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The country’s Commerce secretary says that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared to about $20 billion in last year.

A)that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion in last year
B)that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, and that is compared to about $20 billion last year
C)spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion last year
D)spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion reached in last year
E)spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, and that is compared to about $20 billion reached last year


My doubt :- How can the option without "that" be correct ?

OA : C


What does compared to modify here?
Could you explain in on the context of ed modifier here?
I thought ed modifier after comma modifies the closest noun.
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Hi, please explain in brief about the redundancy of the word 'in' in option C. How is option C better than option A
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dhler wrote:
So the right option definitely won't contain a "that" as its beginning.

Although GMAT always puts "that" after a verb to introduce an objective clause, there may be one or two times when GMAT choose to omit "that" after the verb "say".

Hopes this helps.


Hi dhler.

Your answer is correct. This question does not require "that". However, I want to elaborate a bit. (It may help those who are still wondering about "that")

(1) "Say + That" vs "Say + That"

* Optional That
The word that is usually optional when it comes after the following verbs: verb, tell, think, believe

Let see examples:
Erica said that she was coming over after work
--OR--
Erica said she was coming over after work
Both are correct. However, the latter is better because it's more concise.

*Obligatory That
The word that is usually obligatory after the following verbs when introducing another clause: mention, declare, report, state (the most common verb we see on GMAT is "report")

(2) Concision in GMAT

If two sentences are correct in terms of grammars, meaning, GMAT chooses the shorter one.
Back to this question. If A were correct, GMAT would have chosen C (say + that) because C is more concise.

Hope it helps.


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Can you kindly explain the redundancy of the word 'in' in option A. Had the sentence be that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion in 2012, would that be correct.
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pqhai wrote:
dhler wrote:
So the right option definitely won't contain a "that" as its beginning.

Although GMAT always puts "that" after a verb to introduce an objective clause, there may be one or two times when GMAT choose to omit "that" after the verb "say".

Hopes this helps.


Hi dhler.

Your answer is correct. This question does not require "that". However, I want to elaborate a bit. (It may help those who are still wondering about "that")

(1) "Say + That" vs "Say + That"

* Optional That
The word that is usually optional when it comes after the following verbs: verb, tell, think, believe

Let see examples:
Erica said that she was coming over after work
--OR--
Erica said she was coming over after work
Both are correct. However, the latter is better because it's more concise.

*Obligatory That
The word that is usually obligatory after the following verbs when introducing another clause: mention, declare, report, state (the most common verb we see on GMAT is "report")

(2) Concision in GMAT

If two sentences are correct in terms of grammars, meaning, GMAT chooses the shorter one.
Back to this question. If A were correct, GMAT would have chosen C (say + that) because C is more concise.

Hope it helps.


Source: Gmat Club Ultimate Grammar


Hi,
Can you kindly explain the redundancy of the word 'in' in option A. Had the sentence be that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion in 2012, would that be correct.


Yes, it would be correct - it is not about redundancy, but about the standard practice of NOT using "in" with "last year" / "next year".

I went there last year... correct
I went there in 2016... correct
I went there in last year... wrong
I went there 2016... wrong
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The country’s Commerce secretary says that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared to about $20 billion in last year.

(A) that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion in last year

(B) that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, and that is compared to about $20 billion last year

(C) spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion last year

(D) spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion reached in last year

(E) spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, and that is compared to about $20 billion reached last year

Hii, Can somebody post the officia solution by Veritas because it will help to better analyze errors
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gmat2805 wrote:
The country’s Commerce secretary says that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared to about $20 billion in last year.

(A) that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion in last year

(B) that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, and that is compared to about $20 billion last year

(C) spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion last year

(D) spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion reached in last year

(E) spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, and that is compared to about $20 billion reached last year

Hii, Can somebody post the officia solution by Veritas because it will help to better analyze errors



Solution: C

Explanation: In this problem, the choice between “compared with” and “compared to” may stick out, but it is not the type of decision point that you should focus on. Typically, “compared with” is used to show differences (as in this case) and “compared to” is used to emphasize similarities. More importantly, you need to focus on whether the comparison is logical and structurally correct. The goal is simply to compare the amount in 2013 with the amount last year. First, you cannot say “$20 billion in last year” in (A) and (D) as that is illogical and should be “$20 billion last year”. In (B) and (E) there is a reference error with “that” – what is the “that” referring to – it is not clear and creates an imprecise and illogical comparison. Answer is (C).
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New post 28 Apr 2018, 02:33
A simple way to quickly answer this question correctly:

'Compared with' is used to compare things similar to each other - Money compared with money
'Compared to' is used to compare things that are different to each other

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Hii Experts,
As I have seen wordiness is very rare reason to eliminate answer choice.It is mostly logical or grammatical error. I am not able to eliminate option A() and (C). There is extra in A. I don't understand why c is better than a
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The country’s Commerce secretary says that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared to about $20 billion in last year.

(A) that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion in last year

(B) that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, and that is compared to about $20 billion last year

(C) spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion last year

(D) spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion reached in last year

(E) spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, and that is compared to about $20 billion reached last year

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/03/business/global/03iht-subsidy03.html

The country’s Finance Ministry says spending on fuel subsidies could reach $23 billion in 2013, compared with about $20 billion last year.

Solution: C

Explanation: In this problem, the choice between “compared with” and “compared to” may stick out, but it is not the type of decision point that you should focus on.

Typically, “compared with” is used to show differences (as in this case) and “compared to” is used to emphasize similarities.

More importantly, you need to focus on whether the comparison is logical and structurally correct.

The goal is simply to compare the amount in 2013 with the amount last year.

First, you cannot say “$20 billion in last year” in (A) and (D) as that is illogical and should be “$20 billion last year”.

In (B) and (E) there is a reference error with “that” – what is the “that” referring to – it is not clear and creates an imprecise and illogical comparison.

Answer is (C).


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gmat2805 wrote:
The country’s Commerce secretary says that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared to about $20 billion in last year.

(A) that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion in last year

(B) that spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, and that is compared to about $20 billion last year

(C) spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion last year

(D) spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, compared with about $20 billion reached in last year

(E) spending on fuel subsidies could reach $40 billion dollars in 2013, and that is compared to about $20 billion reached last year

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/03/business/global/03iht-subsidy03.html

The country’s Finance Ministry says spending on fuel subsidies could reach $23 billion in 2013, compared with about $20 billion last year.

Solution: C

Explanation: In this problem, the choice between “compared with” and “compared to” may stick out, but it is not the type of decision point that you should focus on.

Typically, “compared with” is used to show differences (as in this case) and “compared to” is used to emphasize similarities.

More importantly, you need to focus on whether the comparison is logical and structurally correct.

The goal is simply to compare the amount in 2013 with the amount last year.

First, you cannot say “$20 billion in last year” in (A) and (D) as that is illogical and should be “$20 billion last year”.

In (B) and (E) there is a reference error with “that” – what is the “that” referring to – it is not clear and creates an imprecise and illogical comparison.

Answer is (C).


Bunuel

pls change option A.


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New post 24 Oct 2018, 07:23
Comparison is between 40 billion and 20 billion
C is more crisp in providing intended meaning using few words as compared to D
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How do we know when to use "compare to" vs "compare with"
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How do we know when to use "compare to" vs "compare with"



When Similar things are compared we use Compare with
When unlike things are compared we use compare to

Here we r comparing billion dollars with billion dollars so used compare with
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New post 10 Mar 2019, 03:32
A and B should not have included ‘that’ , as they are using ‘spending’ as a noun, not verb.

In D ‘reached in last year’ is missing a ‘the’ after ‘in’. Soits wrong

‘and that is’ is not right in this context, so E is wrong.



This leaves us with C as the right answer.
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veritas offer many good questions and is now going to the top of quality. but I dont like this question. concison is seldom the only reason to eliminate a choice
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