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GMAT IS CHANGING APRIL 16, 2018 - it will be 30 minutes shorter

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It is actually good news -- people won't be spending time and energy on questions that don't matter! :-) Scoring is unlikely to change as only pre-test questions will be reduced.
I hope GMAC reduces the number of RCs from 4 to 3 . :-)

Overall , recently GMAC has taken numerous steps(in order to make GMAT test taker friendly) such as ESR , score cancellation , section order selection and now this move. All thanks to the ETS and GRE .
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And I guess the practice tests will be able to forecast the ability better. Since the number of experimental questions will be reduced, which mostly are the reason for +-30 fluctuation range that we keep in mind after our mock scores.
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Maxximus wrote:
Thanks for the input.

That's why, I said "approximately the same", unlike the official page that says

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...so the average time per question in each section has not changed



Again, thanks for the explanation. It helps.

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- Time available per quant/verbal question remains approximately the same
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Quant

earlier 75x60/37 = 121.62
now 61x60/32 = 120 seconds

so 1.62 seconds less per question in quant

Verbal

earlier 75/41 = 109.75 seconds
now 65x60/36 = 108.33 seconds

so 1.42 seconds less per question in verbal


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haha sorry for being so picky :D but yes 1.x second wouldn't matter
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Hello Expert,
What do you think, would it be better to take the exam in current format or after 16th April ? My plan was to take the exam on 12th April.
I am already facing timing issues with Verbal section i.e. not able to finish last 2-3 questions consistently.
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Its official now :thumbup:
GMAC has announced changes to the structure of the GMAT exam that will result in the test timing getting shortened by 23 minutes. These changes will come into effect from April 16, 2018. So, anyone taking the exam after April 16, 2018 will benefit from taking a shorter exam.
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Quant Section: The number of questions has been reduced from 37 to 31 and consequently the time allotted to complete the section has also been shortened to 62 minutes. 6 questions lesser and 13 minutes lesser time.

Verbal Section: The number of questions has been reduced from 41 to 36 and consequently the time allotted to complete the section has also been reduced to 65 minutes. 5 questions lesser and 10 minutes lesser time.

Scoring and other aspects: No change whatsoever, either in the section scores or overall scores. IR and AWA continue to be administered without any change.
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As per Gmac
“The Quantitative and Verbal Reasoning sections are being shortened by only reducing the number of unscored items. Unscored questions (sometimes referred to as “research or pre-test questions”) are used by GMAC as part of the question development process before they become scored GMAT questions. A number of unscored questions will still remain in each section so that we can continue to research and pre-test our exam questions and ensure their quality before counting them as scored questions.”

This means it is tough to make educated guess now as the probability of a question being experimental has greatly reduced.

If Only the experimental questions are removed it’s like now every question affects ur score.

So the luck factor has reduced.
Don’t know if it is good or bad.

Let me know if I misunderstood this

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The number of experimental in each section doesn't change. There are still 11 in Verbal and 9 in Quant.
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anugrahs wrote:
As per Gmac
“The Quantitative and Verbal Reasoning sections are being shortened by only reducing the number of unscored items. Unscored questions (sometimes referred to as “research or pre-test questions”) are used by GMAC as part of the question development process before they become scored GMAT questions. A number of unscored questions will still remain in each section so that we can continue to research and pre-test our exam questions and ensure their quality before counting them as scored questions.”

This means it is tough to make educated guess now as the probability of a question being experimental has greatly reduced.

If Only the experimental questions are removed it’s like now every question affects ur score.

So the luck factor has reduced.
Don’t know if it is good or bad.

Let me know if I misunderstood this

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The number of experimental in each section doesn't change. There are still 11 in Verbal and 9 in Quant.


Nope this is what gmac says

The Quantitative and Verbal Reasoning sections are being shortened by only reducing the number of unscored items.

So there will be experimental questions
Verbal : 11 - 5 = 6
Quant : 9 - 6 = 3

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anugrahs wrote:
As per Gmac
“The Quantitative and Verbal Reasoning sections are being shortened by only reducing the number of unscored items. Unscored questions (sometimes referred to as “research or pre-test questions”) are used by GMAC as part of the question development process before they become scored GMAT questions. A number of unscored questions will still remain in each section so that we can continue to research and pre-test our exam questions and ensure their quality before counting them as scored questions.”

This means it is tough to make educated guess now as the probability of a question being experimental has greatly reduced.

If Only the experimental questions are removed it’s like now every question affects ur score.

So the luck factor has reduced.
Don’t know if it is good or bad.

Let me know if I misunderstood this

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The number of experimental in each section doesn't change. There are still 11 in Verbal and 9 in Quant.


Hi broall,
I found the below information in the link - https://www.mba.com/india/frequently-as ... -exam.aspx

No. The number of scored questions in each section, the average time per question, and the scoring algorithm will remain completely unchanged.

The Quantitative and Verbal Reasoning sections are being shortened by only reducing the number of unscored items.

So, once this change is in effect there will be only 3 experimental questions in Quant and 6 experimental questions in verbal.
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anugrahs wrote:
As per Gmac
“The Quantitative and Verbal Reasoning sections are being shortened by only reducing the number of unscored items. Unscored questions (sometimes referred to as “research or pre-test questions”) are used by GMAC as part of the question development process before they become scored GMAT questions. A number of unscored questions will still remain in each section so that we can continue to research and pre-test our exam questions and ensure their quality before counting them as scored questions.”

This means it is tough to make educated guess now as the probability of a question being experimental has greatly reduced.

If Only the experimental questions are removed it’s like now every question affects ur score.

So the luck factor has reduced.
Don’t know if it is good or bad.

Let me know if I misunderstood this

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The number of experimental in each section doesn't change. There are still 11 in Verbal and 9 in Quant.


Hi broall,
I found the below information in the link - https://www.mba.com/india/frequently-as ... -exam.aspx

No. The number of scored questions in each section, the average time per question, and the scoring algorithm will remain completely unchanged.

The Quantitative and Verbal Reasoning sections are being shortened by only reducing the number of unscored items.

So, once this change is in effect there will be only 3 experimental questions in Quant and 6 experimental questions in verbal.


Got it. GMAC just reduces the experimental questions in each section.
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Are GMAT Club & other companies updating their CAT layout? I'm about to start my prep and would prefer to practice in the same layout as the actual exam I will be facing


All test CAT system will change as GMAC updates new layout. However, I think that it will take time to know what is the new layout.
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Are GMAT Club & other companies updating their CAT layout? I'm about to start my prep and would prefer to practice in the same layout as the actual exam I will be facing


It will take few days to know exactly how the new format works and accordingly every test prep company and GC will change their pattern. You should start your preparation without thinking much about the pattern as of now. GMAT is a marathon and you will get enough time to understand the exam style in next few months.

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I agree that this decision was rather abrupt by the people at GMAC. Perhaps they finally decided that 25% experimental ("pretest") questions was far too many--especially now that the number of experimental questions on each section (11 in Verbal, 9 in Quant) is well known, thanks to ESR data and the work of the experts on this forum.

Of course, "30 minutes shorter" is a bit of a stretch, since 7 of those saved minutes are during the pre-exam time (GMAC calls it "additional time and content reduction across several non-exam screens at the test center (e.g. Tutorial, Section Instructions)."

Regardless, I think we can all agree that a new, 23-minute shorter GMAT--with significantly fewer experimental questions--is a good thing. If we take GMAC at their word here, then the number of Verbal experimental questions should be reduced to 6 from 11, and the number of Quant experimental questions should be reduced to only 3 from 6 (as others have already noted), which would reduce the overall percentage of experimentals from 25.6% to just 15.2%.

Since we are told the experimental ("pretest") questions don't count toward your score, and those are the only questions that are being removed, then this shouldn't affect student "raw to scaled" score conversions whatsoever--although we should wait to see some ESRs to confirm that. However, a shorter test could have the effect of raising scores across the board, thus driving down composite percentile scores even further.

I wouldn't count on GMAC to update the GMATPrep software to reflect these changes before April 16th, but you never know. As usual, the private GMAT prep companies will probably be the first to make these changes to their own imitation GMAT practice exams, and the GMAC will follow suit weeks or months later.

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This is semi frustrating to hear.

On one hand a shorter test means it's less of a marathon than it was before, but I am nervous that a shorter question set means there's less margin for error when it comes to scoring. Additionally, I plan to take the exam early in May... With this change coming so sudden, I may push that back to give me more time to adjust to the change.

I don't know how to feel about this to be honest. I know GMAC has probably thought through this in detail, but taking the exam so close to the big change makes me feel like I'm at a disadvantage.
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This is semi frustrating to hear.

On one hand a shorter test means it's less of a marathon than it was before, but I am nervous that a shorter question set means there's less margin for error when it comes to scoring. Additionally, I plan to take the exam early in May... With this change coming so sudden, I may push that back to give me more time to adjust to the change.

I don't know how to feel about this to be honest. I know GMAC has probably thought through this in detail, but taking the exam so close to the big change makes me feel like I'm at a disadvantage.

Hi dcamp0308,

To alleviate one of your concerns: there should be the exact same "margin for error" as before, because the number of counted/scored questions has not decreased.

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In my opinion, the test-takers who most deserve to be frustrated are those who are scheduled to take the GMAT before April 16th, and those who took the exam recently! However, at least GMAC is offering to waive the reschedule fee, as was done when the "Select Section Order" feature was implemented in July of 2017.

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Just so I'm understanding this correctly -- are the "research questions" solely for GMAC to develop future questions or are they to determine where the test taker stands as far as question difficulty goes? Because, if it's the latter, than that's where I can see how it might be a disadvantage to new test takers.

Also, wouldn't the reduction in test questions make skipping questions more dangerous? You'd be less likely to be skipping a research question that wouldn't adversely affect your score.
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Also, wouldn't the reduction in test questions make skipping questions more dangerous? You'd be less likely to be skipping a research question that wouldn't adversely affect your score.

Yes, but on the current version of the GMAT (25.6% experimentals), you are also twice as likely to spend way too much time on a question that is unscored than you are on the upcoming version of the test (15.2% experimentals).

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That's a fair point. Now we can pretty much assume that if you're mailing in a question, you can almost guarantee it's a "real" one.
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That's a fair point. Now we can pretty much assume that if you're mailing in a question, you can almost guarantee it's a "real" one.

Yes, that's right--especially on Quant, where over 90% of questions will soon be scored questions! (85% on Verbal)

On Quant, there will be a roughly 9 in 10 chance that any one question is counted.
On Verbal, there will be a roughly 8.5 in 10 chance that any one question is counted.

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Guys - Help needed. I actually scheduled my exam on April 11th and now wondering if I should reschedule. Not sure how to approach but this indeed frustrated me a little.
Does any one have any suggestion or comments on this?
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