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Just to confirm (I did a Google research but there seemed to be no definitive answer). - reluctant TO DO something and reluctant ABOUT something are both correct idioms. Is that correct?

Or why else is E better than B? Thanks so much!
Hello, shabuzen102. You can find all sorts of things on the Internet. According to two separate sources I have consulted, one of which is an unabridged Collins English Dictionary, the idiom is reluctant to, not reluctant about. You can be hesitant about something, and hesitant is synonymous with reluctant, so I understand how people could become confused, but reluctant + about simply do not go together in Standard American English, the type that is tested on the GMAT™. Otherwise, there would indeed be little to separate (B) from (E). You could argue that by placing Japanese unions first, the referent to those is less clear, but I think this one at its base comes down to the idiom.

I hope that helps. If you have further questions, feel free to ask.

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Hi, I still didn't get to know whats wrong with (C)? A comparison error?
Hello, lakshya14. (C) is a subtle one, with a blink-and-you-miss-it comparison error, but strictly speaking, yes, Japanese unions are being compared to the United States as a country. In my earlier post, I explained how the error is easier to spot if you rearrange a little:

Unions in Japan, unlike the United States, appear reluctant to organize lower-paid workers.

There is a missing preposition, in, in the comparison that throws the balance off. You also cannot carry over the preposition as an understood element:

Unions in Japan, unlike [in] the United States, appear reluctant to organize lower-paid workers.

This does, however, draw our attention to the proper comparison, one with parallel elements that incorporate unions + in + country name. Notice how the correct answer addresses the issue:

Unlike those [unions] in the United States, Japanese unions (or unions in Japan) appear reluctant to organize.

I hope this fuller treatment clarifies the matter. I want to thank you for posing your question. You have gotten the thousandth post out of me, a monumental event in my eyes, and I am pleased to have used it on a personal response to someone who has crossed paths with me before. When you ask these sorts of questions, I am forced to examine the issues a bit closer, and I feel I become a little better at my tutoring in the process.

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I still can't find this version of this question anywhere except online. In my OG 11, option C is:

In Japan, unlike the United States, unions appear reluctant about organizing

1. If there is no other version of this question, option C should be edited.
2. If this option C is there in one of the OGs, the OG 11 tag should be removed from this question, and a new question added.
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Unlike those in the United States, Japanese unions appear reluctant to organize

'those' appears to be "Japanese Unions".How it can be 'unions'?

option C seems better choice.

Can you please clarify on this?
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Unlike those in the United States, Japanese unions appear reluctant to organize

'those' appears to be "Japanese Unions".How it can be 'unions'?

option C seems better choice.

Can you please clarify on this?

Hi

Let me try to address your query. Let us examine answer option (B):

Unlike those in the United States, Japanese unions appear reluctant to organize lower-paid workers.

As you can see, "those" is not a standalone pronoun but it immediately identifies it's position as well - "in the United States". Hence, "those" refers to something in the US; what that something is is made clear immediately following the comma, "Japanese Unions". Since we know that "those" refers to something in the US, it cannot be Japansese Unions, and must hence, only refer to "unions" in the US.

Option (C) compares something "in Japan" with "the United States", the country itself, and hence is incorrect.

I hope this clarifies.
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Hello GMATNinja,

How can we make sure that "THOSE" in option B is not referring to "Japanese unions" i.e. Unlike Japanese unions in the United Sates, Japanese unions.....
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Hello GMATNinja,

How can we make sure that "THOSE" in option B is not referring to "Japanese unions" i.e. Unlike Japanese unions in the United Sates, Japanese unions.....

Hi Alicia

Two things here:

i) "Japanese" is used as an adjective meaning "present in Japan" and not the people of Japan (as is evident from the rest of the sentence)
ii) If the sentence were to refer to Japanese unions in America, the rest of the sentence must contrast that appropriately ie; it must state "Japanese unions in Japan" rather than just "Japanese unions"

Therefore, we can surmise that the reference is to the location of the unions and not the people comprising it.

Hope this clarifies.
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Just to confirm (I did a Google research but there seemed to be no definitive answer). - reluctant TO DO something and reluctant ABOUT something are both correct idioms. Is that correct?

Or why else is E better than B? Thanks so much!
Hello, shabuzen102. You can find all sorts of things on the Internet. According to two separate sources I have consulted, one of which is an unabridged Collins English Dictionary, the idiom is reluctant to, not reluctant about. You can be hesitant about something, and hesitant is synonymous with reluctant, so I understand how people could become confused, but reluctant + about simply do not go together in Standard American English, the type that is tested on the GMAT™. Otherwise, there would indeed be little to separate (B) from (E). You could argue that by placing Japanese unions first, the referent to those is less clear, but I think this one at its base comes down to the idiom.

I hope that helps. If you have further questions, feel free to ask.

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I chose (C). Can't really find the difference between it and (B)?
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I chose (C). Can't really find the difference between it and (B)?
Hello, lakshya14. If you straighten out what (B) and (C) are expressing, you will spot the weak point in the latter. To be honest, you do not even have to consider the non-underlined portion of the sentence.

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(B) Unlike those in the United States, Japanese unions appear reluctant to organize
Think about what is being compared, specifically what those in refers to: it must be unions, and unions alone (not Japanese unions, since there would then be no way to separate Japanese unions in the U.S. from Japanese unions in Japan). We can reinterpret (B) as saying,

Unlike unions in the United States, unions in Japan appear reluctant to organize

This is perfectly parallel, and the meaning is clear. Now take a look at (C):

Quote:
In Japan, unlike the United States, unions appear reluctant to organize
Again, think about what is being compared. Importantly, the preposition in does not carry over to the second element, allowing us to expose the flaw by following the main thread to its logical conclusion and then dropping in the comparative element:

In Japan, unions appear reluctant to organize, unlike the United States

The missing in is now glaring. Comparisons are rigidly governed on the GMAT™. Be careful to make sure that like (or unlike) is compared with like. The test also happens to be cunning in its placement of words and phrases right next to each other that sound natural together but that, when teased apart, lead to gaps or overloaded words.

I hope that helps. If you need further clarification, just ask.

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Hello, Tushrgupta. The issue is really one of comparing like and like, unions of Japan (or Japanese unions) with unions of America (or American unions). The nationality of the people within those unions in either country goes beyond the scope of the question. It can help to trace the comparison being made in each answer choice to eliminate a few options:


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(C) In Japan, unlike the United States, unions appear reluctant to organize
Here again, we see a comparison between unions and a country. Straighten out the beginning of the sentence, and it would say, Unions in Japan, unlike the United States. You would need a those in or those of ahead of the United States to draw a proper comparison.
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I am sorry to say that I can't figure out how the highlighted part fix the problem! Could you explain how 'those of' works like this way?
Unions in Japan, unlike the United States...
Unions in Japan, unlike those of the United States...-->Unions in Japan, unlike Unions of the United States...
The parallelism of IN and OF is somewhat absurd, possibly!
Could you clarify, please?
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Hello, Tushrgupta. The issue is really one of comparing like and like, unions of Japan (or Japanese unions) with unions of America (or American unions). The nationality of the people within those unions in either country goes beyond the scope of the question. It can help to trace the comparison being made in each answer choice to eliminate a few options:


swath20
(C) In Japan, unlike the United States, unions appear reluctant to organize
Here again, we see a comparison between unions and a country. Straighten out the beginning of the sentence, and it would say, Unions in Japan, unlike the United States. You would need a those in or those of ahead of the United States to draw a proper comparison.
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I am sorry to say that I can't figure out how the highlighted part fix the problem! Could you explain how 'those of' works like this way?
Unions in Japan, unlike the United States...
Unions in Japan, unlike those of the United States...-->Unions in Japan, unlike Unions of the United States...
The parallelism of IN and OF is somewhat absurd, possibly!
Could you clarify, please?
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Hello, TheUltimateWinner. On the GMAT™, I would expect to see a perfectly parallel in... in in the correct answer. I would not worry about other cases that you might encounter outside of the confines of the test. At the same time, parallelism is not the top priority in SC questions. Take a look at this strange question, for instance, that I came across earlier today. Follow parallelism only, and you will likely go off-track.

Do not sweat every finer detail or each variation of a sentence. Just go with the best answer of the lot presented.

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Dear expert,

Just to confirm (I did a Google research but there seemed to be no definitive answer). - reluctant TO DO something and reluctant ABOUT something are both correct idioms. Is that correct?

Or why else is E better than B? Thanks so much!
Hello, shabuzen102. You can find all sorts of things on the Internet. According to two separate sources I have consulted, one of which is an unabridged Collins English Dictionary, the idiom is reluctant to, not reluctant about. You can be hesitant about something, and hesitant is synonymous with reluctant, so I understand how people could become confused, but reluctant + about simply do not go together in Standard American English, the type that is tested on the GMAT™. Otherwise, there would indeed be little to separate (B) from (E). You could argue that by placing Japanese unions first, the referent to those is less clear, but I think this one at its base comes down to the idiom.

I hope that helps. If you have further questions, feel free to ask.

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Hi AndrewN

I have often heard that the GMAT is moving away from testing idioms. Based on this, do you think that this would be a fair question nowadays?
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Hi AndrewN

I have often heard that the GMAT is moving away from testing idioms. Based on this, do you think that this would be a fair question nowadays?
Good question, samsung1234. I think idioms will always play a part in SC questions. Why? Because it is virtually impossible to create difficult, meaning-based questions without going beyond mechanical issues such as subject-verb agreement, modifiers, or parallelism. I would add, however, that I see fewer questions in more recent editions of the OG that rely on idiomatic usage as the sole consideration between the correct answer and an incorrect trap. Some older questions I have seen might have a single word underlined, and I think those questions are falling by the wayside as the international pool of test-takers increases.

So, do I think the above question could appear as such on the current GMAT™? Yes, I do. Comparisons are quite often tested, and this question is bound within one, requiring a careful read to avoid making a hasty conclusion. You have to ask yourself, Are like entities being compared? When I scan the answer choices, I see the following:

(A) country-to-union comparison X
(B) union-to-union comparison
(C) missing in in country-to-country comparison X
(D) union-to-country comparison X
(E) union-to-union comparison

Now, between (B) and (E), even without resorting to idioms, you can ask yourself whether the infinitive form to organize at the tail-end of the underlined portion is incorrect. If the answer is no, then there is no way to attack (B). It is okay to be unsure about (E), but you do not want to chase what could be the correct answer. Work from a place of comfort instead and seek to disprove what you can.

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I read all of the replies. I still don't understand why is B correct.
Isn't 'those' in option B referring to Japanese unions?
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I read all of the replies. I still don't understand why is B correct.
Isn't 'those' in option B referring to Japanese unions?
Only to unions, because this is what makes sense.

This is the "flexibility" we get with the usage of "those": "those" can refer to a plural noun that makes "logical sense".

For example:

Unlike those in India, children in Australia become Independent sooner in life.

Again, "those" is not referring to "children in Australia", but to "children" alone.
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I read all of the replies. I still don't understand why is B correct.
Isn't 'those' in option B referring to Japanese unions?

Hello lovikansal,

We hope this finds you well.

Having gone through the question and your query, we believe we can resolve your doubt.

In Option B, "those" refers only to "unions" not to "Japanese unions".

Although "those" can technically refer to either "unions" or "Japanese unions", this is not a case of pronoun ambiguity; logically, it can only make sense for "those" to refer to "unions", as it would be illogical to suggest that Japanese unions are unlike Japanese unions in America.

To understand the concept of "Exceptions to Pronoun Ambiguity" on GMAT, you may want to watch the following video (~2 minutes):



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GMATNinja Can you please help me understand how can those refer to the unions?

The common explanation here is that if those referred to 'Japanese Unions', the sentence wouldn't make sense. Shouldn't that be the reason to eliminate option B?

'Sound' doesn't matter on SC right?

Wouldn't the whole SC section be pointless if we assumed and accepted a sentence formation based on whether or not it makes sense to us?
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The point is not rather those which clearly refers to Unions

Unlike the unions in the US, THOSE in Japan.........which is the perfect way of comparison

Hre the real point is the exact construction.

Introductory Prepositional Phrases on X, the union in Japan (subject) appear (verb) how (reluctant - adjective) to do what ? Organize

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