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A Japanese noun is pronounced the same way whether it is singular or plural, so to indicate plurality, speakers use number words paired with special endings known as counters. The phrase three fish could be rendered three (small animal)-count fish. Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude. The regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker may dictate which counter to use. However, many speakers across the country apply certain counters more broadly than is traditional: even whales might be described using the small animal counter, as if saying number animal-count fish.

Which of the following can be most logically inferred on the basis of the information in the passage?


(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south.

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant.

(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter.

(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant.

(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage.



Let's go one option at a time since the stimulus just gives us the premise. There's no argument. Our job is to figure out which of the following can be inferred.

(A) It is said that without these counters, a phrase can be considered grammatically unsound and rude. But can people understand them? Sure. Using different counters wouldn't mean someone would face difficulty in deciphering what the other person means. A is out.
(B) The usage of a counter depends on age, location and occupation. It's possible that all elderly people share the same counter. It's also possible that none of them too. We cannot infer B. Throw it out the window.
(C) This can be inferred. Sure, that person can be offended or turn out to be a grammar nazi, but they would still understand the intended meaning. Let's hold on to this option.
(D) Disapproval at the restaurant? Isn't this too specific? It may be perceived as rude. We don't know how likely is it to happen. D isn't the right choice.
(E) Bigger cities have a more diverse set of occupations, and that's one factor that defines the usage of a counter. So, again, this cannot be inferred.

Option C is the right choice.
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IMO D

(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south.--We cant say this for sure.The passage does say that many speakers apply counters more broadly than is traditional, but that does not mean that people from different regions will have trouble understanding each other.

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant.-- The passage says that counter usage is dictated by age but we cannot say that cannot infer that few elderly people will use same counter or many.

(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter.-- cannot be inferred. OUt of context.

(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant. - This is a must be true. The passage says that if someone does not use correct counter it is considered rude.
As this new information is inline with the context of the passage we can very well bring new information for an inference question.


(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage.-- cannot be inferred
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(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south.
not mentioned . grammatically unsound and rude,yes .trouble understanding ,no. incorrect

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant.
since age may dictate which counter to use. not entirely sure about this


(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter.
correct. although considered rude,yet comprehensible. furthermore example of whale with animal counter tells about the use of different counter.

(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant.
no such info regarding disapproval is given

(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage.
incorrect age and occupation may cause difference

IMO C
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Answer is C

(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south. Can't infer this.

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant. can't infer this

(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter. Correct. It goes :"Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude." It's grammatically unsound and rude, but one can understand it.

(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant. Can't infer this

(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage. Can't infer this
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(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south. given The regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker may dictate which counter to use

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant. same as A

(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter. reason : A Japanese noun is pronounced the same way whether it is singular or plural Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude

(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant.
is not relevant to argument

(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage. same as A

OPTION C is correct


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A Japanese noun is pronounced the same way whether it is singular or plural, so to indicate plurality, speakers use number words paired with special endings known as counters. The phrase three fish could be rendered three (small animal)-count fish. Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude. The regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker may dictate which counter to use. However, many speakers across the country apply certain counters more broadly than is traditional: even whales might be described using the small animal counter, as if saying number animal-count fish.

Which of the following can be most logically inferred on the basis of the information in the passage?


(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south.

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant.

(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter.

(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant.

(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage.

 


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Correct answer: Choice C

This is an inference question. So the answer should be 100% true

(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south. - Wrong- Does not have to be 100% true

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant.
- Wrong- Does not have to be 100% true

(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter. - Correct answer.
The statements in the argument say: without counters, it will be ungrammatical and may be considered rude. Also, the noun is the same irrespective of singular or plural. hence I think, the meaning can definitely be grasped

(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant. - Wrong- The argument says "MAY" be met with disapproval not 100%

(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage. - Wrong- Does not have to be 100% true
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I THINK ANSWER IS D
if non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely to misjudge plural vs singular and it become difficult for restaurant to understand its numbar of fish for your order
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A Japanese noun is pronounced the same way whether it is singular or plural, so to indicate plurality, speakers use number words paired with special endings known as counters. The phrase three fish could be rendered three (small animal)-count fish. Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude. The regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker may dictate which counter to use. However, many speakers across the country apply certain counters more broadly than is traditional: even whales might be described using the small animal counter, as if saying number animal-count fish.

(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter.

Since the argument mentions that using a phrase without these counters is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude, means that a Japanese person will still understand it, but will not appreciate it incase a different counter is used, which is what the statement C mentions.
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A Japanese noun is pronounced the same way whether it is singular or plural, so to indicate plurality, speakers use number words paired with special endings known as counters. The phrase three fish could be rendered three (small animal)-count fish. Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude. The regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker may dictate which counter to use. However, many speakers across the country apply certain counters more broadly than is traditional: even whales might be described using the small animal counter, as if saying number animal-count fish.

Which of the following can be most logically inferred on the basis of the information in the passage?


(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south.

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant.

(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter.

(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant.

(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage.

 


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(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south: many speakers across the country apply certain counters more broadly than is traditional & Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude. Eliminate

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant: any speakers across the country apply certain counters more broadly than is traditional. Correctly explain

(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter: Not mentioned in argument. Eliminate

(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant: It may be consider as a rude but not such difficulty as mention in option. Eliminate

(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage: Can't say. May or may not be, can't conclude from argument. Eliminate

Hence B is the answer
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A Japanese noun is pronounced the same way whether it is singular or plural, so to indicate plurality, speakers use number words paired with special endings known as counters. The phrase three fish could be rendered three (small animal)-count fish. Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude. The regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker may dictate which counter to use. However, many speakers across the country apply certain counters more broadly than is traditional: even whales might be described using the small animal counter, as if saying number animal-count fish.

Which of the following can be most logically inferred on the basis of the information in the passage?


Quote:
(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south.

The statement contradicts " However, many speakers across the country apply certain counters more broadly than is traditional"
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(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant.

The statement contradicts the sentence " The regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker may dictate which counter to use."
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(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter.

Even if there may be many counter counters for the same thing, a Japanese persons would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase since it is stated in the argument, "The regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker may dictate which counter to use. However, many speakers across the country apply certain counters more broadly than is traditional"
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(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant.

A non-native speaker may have trouble understanding and using a counter but it can not be concluded that he would be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant. He may use body language instead.
Incorrect

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(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage.

A major city having inhabitants from across the World, will have more variations in usage of the counters than a smaller city
Incorrect

IMO C
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(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south.may not have any problem

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant.may be

(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter.without counter may be an issue

(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant.out of scope

(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage.correct
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The correct answer is C
Choice A is wrong because the argument claims that many people across the country use the same counter
Choice B is wrong because the argument gives no such information on how an elder and a younger would use the counter
Choice C is correct because if people across country use other counters and not traditional but the japanese can still understand the meaning
Choice D is tempting but could be true and could be not
Choice E is wrong because the argument gives no information on the difference between smaller and lager cities on how they use the counters

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The answer is C. Edited for correct OA. OE is already posted.

Originally posted by Kushchokhani on 14 Jul 2022, 12:50.
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(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south.
two people from two different areas, use different counters, and both may use the same counter broadly than traditional, but nothing in the passage said that if one use another counter, another person from another region cannot understand it, Wrong answer

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant.
This is the correct answer. The age of the speaker may dictate which counter to use. so the counters used by an elderly person may not be the same as those when he was younger
(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter.
the passage said that Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude, we cannot say from this that the meaning could be grasped nor couldn't be grasped, Wrong answer
(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant.
the passage said that a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude, but rude does not necessarily lead to being met with disapproval, Wrong answer
(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage.
variations in counter usage depend on regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker,
just because Tokyo has tens of millions of inhabitants, does not guarantee that we'll have a diversity of age dialect, ... more likely than any other region, Wrong answer
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A Japanese noun is pronounced the same way whether it is singular or plural, so to indicate plurality, speakers use number words paired with special endings known as counters. The phrase three fish could be rendered three (small animal)-count fish. Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude. The regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker may dictate which counter to use. However, many speakers across the country apply certain counters more broadly than is traditional: even whales might be described using the small animal counter, as if saying number animal-count fish.

Which of the following can be most logically inferred on the basis of the information in the passage?


(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south.

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant.

(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter.

(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant.

(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage.

 


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Inference question; one of the following must logically follow from the above statements.

(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south.
INCORRECT: This cannot be inferred from the given statements.

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant.
INCORRECT: This may be true but not must be true

(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter.
CORRECT: This logically follows from the statements. From the statements: "Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude. The regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker may dictate which counter to use. However, many speakers across the country apply certain counters more broadly than is traditional.." we see that although without the counters the phrase is considered ungrammatical and perceived as rude but for it to be rude, it may very well be understandable.

(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant.
INCORRECT This may be true but not must be true

(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage.
INCORRECT Again this may be true but not must be true.
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[quote="Bunuel"]A Japanese noun is pronounced the same way whether it is singular or plural, so to indicate plurality, speakers use number words paired with special endings known as counters. The phrase three fish could be rendered three (small animal)-count fish. Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude. The regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker may dictate which counter to use. However, many speakers across the country apply certain counters more broadly than is traditional: even whales might be described using the small animal counter, as if saying number animal-count fish.

Which of the following can be most logically inferred on the basis of the information in the passage?


(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south.
-This is out of scope.From the context given we cannot conclude that people from different region would have trouble in understanding someone from another region.

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant.
-This is out of scope.We cannot conclude this based on the context given
(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter.
-This is the correct option. Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude.
from this we can conclude that the meaning of a phrase is still understandable if counter is not used or if a different counter is used.
(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant.
-This is out of scope
(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage.
-This is out of scope and cannot be concluded
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quote="Bunuel"]A Japanese noun is pronounced the same way whether it is singular or plural, so to indicate plurality, speakers use number words paired with special endings known as counters. The phrase three fish could be rendered three (small animal)-count fish. Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude. The regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker may dictate which counter to use. However, many speakers across the country apply certain counters more broadly than is traditional: even whales might be described using the small animal counter, as if saying number animal-count fish.

Which of the following can be most logically inferred on the basis of the information in the passage?[/quote]

Type: Inference
We need to select an answer that is proven by the information in the stimuli.

(A) A person from Hokkaido, the most northerly of the main islands of Japan, would have trouble understanding someone from Okinawa, located over a thousand miles to the south. -INCORRECT
The argument states nothing about "trouble understanding" when speakers across the country may apply counters more broadly than is traditional.

(B) Few elderly speakers would use the same counter as younger speakers to refer to an animal such as an elephant. - INCORRECT
The regional dialect, age, or even occupation of the speaker may dictate which counter to use. : we cannot say for sure that the same counter can be used by speakers of two different age groups

(C) A Japanese person would probably grasp the meaning of a phrase with or without a counter, even if that person would use a different counter. - INCORRECT
This is along the lines of option A - we do not know whether grasping the meaning could vary depending on different counters or no counters.

(D) A non-native speaker who did not know to use a counter would likely be met with disapproval when placing an order for two fish skewers at a restaurant.- CORRECT
The above can be inferred from "Without these counters, a phrase is considered grammatically unsound and may be perceived as rude."
(because the option does not specifically speak about Japan or non-native speakers in Japan, I was hesitant with this option)

(E) A major city such as Tokyo, with tens of millions of inhabitants, would be less likely than a smaller city to see regional variations in counter usage. - INCORRECT
No info provided about the extent of variation
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