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Wow - that's a pretty amazing improvement!
I have only counted about 3-4 debriefs with 300+ point improvement. Kudos for the debrief and sharing. Would you like to participate in a video debrief?
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Wow - that's a pretty amazing improvement!
I have only counted about 3-4 debriefs with 300+ point improvement. Kudos for the debrief and sharing. Would you like to participate in a video debrief?

Yes, I would love to bb ! :-D

I will do the needful.

Also, would like to thank you and Bunuel for all the help and guidance. The best debrief series has been one of my biggest motivators and I had hoped to feature there since the very first day. Glad you liked my debrief :-D
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Hi vedantkabra, congratulations!

I'm come from a 380 on my first CAT, so I hope to somehow mimic your success story!
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Wow - that's a pretty amazing improvement!
I have only counted about 3-4 debriefs with 300+ point improvement. Kudos for the debrief and sharing. Would you like to participate in a video debrief?

Yes, I would love to bb ! :-D

I will do the needful.

Also, would like to thank you and Bunuel for all the help and guidance. The best debrief series has been one of my biggest motivators and I had hoped to feature there since the very first day. Glad you liked my debrief :-D



Dude this is an awesome post. Wish you all the best for ISB :)
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Hi vedantkabra, congratulations!

I'm come from a 380 on my first CAT, so I hope to somehow mimic your success story!

Given that you've started with a 380, I think 720 isn't all hat difficult 8-) Good luck and let me know if I can help? :)
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warriorguy Thank you, glad you liked it! :)

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first of all a big congratulations to you for your score and I'm sure you're definitely achieve 770 (your dream score).

I can very much relate to your debrief. i gave my first CAT in Feb 2016 with 470. But i was not regular with my studies. Though i had done my course in may-jun 2016, i am still in the 550-580 range. and i very much think my scores have plateau-ed. I genuinely want to score 750.

i am feeling helpless and hopeless and Don't know what to do and how to do it. My bigggest weaknesses are-

1) speed- i am very slow when i attempt the CAT. In quant i have to guess 8-9 questions in the last 2 minutes
2) accuracy-i make lot of silly errors in quant/verbal
3) scared of verbal section per se

I wan to know how did you go about increasing your speed and accuracy.

Any useful insight will be very helpful for me. Reading your debrief has motivated me to work even more harder to achieve my score

thank you"

Hey buddy. Couple of things :

When you believe your scores have plateaued, you're really wrong. I said to myself I cannot do better than a 640 (honestly). I told my counsellor that the 640 was my best but truth be told I was only giving up. I truly think GMAT takers can 'peak' only at 800, nothing less than that.

Now, the most important things wrt prep.
1. Practise. When I took my first CAT, I missed 5 odd questions (or some such). I had no speed, little accuracy. The hard truth here is that I needed to practise a lot to have 3 mins to spare in the end on my Q section and score a 49 (which by no means is a great score, but by all means good for someone who scored 44 on their first attempt.) My preparation this time around was all about reviewing everything from A-Z. I had mastered every possible concept (On my MGMAT CATs, each question I answered incorrectly was because of silly errors and i assume it's because of the same reason i didnt score a 51). One mistake i did before my first attempt was that I disregarded 'silly' errors. No miracles will happen on the test day if you dont get your basics right during the practise phase. (Learnt it the hard way). Some say practise only official questions but for someone like me : I know that the key to a brilliant score is practising everything one can lay their hands on. (The upside? Practising extra will not kill you :P)
2. Verbal : Go through Aristotle, MGMAT Guides, Powerscore CR Bible first. These are all important. Once you go through them, you'll realise how thin the line between the 700 level question's incorrect and correct answer choices is (and that is really important). If your basics are weak, give it a month's time - master everything from here, there, everywhere. And then - start practising. There is no dearth of material on GMATClub, you'll find it all (Or you can ask me). Keep a target of solving north of 100 SCs, 100 CRs and 10-12 RCs a day. It'll get you into the groove, and you'll be able to decode everything that comes your way.

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Do not take too much of stress + tension. GMAT is a mind game. It gives you no immediate rewards; the reward comes only after the test is done and that depends on your prep + how you are right before the test. Put a little pressure on yourself, have a realistic target but dont over-burden yourself. You'll start getting things wrong on the trot and that is more detrimental to one's preparation than anything else.


Good luck and feel free to reach out! :D
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Hey Vedantkabra,

Congratulations on reaching the 700 mark!! Your debrief has been inspirational!! I am trying to reach the same heights as you!

Just a specific question, you said you practiced 1000 SC questions? In my case, I believe SC is the only thing holding me back now from the 680-700 range score. I have been working slowly on the OG2016 Verbal section as well as Verbal Review 2016 SC questions.

What other resources did you use for SC questions? For other resources, how did you find the SC questions compared to the official questions/real test? Some SC question bank recommendations would be great!

Congratulations again! You deserve this. Good luck on your applications now!

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Hi Kurai
Thank you for your kind words.

I don't know the source of the questions I practised but I have seen quite a lot of them on manhattan forums and Veritas forums. Also, a couple of them are from GMATPrep too. It's a collection that has featured in Jamboree's books (Jamboree is a test prep centre in India). So I think it's verified and very close to actual questions. More importantly, it was awesome practise and great fun too. Some were absolute bouncers, had to learn a few new concepts so I think if SC is what's keeping you from breaking the 700 barrier, this is the doc that you really need. Also, I truly think before you proceed with any other source, do the OG thoroughly, review every question you solve etc. That was, you'll be halfway there.

As for the other sources : I really can't recount every source because of the sheer enormity of the material I had accumulated (Not boasting, it's what GMATClub does! :P) I think by the time I was done, I solved the 1000 SCs, 300 OG Questions and another 400 (approx) Misc source questions for SC (and CR).

I cannot stress enough on the importance of reviewing your mistakes, making an error log and keeping it throughout. It's what I revised from on the eve of my exam too.

Feel free to reach out if you need any help! :D
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Thank you for reaching out. Responding to a couple of PMs.

If 1 hour a day over 2 months can help you get the magic number :
In my honest opinion, your prep time depends on your aptitude + skills and what plan suits you best. I take some time to grasp a concept and need to practise relentlessly (and after that I truly master a topic). So if you think you can manage to hit bulls eye within 2 months with 60 hours of prep : Go ahead and do the needful. (I have read artciles on how 180 hours of prep will help you - They're lies. Do what suits you best. My approach may not help you as much as your own approach will!!!)

IMHO (2) : You should be consistent with Q and V practise and do the same DAILY. Perhaps an hour of Q and an hour of Verbal would be great. But this strategy (1+1 will help you only at a higher level of prep when all your concepts are clear. However, if you feel you're an absolute genius who can grasp concepts at the click of a finger, I dont see how the 1+1 strategy from the very onset will be detrimental - For reference, read this interview of Thrishnaa who thrased the GMAT with a 770. https://www.mbacrystalball.com/blog/2013 ... score-770/)

Also, a couple of people have requested my docs : I wanted to share them with the entire community and had uploaded the docs but sadly i have been told they're under copyright and I shouldn't be sharing the docs. However, take 2 hours and browse through the Quant and Verbal sections. You'll find all the material (and perhaps more). :)
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Hi Club.

Responding to a PM :

I got a 510, and I want to go to Great Lakes and need a 650. What to do? : 510 is a great score to start with. And you need to believe that yourself. If only 10% of the test takers score 700+, it's okay to not be able to touch that mark on your first attempt. Believe that your score does not reflect your abilities but your level of preparation and while the decision of the Adcom isnt in your hands the ability to score 650 is. You're not as helpless as you felt after the score flashed on your screen and I can bet my life on that. :)

Week 1 : Review Math + Verbal basics (A-Z. OG, Aristotle, MGMAT etc.) (This means review and start practise)
Week 2 : Keep practising, and review problem areas and doubts.
Week 3 : If some area is bothering you exceptionally - go over it again but clear that doubt.
Week 4 : After a one day gap of 10 hours of study/day in the last 3 weeks (You'd need this much i presume) you'll want to take a break. If you actually finish all that you were meant to you will not feel guilty and will not worry during the break. Take this as the measure of your prep.
Right after - take MGMAT CAts. All of them. One mock/day and right after the mock - review everything.

You can either win your seat at great lakes or lose it to your remorse, self pity and helplessness.

How do i go about CR?
: you start (and excel) at preparing for CR - you'll eventually notice how everything boils down to your logic. For eg.
Steam : The bank had two doors. Which statement explains why? (Keats minor edit here)
Ans Choices : There are too many robberies happening so to ensure security I It's cold there, so to ensure cold wind doesn't enter.
These are the closest answer choices for the question, and you'll be a little perplexed when you see it but once you start doing a good number of CRs per day (100 worked for me), you reach a level of prep where all these questions feel 'routine' and the logic and answer comes naturally to you. (Ans is B).

Vedant
More importantly : understand each question type thoroughly. This'll help you the most. Read questions very carefully. Some times, one word in a stem makes it very different from the illusion it casts. sometimes, the question asks you to 'least' weaken the stem - so you need to watch out for these and do the needful. (You'll be tempted to assume weaken the least means strength/kind of strengthen but NO weaken the least means WEAKENS ThE LEAST only and the answer choice may perhaps not weaken nor strengthen.)
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Hi there! Responding to a PM (It's in first person, and a cc of the text)

Background : 3 Sub 700 scores back to back on actual GMAT but 5+ 700+ scores prior to the tests. Game plan for the next 6 weeks?

First off, you're in the most exciting phase of your prep and most too, is an understatement.

What matters :
a. How you boost your confidence
b. Spirit
c. Belief

What you could do :
a. Never look at those ESRs again
b. Not think about your previous scores and your GMAT Prep scores

Why?
a. Because nothing can break your spirit more than thoughts about your past failures
b. You've retaken the GMATPreps so those scores are NOT representative of your abilities

What you must do :
a. Review problem areas (like you've pointed out, CR and RC you need to work on)
b. Take 3 days and review A-Z all concepts in Quants from the GMATClub Quant Handbook by Bunuel and SC by MGMAT, Powerscore CR and Aristotle/MGMAT RC.
c. Practise only new content. (Please comb through my debrief very thoroughly and you'll eventually find all the material i have mentioned there. It's under Copyright so i unfortunately wont be able to send it to you but I have taken the liberty to chalk out a schedule for you which i feel is PERFECT for anyone retaking the GMAT and starting prep within 1.5 months of their test)
d. Take only (and only) those CATs that you havent taken already. (MGMAT is a must if you really want to be at ease on D-Day!)

Dec 2 - Dec 4 :
Quants : Read the Guides from start to finish. There are some fantastic tricks, suggestions and ideas. Start with Numbers (it is the MOST important topic on GMAT)
Verbal : Read the SC guide by MGMAT first. Then read Powerscore’s CR bible (To get a hang of the basics). This should be followed by thorough reading of Aristotle’s RC Strategies.
While you’re at it - practise every possible example in the material you’re reviewing.

Dec 5 - Dec 12 :
After reviewing all the concepts of Quants and Verbal - Use these 8 days to complete

A) Quant 700-800 Level PDF
B) 150 CR
C) SC Latest Collection
D) RC 700-800 Level

Dec 13 - Dec 28
Quant 198 PDF
Bunuel Collection
CR GMATPrep
RC 117 (10 a day)
Quant 125, Quant 50 Tricky, 78 PS, 100 PS DS
108 CR
CR 700-800 Level
SC 1000 (50-80 a day)
RC 117 (10 a day)

**You will have to make sure you dedicate 8 hours a day or so because on an average you can solve about 50-60 SCs in an hour, 40 CRs in an hour and 5-6 RCs in an hour (Which is a total of roughly 3.5 hours on Verbal) and Quant depends purely on the concepts you’ve grasped.


By Dec 28th, complete this entire schedule.

CAT Schedule

Dec 30 : Manhattan GMAT1
Jan 1 : Manhattan GMAT2
Jan 3 : Manhattan GMAT3
Jan 4 : Princeton Review (Since you said you have a good command over Verbal, it'll be nice to get some good practise in Verbal since that is what PR is known for)
Jan 5 : Veritas (It'll be good to just practise some different material and review a 'different' CAT for a change. Do not take score seriously)
Jan 7 : Manhattan GMAT4
Jan 9 : Manhattan GMAT5
Jan 11 : Manhattan GMAT6

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Adding the Youtube Video Debrief into the discussion. Thank you Vedant!

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