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(Pronoun Error) The first “that” in the underlined part is a conjunction, while the second “that” (in the phrase “as that of the forty-eight states that remain”) is a singular pronoun. The earlier part of the sentence shows that there is no singular noun, which could serve as an antecedent for “as that.” So, (A) is wrong. (D) has the same error, and can be eliminated for that reason alone.

In (B), the word “worth” serves as the antecedent of the pronoun “that:” that of the forty-eight states. But this directly compares the value to the remaining states, resulting in the comparison of an apple (the worth of the cattle) and an orange (the remaining states); hence, (B) is wrong.

(C) and (E) are both grammatically correct. The difference is in the phrases “almost as much in worth as” and “worth almost as much as.” Between the two, the latter is shorter and is therefore more idiomatic, and (E) is the answer. (It is always best to choose the shorter version when in doubt; the fewer words the better, and usually the clearer.)
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Combined, Texas and Kansas raise cattle that are worth almost as much as that of the forty-eight states that remain.
(A) that are worth almost as much as that of the forty-eight states that remain.
(B) of a worth that is almost as much as the forty-eight states that remain.
(C) almost as much in worth as those of the remaining forty-eight states.
(D) almost as much in worth as that of the remaining forty-eight states.
(E) worth almost as much as those of the remaining forty-eight states.


Still waiting for OA here. It is a clear battle between D and E. Who will win?
I think the most important thing is to ask ourselves

Is cattle singular or plural?

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Hi,
I think the OA is correct as is,but since there are several discussions saying C is the right one,I would like to confirm my reasoning.

Cattle is always plural;hence A and D could be eliminated.
Cattle of a worth is also wrong;hence B can be eliminate
Between C and E,E is more precise.The comparison is between the cattle from Texas and Kansas,and other states-those from the remaining states are worth less.

Is there anything wrong in my reasoning?

--edit typo : "saying D" to "saying C"--

Originally posted by sleepynut on 11 Jan 2017, 00:11.
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sleepynut wrote:
Hi,
I think the OA is correct as is,but since there are several discussions saying D is the right one,I would like to confirm my reasoning.

Cattle is always plural;hence A and D could be eliminated.
Cattle of a worth is also wrong;hence B can be eliminate
Between C and E,E is more precise.The comparison is between the cattle from Texas and Kansas,and other states-those from the remaining states are worth less.

Is there anything wrong in my reasoning?


In both C and E, some words have been omitted - the omission in E is allowed whereas that in C is not:

C: Combined, Texas and Kansas raise cattle (that are) almost as much in worth as those of the remaining forty-eight states.
E. Combined, Texas and Kansas raise cattle (that) worth almost as much as those of the remaining forty-eight states.

The omission of relative pronoun "that" is allowed, but omission of verb is not allowed.
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Re: Combined, Texas and Kansas raise cattle that are worth almost as much [#permalink]
Hi.

Why is the use of those ambiguous. It looks correct to me. Please see the explanation:
1) the comparison is not between Cattle of Kansas , Texas and rest of that of the rest of the states, but the comparison is between their worth. So it should be singular.

Worth of X is similar to that of Y.

However in this question . The worth of remaining 48 states is taken into consideration. Worth of 1 state, 2 states, 3 states, 48 states. Consequently usage of those of is correct.

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In option A there is no antecedent for the second “that”. “that” is singular but there are no singular nouns in the first half od the sentence that it could refer to. Option D has the same problem, so both of them can be discarded. B corrects this problem, “worth” serves as an antecedent for “that”. However, this option has a comparison problem, it compares “value” to “the remaining states”. Now, the reaming two options are both technically correct. I think that then E should be the better answer since it is a bit more concise.
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Experts,

would you pls suggest why we need "those" out here that is plural pronoun.

As per my understanding second "that" is referring to "worth", as we are comparing "worth" that is uncountable noun.
So shouldn't it be singular pronoun "that" only instead of "those" ?

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Experts,

would you pls suggest why we need "those" out here that is plural pronoun.

As per my understanding second "that" is referring to "worth", as we are comparing "worth" that is uncountable noun.
So shouldn't it be singular pronoun "that" only instead of "those" ?

thanks in advance !

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We are comparing cattle, not worth. The basis for comparison is worth. When you say "that" you refer to worth.
Option E - Combined, Texas and Kansas raise cattle worth almost as much as those (Cattle) of the remaining forty-eight states.
Now try to replace those with that (Worth). It won't make sense.

I am no expert, but hope this helps!
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abhik1502 wrote:
Experts,

would you pls suggest why we need "those" out here that is plural pronoun.

As per my understanding second "that" is referring to "worth", as we are comparing "worth" that is uncountable noun.
So shouldn't it be singular pronoun "that" only instead of "those" ?

thanks in advance !

Hey abhik1502
We are comparing cattle, not worth. The basis for comparison is worth. When you say "that" you refer to worth.
Option E - Combined, Texas and Kansas raise cattle worth almost as much as those (Cattle) of the remaining forty-eight states.
Now try to replace those with that (Worth). It won't make sense.

I am no expert, but hope this helps!



Thanks Brian for the reply !
Incase it is cattle then it will make sense. But still I differ whether sentence really mean same.

Also we are using as much as , which is genrally used with non-countable noun.
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abhik1502 wrote:
Experts,

would you pls suggest why we need "those" out here that is plural pronoun.

As per my understanding second "that" is referring to "worth", as we are comparing "worth" that is uncountable noun.
So shouldn't it be singular pronoun "that" only instead of "those" ?

thanks in advance !

Hey abhik1502
We are comparing cattle, not worth. The basis for comparison is worth. When you say "that" you refer to worth.
Option E - Combined, Texas and Kansas raise cattle worth almost as much as those (Cattle) of the remaining forty-eight states.
Now try to replace those with that (Worth). It won't make sense.

I am no expert, but hope this helps!



Thanks Brian for the reply !
Incase it is cattle then it will make sense. But still I differ whether sentence really mean same.

Also we are using as much as , which is genrally used with non-countable noun.


Worth is indeed non-countable. You can't say one worth, two worth, three worth, etc. Could you please elaborate on the "sentence really mean same" portion?
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Sentence is comparing the worth of cattle from state T & K with worth of cattle from other states. So Pronoun should refer to worth only.

Not as worth is non-countable noun, so it should have been "that" in my opinion.
More over phrase "as much as" somewhere supports this fact that we are comparing non-countable noun.

And overall this raises my doubt, why option E is correct with plural pronoun "those"
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Cattle is actually plural. So those wins vs that. Only E remains.
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I am confused with the function of worth in option E.
In my view, worth is past participle.
if worth had been a Noun. Option E would have mean:

Texas and Kanas raise cattle worth., which is non-sensial.
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