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New post 23 Mar 2017, 16:03
Dear mbaMission team,

I would like to ask your advice regarding my school choices. I have taken the GMAT and I will apply in the next first round, intending to start in 2018. I still have time to take the test again, but I want to use the remaining time to finish my specialization course and to improve my current GPA. So I am in doubt if I am making the right choices or if I should include "safer" options. Please fell free if you also want to suggest other school options considering my goals and profile (or to suggest me not to apply to a specific school)!

About me
Brazilian, have worked in the past four years in the product management area of a Fortune 500 chemical company.
My goal is to move to Management Consulting after the MBA.
GMAT Score: 660 (V 34 / Q 47 / IR 7 / AWA 5.5).
Bachelor in Business Administration (GPA 7.75 / 10) and Specialization in Financial Management (GPA 8.6 / 10), both from top ranked brazilian schools.

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I have done some extensive research on these schools and have also visited a few of them. I am planning to apply to the 11 schools in the first round.
Tuck
Yale
Kellogg
Darden
Ross
Cornell
Tepper
UNC Kenan-Flagler
Texas McCombs
Rotman (U Toronto)
IESE

Thank you very much for your time and help!

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New post 28 Mar 2017, 03:37
Ciao brazilclass2020

Thanks for getting in touch and nice job with the Quant score on the GMAT! (47+ is what we like to see!)

In many ways, you are my favorite sort of candidate because you don't need to improve your Quant score that much. And in my experience, Quant is the harder area to improve. To me, you have some low hanging fruit in front of you and that's improving your Verbal. For many of the schools you are targeting, I would much prefer that you increase your GMAT score than take additional coursework to mitigate any perceived GPA issues. 660 is going to be tough for the first six schools on your list. There are many Brazilian male applicants to top b-schools and you want to be competitive. You are contacting us at exactly the right time though because you have time! Contact Manhattan GMAT and ask about private tutoring for your Verbal. I'd really like to see your GMAT score meet or beat the averages at these programs.

With the 660, I think you're right in including lots of safety options on your list. (Although 11 schools in R1 is going to be really tough.) Take a look at USC as well. Maybe Indiana too? Also, definitely look at Notre Dame as they are looking to expand their presence in South America and Brazil specifically.

Hope that helps!
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New post 28 Mar 2017, 05:34
Hi brazilclass2020,

Welcome! It is great to have another brazilian here!

Regarding your choices, if you want to go in the first 6 schools of your list I believe you should increase your GMAT (like mbaMissionKrista said). I have friends that achieved 730 and did not get the green light to them.

If you live in São Paulo, I can recommend to you some tutors that can help you to increase your verbal (or even your quant). Let me know.

Good Luck!

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New post 28 Mar 2017, 19:18
Hi mbaMissionKrista, BrunoP,

Thank you very much for your inputs!

Just to give you a better view of my GMAT score, I have actually taken the test other times. One of the times I scored 650 (Q 42 / V 38) and I tried once again after the 660 and my score declined to 630. Unfortunatelly I didn't get the Q 47 and the V 38 in the same test, otherwise I think I would have reached 700.

So after spending several months studying, I decided to turn back my focus to my specialization course and also to start my research on the schools and on the other parts of the application. I know that I would be on the "low edge" of the GMAT range for most of the school that I intend to apply, but I have decided to apply to schools that are feasible with my current score - I excluded a couple of my initial options, such as Wharton and MIT, since these schools seem to be very sensitive to GMAT Score.

Considering this complementary information and my career goal (Management Consulting), if you were me, would you make any changes in the schools that I have selected? I was initially thinking to apply in the second round, if necessary, to Georgetown and Emory. I haven't done much research yet on USC, Notre Dame and Indiana, that you suggested, but I will also take a look on these schools.

Thanks again for your time and help!!

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Hi again brazilclass2020

I appreciate the level of thought you've put into this process. It's a competitive one and unfortunately, it will be very difficult to crack the top six schools on your list with a 660. Your competition is just really just too tough.

So my answer on schools is pretty much the same as my initial response...If you were my package client, with a top score of 660, I would have you drop Tuck, Yale. Kellogg, and Darden. If you wanted to keep a reach school, keep Cornell and I think it's also worth trying at UNC, McCombs, and Tepper, but bear in mind at your GMAT is still below their averages. ("But I'm in the lower end of the range!" I can already here you say. Remember the range isn't evenly distributed and is likely clustered around the mean. Also, it's harder to be on the lower end of the range if you are from a competitive demographic. )

Then I think I'd have you research Georgetown, Notre Dame, Emory, USC, Indiana, Rotman, Kelley and IESE and pick the four that have what you want, career wise. (Check their published employment reports.) Also, based on your conversations with current students and staff, which schools do you feel the most connection to? Other things to think about...if you're more a city person, Georgetown and Emory are no-brainers. Also, you might want to be somewhere that's within an "easy" flight of Sao Paulo. For example, Notre Dame is a 90 minute drive to O'Hare Airport in Chicago, where there's a direct daily flight to GRU.) Please read our primer on choosing a b-school to help you list out what characteristics are most important to you: https://shop.mbamission.com/products/se ... ba-program)

For further advice, I recommend setting up a free consult with us. Link in our profile. I recommend just picking the date/time that works for you. You don't have to wait for me to be available!

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New post 07 Apr 2017, 08:50
Dear mbaMissionKrista,

Thank you very much for you time and help! It was great hearing from you, you really helped me!

I will research on the schools that you suggested to me and also check the guide on the link that you sent to me!

It would be great to schedule a consult with you, I will get in touch!

Thanks again!

Best Regards,
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