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Neither of my aunts, both of whom visited Venice last spring, want to return.

(A) visited Venice last spring, want
(B) have visited Venice last spring, want
(C) had visited Venice last spring, want
(D) visited Venice last spring, wants
(E) have visited Venice last spring, wants

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Ans is pretty obvious..I would just like to know whether this is correct: Neither of my aunts, both of whom had visited Venice last spring, wants to return.
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Ans is D

Using had is incorrect because we dont have any other simple past in the question to benchmark.

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Ans is D

Using had is incorrect because we dont have any other simple past in the question to benchmark.


It should be "wanted to return" instead of "wants" for the usage of had visited to be correct
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addict1ve wrote:
Ans is D

Using had is incorrect because we dont have any other simple past in the question to benchmark.


It should be "wanted to return" instead of "wants" for the usage of had visited to be correct


Yes, correct..
If we have 'wanted', it will give one simple past to make 'had' correct..

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Here is my input :
since the sentence mentions the time of the event "last spring" hence the tense must be Simple Past.
Only two contenders based on the verb - wants.
since have (present perfect) is not appropriate --- option D should be the correct answer.

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JusTLucK04 wrote:
Neither of my aunts, both of whom visited Venice last spring, want to return.

A. visited Venice last spring, want
B. have visited Venice last spring, want
C. had visited Venice last spring, want
D. visited Venice last spring, wants
E. have visited Venice last spring, wants

Ans is pretty obvious..I would just like to know whether this is correct: Neither of my aunts, both of whom had visited Venice last spring, wants to return.


Grammars:

1. Neither of my aunts = None of .... ==> ALWAYS Singular in GMAT
2. "Last spring" = simple past tense signal.
3. Use past perfect ONLY you compare to another point of time in the past. Otherwise, simple past is enough.

Answer:

A. visited Venice last spring, want
Wrong.

B. have visited Venice last spring, want
Wrong.

C. had visited Venice last spring, want
Wrong.

D. visited Venice last spring, wants
Correct.

E. have visited Venice last spring, wants
Wrong.

Hope it helps.
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Why E (my choice) is wrong.

....A time frame / phrase (last spring) that does not include the present PREVENTS the use of present perfect (have / has + past participle) - simple perfect instead.

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Why E (my choice) is wrong.

....A time frame / phrase (last spring) that does not include the present PREVENTS the use of present perfect (have / has + past participle) - simple perfect instead.



if a specific timeframe, such as “last spring,” is given, the present perfect is incorrect (while you can say that you “have” done something since a particular time, you cannot say that you “have” done something at a particular time ). The simple past, “visited,” is correct.

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JusTLucK04 wrote:
Neither of my aunts, both of whom visited Venice last spring, want to return.

A. visited Venice last spring, want
B. have visited Venice last spring, want
C. had visited Venice last spring, want
D. visited Venice last spring, wants
E. have visited Venice last spring, wants

Ans is pretty obvious..I would just like to know whether this is correct: Neither of my aunts, both of whom had visited Venice last spring, wants to return.


Grammars:

1. Neither of my aunts = None of .... ==> ALWAYS Singular in GMAT
2. "Last spring" = simple past tense signal.
3. Use past perfect ONLY you compare to another point of time in the past. Otherwise, simple past is enough.

Answer:

A. visited Venice last spring, want
Wrong.

B. have visited Venice last spring, want
Wrong.

C. had visited Venice last spring, want
Wrong.

D. visited Venice last spring, wants
Correct.

E. have visited Venice last spring, wants
Wrong.

Hope it helps.


Hi, Shouldn't present perfect be used here, as the activity "visited Venice" happened in past and still has the effect (as "Neither aunts wants to return"). Can you please explain in details. Thanks in advance!!

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pqhai wrote:
JusTLucK04 wrote:
Neither of my aunts, both of whom visited Venice last spring, want to return.

A. visited Venice last spring, want
B. have visited Venice last spring, want
C. had visited Venice last spring, want
D. visited Venice last spring, wants
E. have visited Venice last spring, wants

Ans is pretty obvious..I would just like to know whether this is correct: Neither of my aunts, both of whom had visited Venice last spring, wants to return.


Grammars:

1. Neither of my aunts = None of .... ==> ALWAYS Singular in GMAT
2. "Last spring" = simple past tense signal.
3. Use past perfect ONLY you compare to another point of time in the past. Otherwise, simple past is enough.

Answer:

A. visited Venice last spring, want
Wrong.

B. have visited Venice last spring, want
Wrong.

C. had visited Venice last spring, want
Wrong.

D. visited Venice last spring, wants
Correct.

E. have visited Venice last spring, wants
Wrong.

Hope it helps.


Hi, Shouldn't present perfect be used here, as the activity "visited Venice" happened in past and still has the effect (as "Neither aunts wants to return"). Can you please explain in details. Thanks in advance!!


Hi,

When you say something happened last spring, it means the activity is already over and therefore PRESENT perfect is not valid here..

However if I modified this sentence as ---
Neither of my aunts, both of whom have not visited Venice since last spring, wants to return.
Now here, it is an on-going event, wherein they have not come till now... the PERIOD is continuing so PRESENT perfect is required..

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JusTLucK04 wrote:
Neither of my aunts, both of whom visited Venice last spring, want to return.

(A) visited Venice last spring, want
(B) have visited Venice last spring, want
(C) had visited Venice last spring, want
(D) visited Venice last spring, wants
(E) have visited Venice last spring, wants


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The underline is pretty short, so you may want to compare the answers before reading the question stem. There are two main splits in the answer choices: visited/have visited/has visited, and want/wants. In the original sentence, visited is correct.

The main verb want, however, is problematic. Any noun in a prepositional phrase, such as of my aunts, cannot be the subject of a sentence. Nor can a noun in a modifier (both of whom visited Venice last spring). The subject of the sentence must be neither, which is always singular (think of it as "neither one"), so the singular wants is the correct verb.

(A) The singular subject neither does not match the plural verb want.

(B) The singular subject neither does not match the plural verb want. In addition, have visited is the wrong tense. It is possible in general to say that two people have visited Venice. This construction, however, should not be attached to a specific time frame (last spring). Either they visited last spring or they have visited at some unspecified time in the past.

(C) The singular subject neither does not match the plural verb want. The construction had visited is also incorrect; the usage of past perfect requires a second past event or time marker that takes place later in the past than the past perfect event. Last spring is when they visited, not later in the past, and the sentence does not contain another past time marker or simple past tense verb.

(D) CORRECT. The singular subject neither matches the singular verb wants.

(E) The singular subject neither matches the singular verb wants. However, have visited is the wrong tense. It is possible in general to say that two people have visited Venice. This construction, however, should not be attached to a specific time frame (last spring). Either they visited last spring or they have visited at some unspecified time in the past.
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Neither of my aunts, both of whom visited Venice last spring, want to return.

(A) visited Venice last spring, want
Neither of my aunts (singular) ...want (Plural) : SV error : Incorrect
(B) have visited Venice last spring, want
Same as A
Have visited last spring is incorrect ; use of present perfect with past time indicator is wrong

(C) had visited Venice last spring, want
SV error
Use of past perfect in not required ; No other event in past exists .so,simple past is ok

(D) visited Venice last spring, wants
Correct : SV is ok ; Visited(past tense) ... last spring(past time indicator) is correct
(E) have visited Venice last spring, wants
Have visited last spring is incorrect ; use of present perfect with past time indicator is wrong

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