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At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls’ high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are below the poverty level.


(A) where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are

(B) where they have 49 percent of the household incomes

(C) where 49 percent of the household incomes are

(D) which has 49 percent of the household incomes

(E) in which 49 percent of them have household incomes

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Originally posted by RaviChandra on 12 Mar 2010, 03:34.
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At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls’ high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are below the poverty level.

(A) where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are
(B) where they have 49 percent of the household incomes
(C) where 49 percent of the household incomes are
(D) which has 49 percent of the household incomes
(E) in which 49 percent of them have household incomes

Doesent C changethe meaning of the sentence? ---> 49% 0f household incomes vs 49% of households with income. A uses them to clarify still its incorrect why?


The word community has two meanings/contexts:
(1) a group of people residing at the same place --> physical
E.g., the Asian community

(2) a group of people sharing same status, ideas, etc --> conceptual
E.g., the poor

Now, this context decides which word to use: "where" or "which"

(1) demands 'where' and (2) demands 'which or in which'

In the question it is clear that the statement falls in the first category (decided by "At Shiprock" at the beginning of the sentence) and hence we need to use 'where'. Once this is decided, words like 'they', 'them', etc., are irrelevant/wrong. Hence C is the only one that stands.
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150. At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls’ high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are below the poverty level.
(A) where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are
(B) where they have 49 percent of the household incomes
(C) where 49 percent of the household incomes are
(D) which has 49 percent of the household incomes
(E) in which 49 percent of them have household incomes

Please Explain ur answers.


I think the answer is C.

Use each answer in the sentence and see if it makes sense.

A. At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls’ high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are below the poverty level. -- The issue here is the "them". Who is "them"? It has no clear antecedent.

B. At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls’ high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where they have 49 percent of the household incomes below the poverty level. -- Again, the "they" doesn't have a really clear antecedent. The noun before "they" is "community", which is singular - it doesn't really work. In addition, saying that they "HAVE 49% of THE household incomes below the poverty level" makes it sound like this community has 49% of all household incomes below the poverty level... in their state. Or the world. Or the universe.

C. At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls’ high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where 49 percent of the household incomes are below the poverty level. -- This makes sense. In this community, 49% of the households report an income below the poverty level.

D. At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls’ high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community which has 49 percent of the household incomes below the poverty level. -- Again, stating that the community "HAS 49% of the THE household incomes" makes it sound like the community is being compared to a larger group, out of which it has 49% of household incomes below the poverty level... as opposed to simply indicating that within the community, this statistic is true.

E. At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls’ high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community in which 49 percent of them have household incomes below the poverty level. -- This one almost makes good sense, but again, to whom does that "them" refer?
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i think sometimes it is better not to stick to some specific usage !!
its very hard to single out that GMAC will rule out a question only on the basis of whether "where" or "in which" can or cannot refer to "community" .i feel that both can refer to "community"
the larger picture is however much simpler ---> all the options other than C and D have pronouns such as "them" ,"they" when in fact u dont have a noun "people" in the whole sentence !!
D is wrong for incorrect usage of "which" hence C is the answer

(A) where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are
(B) where they have 49 percent of the household incomes
(C) where 49 percent of the household incomes are
(D) which has 49 percent of the household incomes
(E) in which 49 percent of them have household incomes




I was confused between C and D. Here, which or where refers to community or to Shiprock? If it does refer to Shiprock, then Where wins hands down.
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I was confused between C and D. Here, which or where refers to community or to Shiprock? If it does refer to Shiprock, then Where wins hands down.


usage of "which" is wrong in D .u cannot use "which" as is done in D
also both "which" and "where" intends to refer to "community"------>it is the community that can have an average house hold income
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At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls’ high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are below the poverty level.

(A) where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are --> No clear antecedent for "them"
(B) where they have 49 percent of the household incomes --> same issue. What is "they" referring to?
(C) where 49 percent of the household incomes are --> Correct answer. Community+where or location+where

This is the community where rich people live.
This is the society where I live.

(D) which has 49 percent of the household incomes --> incorrect. Plug in the answer -

At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls’ high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community which has 49 percent of the household incomes below the poverty level.

Implies that community has household incomes below poverty level. Community doesn't have household incomes below the poverty level.It's the residents who have incomes below poverty level. A quick fix of this would be - community + in which.

(E) in which 49 percent of them have household incomes --> this fixes the problem (in which),but has "them".No antecedent for them.
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AM I the only one that is willing to know whether income is uncountable? :)
I know a plural form "incomes" exist, but income is income :)
In addition to this: community - A group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common (OXFORD DICTIONARY)
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com·mu·ni·ty /kəˈmyo͞onədē/
noun
a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common.

Because of this, as per GMAT rules, WHERE cannot be used in this context.

Since the source is not specified, I believe it was not created by GMAC's nor by any other reputable gmat prep companies. Thus, this question is not good for practice :)
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Because of this, as per GMAT rules, WHERE cannot be used in this context.


Unfortunately, GMAT is very fickle.

Check this problem

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Many population studies have linked a high-salt diet to high rates of hypertension and shown that in societies where they consume little salt, their blood pressure typically does not rise with age.

(A) shown that in societies where they consume little salt, their

(B) shown that in societies that have consumed little salt, their

(C) shown that in societies where little salt is consumed,

(D) they showed that in societies where little salt is consumed,

(E) they showed that in societies where they consume little salt, their

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At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls??? high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are below the poverty level.

(A) where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are

(B) where they have 49 percent of the household incomes

(C) where 49 percent of the household incomes are

(D) which has 49 percent of the household incomes

(E) in which 49 percent of them have household incomes


I have a doubt whether percentage is singular or plural? please clarify .That was the only reason i have eliminated this option.

At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls??? high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where 49 percent of the household incomes are/is :hurt: below the poverty level
Please clarify.
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At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls??? high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are below the poverty level.

(A) where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are

(B) where they have 49 percent of the household incomes

(C) where 49 percent of the household incomes are

(D) which has 49 percent of the household incomes

(E) in which 49 percent of them have household incomes


I have a doubt whether percentage is singular or plural? please clarify .That was the only reason i have eliminated this option.

At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls??? high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where 49 percent of the household incomes are/is :hurt: below the poverty level
Please clarify.


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Q: Please tell me which verb is correct in this sentence: “Ninety percent of the team is/are men.” The plural “are” sounds correct, but “team” is singular.

A: “Ninety percent of the team are men.” Here’s why.

Percent” is used with both singular and plural verbs. It usually takes a plural verb when followed by “of” plus a plural noun, and takes a singular verb when followed by “of” plus a singular noun.

Example: “Sixty percent of the cookies were eaten, but only twenty percent of the milk was drunk.”

With original sentence, the question is whether the noun “team” should be treated as singular or plural. This isn’t a black-and-white question!


“Team” is a collective noun: a singular noun that stands for a number of people or things that form a group.

A collective noun takes either a singular or a plural verb, depending on whether you’re talking about the group as a unit (singular) or the individuals (plural).

In this case, the tip-off that we’re talking about individuals is the word “men,” a plural noun.

So we’re talking here about the players who make up the team, not the group as a single unit. This calls for a plural verb: “Ninety percent of the team are men.”

A similar case can be made for the noun “band.” Like “team,” it’s a singular collective noun. But we would say, “Fifty percent of the band are vocalists.”

The singular verb “is” would be dissonant here because the plural “vocalists” indicates that we’re talking about the members of the band, not the group as a whole.

On the other hand, if we’re talking about the group as a single unit, we use a singular verb: “The team [or band] is playing in Pittsburgh.”

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My doubt:

If we take team as the subject then the verb must be a singular right ! But here the verb is plural because {we have the percentage of household incomes} the noun is plural.
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Usage of Where vs Which in this question
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I am still confused about why which has not been taken and why where has been chosen
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I am still confused about why which has not been taken and why where has been chosen

Deciding between (C) and (D) is not simply a matter of "which" vs "where". There are other issues with (D), as described in this post and this post.

Here's a counter-example to illustrate the problem with (D):

    "In New Mexico, one million households have incomes below the poverty level. The community of Shiprock has 49% of those households." - The community has households, not household incomes.

Back to the official question: the community itself does not HAVE household incomes; instead, the community has households -- and those households have household incomes. Also, the community does not HAVE 49% of some larger group of households with incomes below the poverty level.

(C) avoids these issues and conveys the correct meaning: 49% OF the household incomes in Shiprock are below the poverty level.

I hope this helps!
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