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Why is B better than E for Q3. Can you please provide your explanation?

What's the meaning of contrast here?
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86. The passage is primarily concerned with

(A) presenting various groups' views of the motives of those proposing certain legislation
(B) contrasting the reasoning of various groups concerning their positions on certain proposed legislation
(C) tracing the process whereby certain proposed legislation was eventually enacted
(D) assessing the success of tactics adopted by various groups with respect to certain proposed legislation
(E) evaluating the arguments of various groups concerning certain proposed legislation
The problem with (E) is that the author does not evaluate the arguments of the various groups. The author simply explains those arguments and the reasoning behind them, without assessing (or "evaluating") their validity.

The author contrasts the reasoning behind those arguments by comparing them and explaining their differences. Thus, choice (B) is the best answer.
GMATNinja Thank you sir for explanation. Which types of sign indicates that the author is evaluating the system/process/method, etc.? My thinking says about the evaluating that the author puts both positive and negative tone of the system/process/method and eventually s/he put his/her own opinion. Is my thinking right? or, is there anything else other than my thinking for the word evaluating?
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The passage is primarily concerned with

(A) presenting various groups' views of the motives of those proposing certain legislation
(B) contrasting the reasoning of various groups concerning their positions on certain proposed legislation
(C) tracing the process whereby certain proposed legislation was eventually enacted
(D) assessing the success of tactics adopted by various groups with respect to certain proposed legislation
(E) evaluating the arguments of various groups concerning certain proposed legislation


(A) is a bit convoluted!

Start at the end of the answer choice: "...the motives of those proposing certain legislation."

"Those proposing certain legislation" are the people mentioned at the beginning of the passage who wanted to prevent women from working in white lead factories. So, the "motives" of these people are the reasons that they want to enact this rule. For instance, maybe they really did want to keep women safe. Or perhaps they actually hated the idea of women in the workforce, and their true motive was to limit jobs for women.

Here's the whole of (A): "presenting various groups' views of the motives of those proposing certain legislation." The "various groups" are WIDC, SPEW, and WTUL. In the passage, we certainly hear about these groups' views -- but does the passage discuss their views on the motives of the people enacting the new rules?

Nope. The passage tells us about how these groups viewed the new legislation itself (WIDC and SPEW opposed it, while WTUL supported it), but we never hear about how these groups view the motives of the people behind the legislation.

You can eliminate (A) for question 3.

I hope that helps!
GMATNinja Thank you sir for distinct explanation. I've a query for the same sort of thing that you explained above.
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Suggest and present a suggestion are not the same thing! Present a suggestion means somebody else made the suggestion. Suggest means author is going to suggest. In the primary purpose question, we always consider the author's part (not the somebody/other guys part).
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(A) presenting various groups' views of the motives of those proposing certain legislation

So, in choice A, presenting various groups' views is something like other guys views (not the author's view at all)? Should I cross out choice A as this is not the part of the author?
I am facing the problem in this sorts of answer option (e.g., presenting blah blah blah). Hope you understand my question.
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These are the highlights of the passage:

Home Secretary proposed in 1895 that Parliament enact legislation that would prohibit women from holding most jobs in white lead factories.

Although WIDC did not discount the white lead trade's potential health dangers, it opposed the proposal, viewing it as yet another instance of limiting women's work opportunities.

Also opposing the proposal was SPEW, which attempted to challenge it by investigating the causes of illness in white lead factories.

SPEW contended, and WIDC concurred, that controllable conditions in such factories were responsible for the development of lead poisoning. SPEW provided convincing evidence that lead poisoning could be avoided

However, WTUL supported the eventually enacted proposal, in part because safety regulations were generally not being enforced in white lead factories, where there were no unions (and little prospect of any) to pressure employers to comply with safety regulations.



3. The passage is primarily concerned with

(A) presenting various groups' views of the motives of those proposing certain legislation

Various groups' views of the motives of Home Secy are not given.

(B) contrasting the reasoning of various groups concerning their positions on certain proposed legislation

Correct. It contrasts the reasons why various groups held the position they did on the proposed legislation. e.g. WIDC opposed it because it saw the legislation as yet another instance of limiting women's work opportunities. etc. SPEW also opposed. In contrast, WTUL supported because regulations were not enforced.

(C) tracing the process whereby certain proposed legislation was eventually enacted

The process is not given. Only the positions of various groups and reasons behind those positions.

(D) assessing the success of tactics adopted by various groups with respect to certain proposed legislation

Only SPEW's efforts are discussed briefly.

(E) evaluating the arguments of various groups concerning certain proposed legislation

The author doesn't evaluate the groups' arguments. He only gives the positions held by the groups. The author doesn't say "WIDC had a good point" etc.

Answer (B)
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1. The passage suggests that WIDC differed from WTUL in which of the following ways?

(A) WIDC believed that the existing safety regulations were adequate to protect women's health, whereas WTUL believed that such regulations needed to be strengthened.

WTUL did not believe that current regulations were not sufficient. They believed that the regulations were not fully enforced.

(B) WIDC believed that unions could not succeed in pressuring employers to comply with such regulations, whereas WTUL believed that unions could succeed in doing so.

Not given that WIDC believed that unions could not succeed in pressuring employers to comply with such regulations.

(C) WIDC believed that lead poisoning in white lead factories could be avoided by controlling conditions there, whereas WTUL believed that lead poisoning in such factories could not be avoided no matter how stringently safety regulations were enforced.

Not given that WTUL believed that lead poisoning could not be avoided even by enforcing safety regulations. We are only given that WTUL believed that regulations were not being enforced especially if there were no unions.

(D) At the time that the legislation concerning white lead factories was proposed, WIDC was primarily concerned with addressing health conditions in white lead factories, whereas WTUL was concerned with improving working conditions in all types of factories.

Not known.

(E) At the time that WIDC was opposing legislative attempts to restrict women's labor, WTUL had already ceased to do so.

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WIDC, formed in 1892 in response to earlier legislative attempts to restrict women's labor, ... opposed the proposal...
WTUL, which had ceased in the late 1880s to oppose restrictions on women's labor, supported the eventually enacted proposal...

WIDC was formed in 1892 and was opposing the proposal. WTUL had ceased opposing restrictions in 1880s. So when WIDC was opposing the proposal (any time during or after 1892), WTUL had ceased opposing.

Answer (E)
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I have discussed the Primary Purpose question in detail in this post:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/rc-primary-c ... l#p2815385
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GMATNinja Thank you sir for explanation. Which types of sign indicates that the author is evaluating the system/process/method, etc.? My thinking says about the evaluating that the author puts both positive and negative tone of the system/process/method and eventually s/he put his/her own opinion. Is my thinking right? or, is there anything else other than my thinking for the word evaluating?
You're on the right track! To "evaluate" something is just to investigate it's value -- so, to evaluate an argument is just to weigh in on the validity of the argument. You don't necessarily need to have an equal number of positive and negative things to say before giving your opinion: the "evaluation" could just be that the argument is absolute crap, or that it is really great.


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Suggest and present a suggestion are not the same thing! Present a suggestion means somebody else made the suggestion. Suggest means author is going to suggest. In the primary purpose question, we always consider the author's part (not the somebody/other guys part).

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(A) presenting various groups' views of the motives of those proposing certain legislation

So, in choice A, presenting various groups' views is something like other guys views (not the author's view at all)? Should I cross out choice A as this is not the part of the author?
I am facing the problem in this sorts of answer option (e.g., presenting blah blah blah). Hope you understand my question.
The author's purpose could be to explain somebody else's view. Let's say a sports commentator comes up with a new theory about why the Broncos have been so bad for the last 5 years -- I could write an entire article just to share that commentator's view. My "primary purpose" would be to present the view of that commentator.

You really can't use that language to eliminate options for primary purpose questions. Instead of developing such "rules" that don't work all of the time, it's better to take each question on a case-by-case basis. Here, the author doesn't discuss "various groups' views of the motives of those proposing certain legislation." (A) is out for question 3.

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SPEW provided convincing evidence that lead poisoning could be avoided if workers were careful and clean and if already extant workplace safety regulations were stringently enforced.
The word lowest is too much extreme. The passage does not guarantee that if the quoting part happen then the LOWEST incidence would happen.
Am I missing anything?
You are missing something. Take a look at what the question is asking:
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Which of the following, if true, would most clearly support the contention attributed to SPEW in highlighted text?
Here, we're not looking for something that's mentioned in the passage. Instead, we have to look through the answer choices and determine which one would, if true, support SPEW's contention.

In other words, this is very similar to a critical reasoning question that asks us to strengthen the argument.

(A) does exactly that -- if it were true that enforcing regulations leads to the lowest incidences of lead poisoning among employees, then SPEW's argument would be pretty dang strong.

Because (A) would strengthen SPEW's contention, it's the correct answer to question 2.

I hope that helps!
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Acting on the recommendation of a British government committee investigating the high incidence in white lead factories of illness among employees, most of who were women, the Home Secretary proposed in 1895 that Parliament enact legislation that would prohibit women from holding most jobs in white lead factories. Although the Women's Industrial Defense Committee (WIDC), formed in 1892 in response to earlier legislative attempts to restrict women's labor, did not discount the white lead trade's potential health dangers, it opposed the proposal, viewing it as yet another instance of limiting women's work opportunities. Also opposing the proposal was the Society for Promoting the Employment of Women (SPEW), which attempted to challenge it by investigating the causes of illness in white lead factories. SPEW contended, and WIDC concurred, that controllable conditions in such factories were responsible for the development of lead poisoning. SPEW provided convincing evidence that lead poisoning could be avoided if workers were careful and clean and if already extant workplace safety regulations were stringently enforced. However, the Women's Trade Union League (WTUL), which had ceased in the late 1880s to oppose restrictions on women's labor, supported the eventually enacted proposal, in part because safety regulations were generally not being enforced in white lead factories, where there were no unions (and little prospect of any) to pressure employers to comply with safety regulations.

1. The passage suggests that WIDC differed from WTUL in which of the following ways?

(A) WIDC believed that the existing safety regulations were adequate to protect women's health, whereas WTUL believed that such regulations needed to be strengthened.
(B) WIDC believed that unions could not succeed in pressuring employers to comply with such regulations, whereas WTUL believed that unions could succeed in doing so.
(C) WIDC believed that lead poisoning in white lead factories could be avoided by controlling conditions there, whereas WTUL believed that lead poisoning in such factories could not be avoided no matter how stringently safety regulations were enforced.
(D) At the time that the legislation concerning white lead factories was proposed, WIDC was primarily concerned with addressing health conditions in white lead factories, whereas WTUL was concerned with improving working conditions in all types of factories.
(E) At the time that WIDC was opposing legislative attempts to restrict women's labor, WTUL had already ceased to do so.


2. Which of the following, if true, would most clearly support the contention attributed to SPEW in highlighted text?

(A) Those white lead factories that most strongly enforced regulations concerning worker safety and hygiene had the lowest incidences of lead poisoning among employees.
(B) The incidence of lead poisoning was much higher among women who worked in white lead factories than among women who worked in other types of factories.
(C) There were many household sources of lead that could have contributed to the incidence of lead poisoning among women who also worked outside the home in the late nineteenth century.
(D) White lead factories were more stringent than were certain other types of factories in their enforcement of workplace safety regulations.
(E) Even brief exposure to the conditions typically found in white lead factories could cause lead poisoning among factory workers.


3. The passage is primarily concerned with

(A) presenting various groups' views of the motives of those proposing certain legislation
(B) contrasting the reasoning of various groups concerning their positions on certain proposed legislation
(C) tracing the process whereby certain proposed legislation was eventually enacted
(D) assessing the success of tactics adopted by various groups with respect to certain proposed legislation
(E) evaluating the arguments of various groups concerning certain proposed legislation


4. According to the passage, the WIDC believed that the proposed legislation resembled earlier legislation concerning women’s labor in that it

(A) caused divisiveness among women’s organizations
(B) sought to protect women’s health
(C) limited women’s occupational opportunities
(D) failed to bolster workplace safety regulations
(E) failed to make distinctions among types of factory work



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in Q.3 Why option A is incorrect

Law's motive: Restrict women jobs.

Passage then mention viewpoint of 3 different organisation to 'why law SHOULD NOT RESTRICT WOMEN From participating in jobs.

With this understanding I marked option A.Whereas in B, nowhere i feel contrast has been made


(A) presenting various groups' views of the motives of those proposing certain legislation
(B) contrasting the reasoning of various groups concerning their positions on certain proposed legislation

Option (A) would mean this:

"Home Secretary proposed that would prohibit women from holding most jobs in white lead factories"

Group A - The home secretary is proposing this because he does not want women to be financially independent.
Group B - No, the home secretary is proposing this because he cares about the health of women who are often responsible for running the household
Group C - No, the home secretary is proposing this because he wants to put his own men in their place.

This would be various groups presenting motives of the one proposing this legislation.

This is not what the passage does. It gives the positions various groups hold and their reasons -
WIDC opposed the proposal, viewing it as yet another instance of limiting women's work opportunities
Also opposing the proposal was SPEW which provided convincing evidence that lead poisoning could be avoided if workers were careful and clean
...
Hence (B) is correct.

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You always help make complicated questions less scary!

I have a quick question on Choice D for #556 (the passage suggests that WIDC differed from WTUL in which of the following ways?), the OG does not mention this part of answer Choice D being incorrect: "whereas WTUL was concerned with improving working conditions in all types of factories". Isn't this incorrect? According to the passage, WTUL worked to "oppose restrictions on women's labor". The passage does not mention if WTUL was concerned with improving working conditions in all types of factories. Thank you for all of your time and help :)
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You always help make complicated questions less scary!

I have a quick question on Choice D for #556 (the passage suggests that WIDC differed from WTUL in which of the following ways?), the OG does not mention this part of answer Choice D being incorrect: "whereas WTUL was concerned with improving working conditions in all types of factories". Isn't this incorrect? According to the passage, WTUL worked to "oppose restrictions on women's labor". The passage does not mention if WTUL was concerned with improving working conditions in all types of factories. Thank you for all of your time and help :)

I wouldn't worry too much about the OG explanation and I certainly wouldn't try to read between the lines (such as, what is not pointed out in OG as an error is correct)

When I read the passage, I see that "WIDC was formed in 1892 in response to earlier legislative attempts to restrict women's labor." (we don't know the kind of industries) Presumably, they were focussing on various different kind of industries. The passage doesn't say that they were working towards improving conditions in white lead factories only.

As for WTUL, they had ceased in the late 1880s to oppose restrictions on women's labor and they supported the eventually enacted proposal...
WTUL was an older organisation and they had already stopped opposing restrictions on women's labor. Again, the passage doesn't mention whether they were involved with only white lead factories or all.

Hence we have no information for option (D).
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Experts, please help with Q1.
I feel option C should be correct option choice as it has been mentioned in passage that WTUL did not want women to work as this organization thought that safety measures cannot be followed. And we also know from passage that WIDC was in favour of working women.
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I feel option C should be correct option choice as it has been mentioned in passage that WTUL did not want women to work as this organization thought that safety measures cannot be followed. And we also know from passage that WIDC was in favour of working women.

Nope—in fact, neither part of choice C is supported.

The first part ("WIDC believed that lead poisoning in white lead factories could be avoided by controlling conditions there") is actually supported for SPEW, not for WIDC: SPEW provided convincing evidence that lead poisoning could be avoided if workers were careful and clean and if already extant workplace safety regulations were stringently enforced.
The passage says nothing that could substantiate a similar assertion about WIDC.

The second part ("WTUL believed that lead poisoning in such factories could not be avoided no matter how stringently safety regulations were enforced") is also unsupported.
The end of the passage says that safety regulations were generally not being enforced (FACT) in white lead factories, because there were no entities such as unions that could enforce them. The counterfactual hypothetical scenario "What if they WERE being maximally enforced?", which constitutes the second half of choice C, is not considered.
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Hi GMATNinja

I appreciate your comments a lot, but one point is confusing...

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Hi Gmatninja, Gmatninja2,
I have a query regarding understanding of words - contend and concur in this passage.
Contend means to argue and concur means to be in harmony with.
My query is regarding part in bold, if SPEW opposes initial proposal of home secretary that women should be stopped from working in lead factories due to high chance of illness,
How can concur we place another contrasting word concur so adjacent to WIDC which in fact also opposes home secretary's proposal?
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SPEW contended, and WIDC concurred, that controllable conditions in such factories were responsible for the development of lead poisoning.
In this context, "concur" means to "agree" and "content" means to "argue" or "assert" (as in, to assert something as a position in an argument).

For example, Mike contends that going to the gym is a waste of time, and Charles concurs. In other words, Mike argues that going to the gym is a waste of time, and Charles agrees with Mike (i.e. Charles would also contend that going to the gym is a waste of time).

Referring to the part in bold, SPEW argues that controllable conditions were responsible for the development of lead poisoning, and WIDC agrees with SPEW (i.e. WIDC would also contend that controllable conditions were responsible).

I hope that helps!

Although we could consider that "WIDC also agrees that controllable conditions in such factories were responsible for the development of lead poisoning", what makes it possible to say that the following choice in #1 should be eliminated?

(C) WIDC believed that lead poisoning in white lead factories could be avoided by controlling conditions there, whereas WTUL believed that lead poisoning in such factories could not be avoided no matter how stringently safety regulations were enforced.
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I appreciate your comments a lot, but one point is confusing...

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Hi Gmatninja, Gmatninja2,
I have a query regarding understanding of words - contend and concur in this passage.
Contend means to argue and concur means to be in harmony with.
My query is regarding part in bold, if SPEW opposes initial proposal of home secretary that women should be stopped from working in lead factories due to high chance of illness,
How can concur we place another contrasting word concur so adjacent to WIDC which in fact also opposes home secretary's proposal?
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SPEW contended, and WIDC concurred, that controllable conditions in such factories were responsible for the development of lead poisoning.
In this context, "concur" means to "agree" and "content" means to "argue" or "assert" (as in, to assert something as a position in an argument).

For example, Mike contends that going to the gym is a waste of time, and Charles concurs. In other words, Mike argues that going to the gym is a waste of time, and Charles agrees with Mike (i.e. Charles would also contend that going to the gym is a waste of time).

Referring to the part in bold, SPEW argues that controllable conditions were responsible for the development of lead poisoning, and WIDC agrees with SPEW (i.e. WIDC would also contend that controllable conditions were responsible).

I hope that helps!

Although we could consider that "WIDC also agrees that controllable conditions in such factories were responsible for the development of lead poisoning", what makes it possible to say that the following choice in #1 should be eliminated?

(C) WIDC believed that lead poisoning in white lead factories could be avoided by controlling conditions there, whereas WTUL believed that lead poisoning in such factories could not be avoided no matter how stringently safety regulations were enforced.
You're right that the bit about WIDC in (C) is fine.

The issue with this answer choice is the part about WTUL. The WTUL's thoughts are explained in the last sentence of the passage: "However, the Women's Trade Union League (WTUL)[...] supported the eventually enacted proposal, in part because safety regulations were generally not being enforced in white lead factories, where there were no unions (and little prospect of any) to pressure employers to comply with safety regulations."

So, the WTUL doesn't think that poisoning could not be avoided even if safety regulations were enforced, as stated in (C). WTUL just thinks that safety regulations AREN'T being enforced, and there isn't any way to make them be enforced. It's possible that the WTUL thinks that the regulations are amazing and would absolutely prevent poisoning -- but that doesn't really matter if those regulations aren't actually enforced.

We can eliminate (C) because of the part about the WTUL.

I hope that helps!
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Im going to attempt to write my thoughts while doing this, and do it untimed. then ill check to see if my logic was sound.

The passage suggests that WIDC differed from WTUL in which of the following ways?

WIDC oppsed proposal. wtul supported it.
A. i dont think WIDC believes the regulations are adequate, since they acknoledge them. and thats not stated.
b. it says nothing about WIDC stance on unions success.
c. keep. seems interesting, first half seems right, but does WTUL believe that lead can not be avoided? simply because its not enforced? seems inferable.
D. eliminate. widc is not concerned with what this choice is saying.
e. This is totally right, nothing in question. lines up with the text.

E

Which of the following, if true, would most clearly support the contention attributed to SPEW in the highlighted text?
A. this seems to make sense at first
b. umm doesnt seem to work, given we dont know much about other factories.
c. seems to introduce an irrelevant variable, household stuff, when the argument is address controllable conditions.
d. this goes against, and would strengthen the idea that current regulations are performing their stated purpose.
e. oos

picked A

The passage is primarily concerned with


a. it does present various groups views, but is it presenting their views of the motivies of those creating legistlation? i dont think so.
b. this seems to make sense at first, since we know WTUL and WIDC have their differences.
c. it doesnt seem to be tracing a process, more certain groups views. eleiminate
d. is doesnt really discuss the groups tactics, just their views on the situations. eliminate.
e. i dont really view this as an evaluation. cant really explain why, but it doesnt seem to be doing this

pick b

CONCLUSION AND CHECK

okay it looks like i got 100% this took 14 and a half minutes to answer and write, so im a bit over on time, but i fully understood the questions and the passages.
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