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Hello Everyone!

Let's tackle this question, one issue at a time, and narrow it down to the correct choice! To start, here is the original question with any major differences between the options highlighted in orange:

Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

(A) requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
(B) requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
(C) that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
(D) to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
(E) to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

After a quick glance over the options, there are a couple places we can focus on:

1. requiring / require (Idioms)
2. protect / is protecting / are protecting (Subject-Verb Agreement)


Let's start off with #2 on our list: subject-verb agreement. No matter which way we go with this, it will eliminate at least 2 options rather quickly. The first thing we need to do is figure out what the subject is:

Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

Now that we know the verb needs to work with the singular subject "compliance," we can rule out any options that don't agree:

(A) requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
(B) requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
(C) that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
(D) to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
(E) to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

We can eliminate options A, C, & D because their verbs are plural, and they don't agree with their singular subject! See - how easy was that?

Now let's go back to #1 on our list: to require / requiring. This is an issue of idioms! By using the wrong idiom here, it actually changes the overall meaning:

(B) requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

This is CORRECT! It's idiomatically correct to say that "laws requiring X" here. It's clear that the law currently requires these changes to be made already. It also uses proper subject-verb agreement (compliance / is protecting).

(E) to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

This is INCORRECT because the phrase "laws to require X" isn't idiomatically correct in English. It also changes the meaning somewhat - the law that exists today will require people to use turtle-excluder devices in the future? That doesn't really make sense with how laws work. Laws require actions to be taken immediately - not in the future.


There you have it - option B is the correct choice! If we focus on the major differences between the options, we can eliminate the wrong options quickly to get to the right one!


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I am not convinced why option E is wrong?

I request for detailed explanation
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Dear Team,
I am not convinced why option E is wrong?

I request for detailed explanation
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Several deatiled expanations are given on previous THREE pages of discussion.

Hope it helps.

Dear Bunuel

Thanks for revert. I have gone through all previous explanation. It is mentioned that "laws to require" is unidiomatic. This doesn't convince me. I request if you can share detailed explanation on the same.

Thanks in advance.
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priyanshu14 wrote:
Dear Team,
I am not convinced why option E is wrong?

I request for detailed explanation
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Several deatiled expanations are given on previous THREE pages of discussion.

Hope it helps.

Dear Bunuel

Thanks for revert. I have gone through all previous explanation. It is mentioned that "laws to require" is unidiomatic. This doesn't convince me. I request if you can share detailed explanation on the same.

Thanks in advance.

priyanshu14 , a number of other decision points exist.

You are focused on "laws to require," though.
Why are you not convinced?
Explain your reasoning, please?
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Argue your case. :) HERE.

"Laws to require" cannot be used in this context.
We cannot talk about the content of the already-passed law with the words "to require."
We can talk about
-- a law that requires
-- a law requiring

We can say that the purpose of a law is to require something.
But the content of an extant law cannot be described with "to require."
-- Doing so makes it sound as though the content is not yet in force.

Last week shrimpers were talking about laws with which they complied.
Those laws are laws THAT require X, Y, and Z.
They are laws requiring X, Y, and Z.

The content of the law requires something right now.
The content of the law does not "to require" something.
The law's content THAT requires something...
Reduce the relative clause: The law's content requiring something...

A law TO require something has not yet been passed.

If we want laws TO require A, B, and C, then we must write them.
• We should pass a law to require people who have their finger on a nuclear trigger to undergo routine psychiatric checkups.
• I hope that the legislature enacts a law to require skiers to wear avalanche signals.
• The wingnuts wanted to pass a law to require that schoolchildren be prevented from reading The Scarlet Letter.

The shrimpers did not comply a week ago with laws TO require XYZ. :)
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(Note that protect is not being used as a command
subjunctive in A. “be” is used as the command subjunctive).


Hi Souvik,

Can you please help me as to why the option A is not referring to as the subjunctive mood?
The words "require + that" are valid acceptances for the subjunctive, isnt it?

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shahjenil93 Souvik didn't say that command subjunctive wasn't being used, but rather that "be" was the verb used to form the command subjunctive. Answer choice A says "REQUIRE THAT devices BE on nets."

In any case, we need PROTECT as the verb for COMPLIANCE, so anything else we do with PROTECT will render the whole thing a non-sentence.

Also, it's worth noting that if we do use the command subjunctive, we can't demand anything of the nets or the devices themselves. We can demand that devices be included, or that some kind of net be used, but we can't require the devices to be on the nets or require the nets to protect turtles, since the devices and nets aren't people that can follow our commands.
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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.


(A) requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect - SV error of Compliance with protect, modifier error because of requiring that

(B) requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting - no error and correct use of modifier

(C) that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect - Sv error of compliance with protect

(D) to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting - to is used wrong here because we dont need intention to require turtle excluder devices. SV error of compliance with verb error

(E) to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting - To is used wrong here because we dont need intention
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Require is a subjunctive verb, why are we not using the subjunctive rules here?
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Which option did you choose Kanika?
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Why "compliance" is being the subject in this rather "turtle-excluder"?
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Why "compliance" is being the subject in this rather "turtle-excluder"?
Hi lakshya14,

Let's take a look at that phrase:
1. their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices

Turtle-excluder just defines devices. That is, it tells us what kind of devices we're talking about.

2. their compliance with laws requiring some devices
is like
3. their compliance with laws requiring something

Requiring turtle-excluder devices just defines laws.

3. their compliance with laws requiring something
is like
4. their compliance with some laws

The shrimpers are not saying that some laws protect sea turtles. They're saying their adherence to those laws is what is protecting sea turtles.
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SUBJECT AND VERB AGREEMENT , MODIFIERS


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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.


(A) requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect

Subject is "compliance with laws" ,so here is subject verb agreement with "protect" at the end..It should have been protects

(B) requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

clears the subject verb agreement

(C) that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect

Similar problem explained in A

(D) to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting

1. To is not required
2. S-V agreement error "compliance with law.....are"

(E) to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

1. To is not required
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