical. The tracks give us information that allows us to see that the dinosaurs walked a certain way. But we don't get to see the walking itself.

There's also a problem with the usage of "like" here. Remember, "like" has to compare nouns. What nouns are compared? "Mammals and birds" to "their bodies?" That doesn't make sense. It seems far more logical to compare actions: how dinosaurs walked to how mammals and birds do. When comparing actions, we'd want to use "as," so that's another strike against (C).

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(D) The tracks that dinosaurs left show that they walked with their feet directly under their bodies, as do mammals and birds, not extended out to the side in the manner of modern reptiles.
This looks okay. We have the plural "dinosaurs" for "they" to refer to. "As" properly compares actions. No other issues are jumping out, let's hang on to this one.

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(E) In the tracks they left, dinosaurs are shown walking with their feet under their bodies, like mammals and birds, not extended out to the side in the manner of modern reptiles.
Again, it seems as though the tracks are literally displaying dinosaurs walking. Worse, the dinosaurs appear to be walking now. And then we've also got "like" illogically comparing "mammals and birds" to their bodies," as opposed to (D), which uses "as" to compare actions.

So (D) it is.



Pls help me with a small doubt- in option D- even 'tracks' is plural- so can it be possible that the 'they' pronouns in the sentence refer to tracks and not to 'dinosaurs'? Pls let me know. I thought D is wrong since both tracks and dinosaurs is plural.
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Pls help me with a small doubt- in option D- even 'tracks' is plural- so can it be possible that the 'they' pronouns in the sentence refer to tracks and not to 'dinosaurs'? Pls let me know. I thought D is wrong since both tracks and dinosaurs is plural.
Pronoun ambiguity isn't an absolute rule on the GMAT, and we've seen plenty of OAs that have multiple referents for the same pronoun. As long as you can reasonably infer what the pronoun refers to, you'll probably have to look for other decision points. In this particular case, it's pretty clear that the dinosaurs themselves did the walking, not their tracks.

For more on that, check out this video or this (vaguely newer) one.
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(E) In the tracks they left, dinosaurs are shown walking with their feet under their bodies, like mammals and birds, not extended out to the side in the manner of modern reptiles.
Again, it seems as though the tracks are literally displaying dinosaurs walking. Worse, the dinosaurs appear to be walking now. And then we've also got "like" illogically comparing "mammals and birds" to their bodies," as opposed to (D), which uses "as" to compare actions.

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Thanks for the nice explanation. I've a little different query to you. How do the reader convinced that there is no dinosaurs in this planet? Is it mandatory to know everything that is happening in the real world to answer an SC?
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Dinosaur tracks show them walking with their feet directly under their bodies, like mammals and birds, not extended out to the side in the manner of modern reptiles.

(A) Dinosaur tracks show them walking with their feet directly under their bodies, like

(B) Dinosaur tracks show that they walked with their feet directly under their bodies, as do

(C) Dinosaurs left tracks that showed them walking with their feet directly under their bodies, like

(D) The tracks that dinosaurs left show that they walked with their feet directly under their bodies, as do

(E) In the tracks they left, dinosaurs are shown walking with their feet under their bodies, like

Hello experts,
Can I say the core in choice C is just as bellow as the ''that showed.....modern reptiles'' is a modifier part as the modifier modifies ''tracks''?
The core of the sentence in choice C:
Dinosaurs left tracks.
Am I right?
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