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GMAT FORMAT IS CHANGING APRIL 16, 2018 - it will be 30 minutes shorter

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Veritas Prep has told me that their tests have been updated as well (yet to try for myself though).


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Quite early to ask but here is my question : Earlier I used to score 18-22 questions right in quant and around 24-27 questions right in verbal.
I used to get scores between 650-700. I know it is quite early to ask and the score completely depends upon the level of question but just curious to know in range how many right/wrong question we should expect for a score of 700? TIA
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Quite early to ask but here is my question : Earlier I used to score 18-22 questions right in quant and around 24-27 questions right in verbal.
I used to get scores between 650-700. I know it is quite early to ask and the score completely depends upon the level of question but just curious to know in range how many right/wrong question we should expect for a score of 700? TIA


Hey amitpandey25 ,

You need to understand that GMAT scoring doesn't depend on the number of questions you are getting right or wrong but it depends on the how many difficult level questions are right.

So, you can see big variations in your two scores with same number of incorrect questions if you get difficult questions right in the one and wrong in another.

I hope that makes sense.

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After a surfeit of hype, anticipation and speculation following the GMAC's last-minute announcement of its release, the updated, 23-minute shorter GMAT debuts tomorrow (4/16/18) in Pearson Vue testing centers worldwide.

In my opinion, these welcome changes should make for an easier, fairer GMAT exam.

To Recap:

**The Quant Section will be reduced from 75 minutes, 37 questions and 9 experimental questions to 62 minutes, 31 questions and 3 experimentals.**

**The Verbal section will be reduced from 75 minutes, 41 questions and 11 experimental questions to 65 minutes, 36 questions and 6 experimentals.**


The Integrated Reasoning section (30 minutes, 12 questions, 3 experimentals) and Analytical Writing Assessment (30 minutes, 1 question) will remain untouched.

**We have reason to believe that the balance/frequency of question types has also changed on the Verbal section only. On average, it has gone from 17 Sentence Corrections (SC), 13 Reading Comprehension (RC) and 11 Critical Reasoning (CR) to 13-14 RC, 12-13 SC and 9-10 CR.**

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On Quant, the relative frequency of each question type has stayed roughly the same: there are still slightly more Problem Solving questions than Data Sufficiencies. Expect about 17 Problem Solving and about 14 Data Sufficiencies among your 31 Quant questions.

It appears that the official GMATPrep software will NOT be updated with these changes in time for the new exam's official release (though GMAC has promised an updated version by April 30).

Looking forward to reading some debriefs and ESRs here on GMAT Club--though I wonder whether/when any test-takers will actually bother to accurately count how many questions they are served of each type. If you ask the people at GMAC, then they will tell you that the precise number of question types varies on each GMAT.

At least we will able to run a definitive "question-type count" on the Verbal section of the GMATPrep software, once it's finally updated. We already have confirmation, for example, that there are still 4 Reading Comprehension passages.

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Thanks Brian and others for your inputs regarding the changes. To be honest, this was not expected from GMAC. They should have released GMAT Prep by now. I have GMAT scheduled 1st week of May, and I cannot move it out because all test centers are booked up to July in the city I live.

My point being that they could have implemented this change in a better way rather than keeping all this suspense about new GMAT Prep exams. I agree that this change will be helpful to future candidates. But for those appearing in next few days, it is what it is, I hope I do well and I wish everyone the same.
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Manhattan GMAT Cat's are now updated.
I had an amazing experience with the shorter version of the test.

1. I was able to focus more.(This is so true)
2.Test flew, I swear.
3.I gave attention to first 10 question :) Took me around 28 minutes for verbal and around 27 for Quant.

Ended up with 710 highest ever. I was scoring close to 640-660 in my last 3 MCAT's :) :)
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4 RCs,less of CRs..quant was not difficult I'd say,though verbal was.

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4 RCs,less of CRs..quant was not difficult I'd say,though verbal was.

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4 RC passages! I knew it. :cool: Kudos for sharing, akshhayleekha!

GMAC also slightly altered the format of its ESRs along with the new, shorter test. Anyone who has a past ESR on file for a test during the last 5 years can re-download his/her ESR in the new format.

The changes are minor: notice the pink hue and the new x-axis on the Percent Correct / Average Difficulty charts, which no longer indicates the question numbers.

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4 Rc’s, less Cr (in total - verbal was more difficult - down from 44-41 in gmatprep to 37. SC was almost entirely about meaning), quant was also more difficult (from q50-49 in gmatprep to q45) and IR was also very difficult (they even changed the calculator there - it is now much more massive.
I wont be worrying since i might just got a harder than usual test (its not my first attempt and not even my second attempt , so i know what it supposed to be like).
But i would take a prep test (even mpre than once) for time management. It can be a quiet unpleasant experience to try figuring out if you are ok with timing during your test, which is different than usual.

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On Quant, it's the exact same balance of question types, only shorter--so of course it's easier. However, "easier" is a relative concept, and on the GMAT your overall composite score /percentile is directly related to the performance of your peers, so if it's easier or even harder for everyone, then your composite score should theoretically stay the same. Yet we must also keep in mind that GMAT composite percentiles are averaged over the last 3 years, so the vast majority of this year's scoring curve will be determined by the last 3 years of the old test--which suggests that some GMAT score inflation or deflation thanks to the new test format is indeed possible!

On Verbal, the issue of difficulty is somewhat more complicated: the balance/frequency of question types has (apparently) changed. We all know that RCs tend to take longer than SCs, so the fact that RCs may have supplanted SCs as the most common Verbal question type (and you still have to read 4 RC passages!) does have some pacing implications:

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Does this mean that the GMAT just got easier, or harder? That's a subjective question, but in my opinion it became easier overall--especially on Quant, where the test is still exactly the same--except shorter and with fewer experimental questions. On Verbal, we must now navigate through a higher proportion of RC questions, but the relative increase in RCs is counteracted by the shorter duration of the test, the removal of 5 experimental questions, and--most importantly--the removal of several SCs, which is likely to benefit non-native GMAT test-takers.

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On Quant, it's the exact same balance of test content, only shorter--so of course it's easier.

On Verbal, the issue is somewhat more complicated by the fact that the balance of questions has apparently changed:


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So does this imply for verbal that it could be perceived as easier or harder depending on your strengths within the verbal section? For example, if SC was your weakest link and you were more comfortable with RC and CR, then it would seem that verbal could possibly seem “easier”. And vice versa.

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On Quant, it's the exact same balance of test content, only shorter--so of course it's easier.

On Verbal, the issue is somewhat more complicated by the fact that the balance of questions has apparently changed:

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So does this imply for verbal that it could be perceived as easier or harder depending on your strengths within the verbal section? For example, if SC was your weakest link and you were more comfortable with RC and CR, then it would seem that verbal could possibly seem “easier”. And vice versa.

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Yes, that's true! Your opinion of whether the difficulty level of the new Verbal section has changed might depend on your relative strengths in each question type (RC, SC, CR).

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So does this imply for verbal that it could be perceived as easier or harder depending on your strengths within the verbal section? For example, if SC was your weakest link and you were more comfortable with RC and CR, then it would seem that verbal could possibly seem “easier”. And vice versa.

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For what it's worth, I shouted with joy when I read there may be less SC and more RC. I'm a native speaker that unfortunately relies on colloquialisms too much. RC and CR are far easier for me. Changes in verbal seems like it would change person to person.

I can't wait to take this test again...the anticipation is killing me...
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do we know if the new GMAT prep tests will have the same questions as the current GMAT prep tests? or is the material in the updated prep tests will be completely new?
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do we know if the new GMAT prep tests will have the same questions as the current GMAT prep tests? or is the material in the updated prep tests will be completely new?

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We don't know for sure yet, but chances are that the new GMATPrep software will consist of the same pool of questions, with maybe a few additions/subtractions here and there.

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Got done with the test a few hours back. Scored a 750 (Q50 V41). It felt really similar to my last test. I am naturally good at SCs and I take more time than I should for RCs, so a few large (really large with contrived questions) threw me off. More details in a few hours.
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