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GMAT IS CHANGING APRIL 16, 2018 - it will be 30 minutes shorter

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Just read about the shorter version with 30 minutes shaved off the test.
Any comments??
What about the full length mock tests and the spacing between sections?

Will this affect our scores for good or bad??


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Maybe I'm missing something here...but this seems like excellent news overall.

You're essentially going to pace your per-question time the same. It's not a good strategy to try and guess experimental questions, so you're giving the same effort per question as you were before. The difference here is you will have more energy at the end of sections that you did before. I always struggled on the last 5 questions to stay conscious. Fatigue is now less of an issue.

What am I missing here?

Hi jsheppa,

I agree--it is excellent news! A shorter GMAT with fewer questions is an easier GMAT, no matter which way you slice it--especially if you have issues with test fatigue, as many test-takers do. An added bonus is the significantly reduced presence of experimental questions (nearly 50% fewer--from 25% to 13% of all questions), which makes the updated GMAT a fairer test overall.

Kudos to the GMAC for making the test more user-friendly, so to speak. With regard to "pretest/unscored" questions, it will soon compare much more favorably to the GRE, which has 20% experimental questions (1 unscored section out of 5 total).

UPDATE: According to the GMAC website, the GMATPrep software should be updated with these changes "no later than April 30th," 2 weeks after the changes go into effect on the real GMAT.

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There is a typo:
You meant to write 62*60/31 = 120 seconds. But you typed 61*60/32. But apart from that great thread to create the awareness.Thanks.
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Yup, definitely makes the final score less dependent on luck with these changes! I think we will see less variation in scores for candidates who test multiple times, especially if the tests are close together. The current margin of error/variation was said to be about +/- 30, I think that will now decrease. On the upside, it's less of a slog, but does require more careful timing, because if you go over time on one question, you have less questions to make up that time

We may also see less 760+ scores because there will be less likelyhood of someone scoring very highly because they had a "good run" on the test. Before, if someone who was 760+ level and underscored significantly (bad/unlucky day), they would likely resit to get their "true" level. So the 760+ scorers would be made up of true 760+ people, plus those at the 740/750 level who had a lucky day with the exam. We should get less of the latter cases now.

Personally I think they should also reduce the number of experimentals on the IR section - 4/12 is a huge number. In my first test, my concentration was absolutely shot by the time I got to the IR, I guessed a bunch of answers but still got 8. Not at all indicative of how I performed! Second time, felt much better and found the questions easier - but only got 6. I'd clearly got lucky in my first test and got only experimental questions wrong, and unlucky in the second. With just 12 questions and only 8 of them marked, the IR scores can vary a lot
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For me, there is a huge phycological advantage with this change, of course in addition to fatigue. Lots of test takers will feel down when they get a hard/weird experimental question as they will struggle solving it, and as a result it will affect their performance and confidence in the upcoming questions. On the other hand, when they get an easy experimental question, some people will think they didn’t solve the previous questions correctly, which again will affect their confidence level.

Some of the Experimental questions tend to be too hard and some test takers will try to solve them. Hard questions usually consume more time than the average question. So less hard/weird questions will save the test takers some valuable time IMO.

My exam was supposed to be on 4th of April but I already rescheduled it to 7th of May which somehow I feel lucky that I did with the recent changes.


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Personally I think they should also reduce the number of experimentals on the IR section - 4/12 is a huge number. In my first test, my concentration was absolutely shot by the time I got to the IR, I guessed a bunch of answers but still got 8. Not at all indicative of how I performed! Second time, felt much better and found the questions easier - but only got 6. I'd clearly got lucky in my first test and got only experimental questions wrong, and unlucky in the second. With just 12 questions and only 8 of them marked, the IR scores can vary a lot

Hi tinyinthedesert, just to clarify, there are only 3 experimentals on the IR section. That being said, it is still a relatively high proportion of experimentals (25%), especially in comparison to the updated Verbal and Quant sections. This helps explain why IR scores will tend to vary more than Quant, Verbal and AWA scores.

Another factor on the IR section, or course, is that all of the questions have multiple parts. 2 out of 3 choices correct doesn't get you any partial credit: it's either 100% correct, or it's wrong.

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Experimental questions will still be there its not that they have reduced it


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Can someone tell me what will be he split up for the number of RC, CR, SC questions??

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So, how does this change affect question timing/pacing approach?

I currently use the following, minutes remaining on left and questions finished on right:

For quant:
65 - 5
55 -10
45 - 15
35 -20
25 - 25
15 - 30
5 - 35

For Verbal:
60 - 8
45 - 16
30 - 24
15 -32

This works quite well for me on the current test. Can anyone provide a recommended question timing/pacing approach for this new shorter test? Thank you.
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I am considering this change a boon to my performance. In my GMAT 2nd attempt, I observed from my Enhanced Score Report that at the same difficulty level in the last set of questions, my performance degraded. This happens with me during the mocks also and I feel totally exhausted at the start of IR ( My Selection order always is Q-V-IR-AWA). Just keeping my fingers crossed. I was planning to retake the exam in a month. Now will plan it only after new prep tests come out so that I can develop some timing strategies.
So all the people who suffer from Test fatigue, cherish the change. Even if the changes are tough, stay positive, we will come through, perform our best and win.
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Just rescheduled my exam for 5/14. It was originally planned for 4/30. Hopefully that will give me enough time to do 1 GMATPrep exam under the new time simulation.

I'm really excited to see how I do in comparison to my first attempt (680). I think given more practice and less chance of fatigue, I should hit 700+.

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Wow I didn't know I'd face that many experimental questions in this current exam. It seems like the new version will be fine with still some experimental questions. My exam is tomorrow, but I'll take it anyway. Hope I can be one of the last testakers who crushes the oldie gmat

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Exam is scheduled for 19th. Would you recommend taking it a week early?
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Wow I didn't know I'd face that many experimental questions in this current exam. It seems like the new version will be fine with still some experimental questions. My exam is tomorrow, but I'll take it anyway. Hope I can be one of the last testakers who crushes the oldie gmat

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Hi megakee9,

Right. GMAC is removing 11 of the 23 experimental questions, which is enough to subtract 23 minutes from the test.

If we do some simple direct-proportion math, then we can conclude that on the real GMAT, you currently spend about 48 minutes answering questions that don't count toward your score. :|

Good luck tomorrow!!

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I usually track my time with an evenly distributed time table. Since I decided to take the GMAT again after my second try yesterday, I have adjusted the table to the new structure. Any suggestions on my time management, which was actually never an issue during the exam ;)
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I usually track my time with an evenly distributed time table. Since I decided to take the GMAT again after my second try yesterday, I have adjusted the table to the new structure. Any suggestions on my time management, which was actually never an issue during the exam ;)


How would one use this on the actual test? That's 16 time slots..... i am sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody can keep this in mind.
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I usually track my time with an evenly distributed time table. Since I decided to take the GMAT again after my second try yesterday, I have adjusted the table to the new structure. Any suggestions on my time management, which was actually never an issue during the exam ;)


How would one use this on the actual test? That's 16 time slots..... i am sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody can keep this in mind.


oh, I just add 5 in the right column (5 questions per row) and subtract 10 min in the LHS column for Q and 9 min for V. Gives you 2 min for each Q question and 1,8 min for each V question (BTW: this is now more precise with the new number of questions). It's just a rough indication and it helped me during the test to keep track of serious time issues. Usually I write down these two tables at the very first beginning of the exam. Then, let's say I have reached question #16 in quant it means the clock should show me 32 more minutes.
As I said it just gave me a rough indication checking my timing within just a second to get an immediate idea whether I am far too slow.
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How about implementing this timing?

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Update: the GMAC says that the distribution of experimental questions is driven by the requirements of the exam (for example, if they need more DS questions, there could be an additional DS question in the experimental questions). They're saying that the algorithm takes content balance into account, so this should not impact test takers.
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